users October 2024

users@lists.fedoraproject.org

64 participants
86 discussions

Strange DNF5 Functionality
by Stephen Morris 01 Nov '24

01 Nov '24

Hi, With the upgrade to DNF5, when I issue sudo dnf upgrade, for all package upgrades it lists the package that is being replaced and lists the repository as being <unknown>, why is it specifying anything for the repository of the installed package? regards, Steve

3 2

Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem
by Max Pyziur 01 Nov '24

01 Nov '24

Greetings again, Post-upgrade and using ssh to access other machines via ssh I get the following error: pyz@Gryphon ~> ssh brill -v OpenSSH_9.8p1, OpenSSL 3.2.2 4 Jun 2024 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d/20-systemd-ssh-proxy.conf debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d/30-libvirt-ssh-proxy.conf debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d/50-redhat.conf debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/crypto-policies/back-ends/openssh.config /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 57: Bad key types 'ssh-rsa,ssh-dss,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed25519'. /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 58: Bad key types 'ssh-rsa,ssh-dss,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed25519'. /etc/ssh/ssh_config: terminating, 2 bad configuration options I know that this is an occasional occurrence post upgrade. Thank you for any and all advice. Max pyz(a)brama.com

5 6

systemd-sysusers problem
by ToddAndMargo 01 Nov '24

01 Nov '24

Hi All, Fedora 39 Which should I have? systemd-standalone-sysusers or systemd? # dnf install systemd-standalone-sysusers --allowerasing Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:46 ago on Tue 29 Oct 2024 01:43:41 PM PDT. Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Installing: systemd-standalone-sysusers x86_64 254.19-1.fc39 updates 139 k Downgrading: systemd x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 4.7 M systemd-container x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 568 k systemd-libs i686 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 729 k systemd-libs x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 689 k systemd-networkd x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 649 k systemd-pam x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 363 k systemd-resolved x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 295 k systemd-rpm-macros noarch 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 31 k systemd-udev x86_64 254.5-2.fc39 fedora 2.1 M Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Install 1 Package Downgrade 9 Packages Total download size: 10 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: (1/10): systemd-container-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.r 245 kB/s | 568 kB 00:02 (2/10): systemd-libs-254.5-2.fc39.i686.rpm 271 kB/s | 729 kB 00:02 (3/10): systemd-libs-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.rpm 268 kB/s | 689 kB 00:02 (4/10): systemd-networkd-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.rp 248 kB/s | 649 kB 00:02 (5/10): systemd-pam-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.rpm 262 kB/s | 363 kB 00:01 (6/10): systemd-rpm-macros-254.5-2.fc39.noarch. 117 kB/s | 31 kB 00:00 (7/10): systemd-resolved-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.rp 238 kB/s | 295 kB 00:01 (8/10): systemd-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.rpm 512 kB/s | 4.7 MB 00:09 (9/10): systemd-udev-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64.rpm 517 kB/s | 2.1 MB 00:04 (10/10): systemd-standalone-sysusers-254.19-1.f 28 kB/s | 139 kB 00:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 836 kB/s | 10 MB 00:12 Running transaction check Transaction check succeeded. Running transaction test The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful transaction. You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'. Error: Transaction test error: file /usr/bin/systemd-sysusers conflicts between attempted installs of systemd-standalone-sysusers-254.19-1.fc39.x86_64 and systemd-254.5-2.fc39.x86_64

1 2

systemd-sysusers start fails
by ToddAndMargo 01 Nov '24

01 Nov '24

Hi All, Fedora 39 systemd-254.19-1.fc39.x86_64 (provides systemd-sysusers) I can not get lightdm to start Xfc or MATE. After entering my password into the greeter, I get a black screen with a mouse pointer, then back to the greeter. When I start lighdm, it see Failed to start systemd-sysuses.service So I need to fix that before going further with lightdm troubleshooting. From my working FC41 virtual machine (Xfce, MATE, lightdm), as a base line in troubleshooting, this is what it is support to look like: $ systemctl status systemd-sysusers ○ systemd-sysusers.service - Create System Users Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-sysusers.service; static) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: inactive (dead) since Tue 2024-10-29 15:16:01 PDT; 18min ago Duration: 1.152s Invocation: ca24eb4ee687400ca481db82053345c2 Condition: start condition unmet at Tue 2024-10-29 15:16:03 PDT; 18min ago ├─ ConditionNeedsUpdate=|/etc was not met └─ ConditionCredential=|sysusers.extra was not met Docs: man:sysusers.d(5) man:systemd-sysusers.service(8) Main PID: 285 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) $ systemctl list-dependencies systemd-sysusers systemd-sysusers.service ● └─system.slice This is what I get with FC39: # systemctl start systemd-sysusers <nothing> # systemctl status systemd-sysusers × systemd-sysusers.service - Create System Users Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-sysusers.service; static) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2024-10-29 13:44:43 PDT; 3h 16min> Condition: start condition unmet at Tue 2024-10-29 13:55:45 PDT; 3h 5min ago ├─ ConditionNeedsUpdate=|/etc was not met └─ ConditionCredential=|sysusers.extra was not met Docs: man:sysusers.d(5) man:systemd-sysusers.service(8) Main PID: 292 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) CPU: 7ms Oct 29 13:45:00 rn6.foobar.local systemd[1]: systemd-sysusers.service - Create> Oct 29 13:45:01 rn6.foobar.local systemd[1]: systemd-sysusers.service - Create> Oct 29 13:55:45 rn6.foobar.local systemd[1]: systemd-sysusers.service - Create> Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. $ systemctl list-dependencies systemd-sysusers systemd-sysusers.service ● └─system.slice # systemctl status system.slice ● system.slice - System Slice Loaded: loaded Active: active since Tue 2024-10-29 13:44:43 PDT; 3h 32min ago A tail on starting the service: # journalctl -efx -t systemd Oct 29 17:20:19 rn6.foobar.local systemd[1]: systemd-sysusers.service - Create System Users was skipped because no trigger condition checks were met. Subject: A start job for unit systemd-sysusers.service has finished successfully Defined-By: systemd Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel A start job for unit systemd-sysusers.service has finished successfully. The job identifier is 9388. Oct 29 17:20:20 rn6.foobar.local systemd[2843]: Started dbus-:1.2-org.xfce.Xfconf@5.service. Subject: A start job for unit UNIT has finished successfully Defined-By: systemd Support: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel A start job for unit UNIT has finished successfully. Hmmm successful. Ha! Main PID: 292 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) How do I fix this? -T

