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Just to note: RPMfusion just put out an updated nvidia package that now works with newer kernels.
by Michael D. Setzer II 24 Apr '24

24 Apr '24

Had to have machine with older card keep running the 6.7.11 kernel in order to have a working nvidia driver for BOINC. The newer ones now work with the 6.8 kernels. Just to let others know. +------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mikes@guam.net mailto:msetzerii@gmail.com mailto:msetzerii@gmx.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +------------------------------------------------------------+

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Fedora 40 virtual machine
by Paolo Galtieri 24 Apr '24

24 Apr '24

I tried to create a Fedora 40 virtual machine under VMware version 17.0.2. The ISO image boots up fine, but when I double click on the "Install to drive" It will often fail withe the following error: Anaconda is unable to create /var/run/anaconda.pid because the file already exists. Anaconda is already running, or a previous instance of anaconda has crashed. I may have to try several times before I can install it to the drive. When it finishes installation and I click on "Finish Installation" nothing happens. I expect it to say reboot system, but it does nothing. I reboot manually and when it comes back up it initially says "Initial setup" but then the screen flashes and the login prompt appears. Paolo

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Xfce and Fedora40 for ARM
by ToddAndMargo 23 Apr '24

23 Apr '24

Hi All, I noticed this over on Xfce's Fedora 40 download page: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce/download Seems they have a ARM version. https://imgur.com/inUFui5.png Any computers/tablets for that to go on? -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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new boot error message
by Jon LaBadie 22 Apr '24

22 Apr '24

I'm on a Fedora 38 workstation. On reboots, say after a dnf update, I've started getting an error message I'd not seen before. I don't recall the exact syntax but it basically says "/efi/Fedora" doesn't exist. System still boots normally. I have an "efi" partition, 1st partition on the system disk. After boot it is mounted under /boot. The efi partition contains a subdirectory "EFI" and EFI contains a subdirectory "fedora". So after boot I can see "/boot/efi/EFI/fedora". Any explanation for the error message? tnx -- Jon H. LaBadie jonfu(a)jgcomp.com

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Stuck at grub prompt after reordering partitions
by Klaus-Peter Schrage 22 Apr '24

22 Apr '24

After many years of maintaing dual boot setups (Fedora/Windows) my harddisk layout got a bit confusing: Linux and Windows partition were scattered on mainly two harddisks (all gpt). I was able to free a third harddisk (ssd) and copied the linux partitions boot, root and home over to the new disk, where they now reside as /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3. I left the efi-partition on the disk /dev/sdc together with Windows 11. As in /etc/fstab all partitions are identified by their UUID, I didn't feel a need to adjust that file. Trying to boot brought me to the grub command line prompt. After some trial and error, the appropriate sequence of grub commands (set root=..., linux ..., initrd ...) made the system boot into a fully working Fedora 39 installation. From there I tried to repair GRUB2, following the guidelines at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2?rd=Grub2#Updating_GRUB_2_configuratio… namely those three steps: # rm /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg # rm /boot/grub2/grub.cfg # dnf reinstall shim-* grub2-efi-* grub2-common But rebooting still gets me to the dreaded grub>. So what am I missing? BTW, I did NOT use the grub2-install command which shoud not be used on UEFI systems.

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pulseaudio misbehaviour on remote
by Neal Becker 21 Apr '24

21 Apr '24

I'm running a connection to a remote server via x2go. The remote desktop is xfce. When I leave this unattended for some time, I come back to find that pulseaudio is sucking 64GB of VM. Needless to say, I don't really need PA running on it, but I haven't seen how to disable it. Also this seems like a bug, PA has no business using 64GB of VM. I've just been killing it when I notice, but I'd rather fix the problem. Any thoughts?

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What's up with debuginfod?
by Sam Varshavchik 19 Apr '24

19 Apr '24

Can anyone vouch for having a reliable, established, experience with debuginfod? My 'make check' runs valgrind a bunch of times. Right now, each invocation is sitting and doing nothing for about ten minutes, before it apparently times out downloading something from debuginfod.fedoraproject.org: poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLRDNORM|POLLRDBAND}], 1, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, 1000) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLRDNORM|POLLRDBAND}], 1, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, 1000) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLRDNORM|POLLRDBAN Whether using valgrind or gdb, I find that debuginfod gets stuck more often than not, and this is getting old. I don't know what it's beef is. I can reach debuginfod.fedoraproject.org on port 443 without any issues. After perusing the man page I set DEBUGINFOD_MAXTIME=10, and things are slowly, slowly moving forward. But I'm wondering if anyone found debuginfod to be reliable.

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a tool like xte(1) but for Wayland?
by Don Marti 17 Apr '24

17 Apr '24

I have some old shell functions that use xte to fake some keyboard input. For example, this is a function to run its argument(s) in a new gnome-terminal