1 1

How to install new kernels in grub?
by ToddAndMargo 31 Oct '24

31 Oct '24

Hi All, $ rpm -qa kernel kernel-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64 kernel-6.11.3-100.fc39.x86_64 kernel-6.11.4-201.fc40.x86_64 Problem, only the 38 kernel shows in grub. How do I get the 40 kernel to show in grub? Yours in confusion, -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

8 32

[Off-topic] Data Centers
by Max Pyziur 31 Oct '24

31 Oct '24

Greetings, The data center industry has been developing on steroids over the last ten years. It's a phenomenon that is moving from my periphery of understanding to one that is becoming part of daily jargon. I've been trying to learn as quickly as possible given daily bread time constraints: companies, locations, counts, service offerings, data speeds/throughputs, bandwidth debate - 5G towers vs ?, power needs, etc. I did have a box at an LA colo center running a Quad Core Xeon, 8GB w a 1TB two-disk RAID setup in 2013 running CentOS6 until I shut it down recently. But that's probably a relic suitable for study by a paleontologist. I wonder if Fedora community members participate in the DC industry, or simply have some insights that they could share? Or just offer links to resources to read/review? Many thanks, Max pyz(a)brama.com

1 0

Dnfdragora Provided Info
by Stephen Morris 29 Oct '24

29 Oct '24

Hi, I've been noticing for a little while that when looking at the details for repository packages that it only populates the "File List" section for installed packages, for uninstalled packages it just says "Missing Info". Is this just Dnfdragora not doing things correctly or is this a Fedora change to not provide that info unless the package is installed? regards, Steve

3 4

Re: Announcing Fedora Linux 41
by ToddAndMargo 29 Oct '24

29 Oct '24

On 10/29/24 06:46, Matthew Miller via announce wrote: > Fedora Linux 41 is now officially available! > > Read the details in our Fedora Magazine article at: > > * https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-41 > > or download installer images from: > > * https://fedoraproject.org/ > > or, of course, simply upgrade your already-installed systems, which > shouldn't take much longer than ordering and consuming your favorite > pumpkin-spiced beverage. If you run into any trouble, or just have > questions, you can find help at: > > * https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ > > There are several important release-day bugfix and security updates > available today as well. If you upgrade from an earlier Fedora Linux > release, you'll get them as part of the normal process. For new systems, > please make sure to check for and apply updates as soon as possible. > YIPPEE!!! Here is a link to the various spins (live USB's): https://fedoraproject.org/spins/

1 0

/boot filling up
by ToddAndMargo 29 Oct '24

29 Oct '24

Hi All, Fedora 39 My /boot is almost full. 56% of it is occupied by rw-------. 1 root root 121768072 Aug 29 2023 initramfs-0-rescue-25f870556c344b599c639eb386296fa2.img Is this normal? Yours in confusion, -T

2 4

dnf disable-repo???
by ToddAndMargo 28 Oct '24

28 Oct '24

Hi All, fedora 41 What am I doing wrong here? # cd /etc/yum.repos.d/ # ls brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_.repo fedora-cisco-openh264.repo fedora.repo fedora-updates.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo winehq.repo # dnf upgrade --allowerasing --disable-repo=winehq* No matching repositories for "winehq*". Add "--help" for more information about the arguments. # dnf upgrade --allowerasing --disable-repo=winehq No matching repositories for "winehq". Add "--help" for more information about the arguments. ]# dnf upgrade --allowerasing --disable-repo=winehq.repo No matching repositories for "winehq.repo". Add "--help" for more information about the arguments. Yours in confusion, -T

6 8

← Newer
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
Older →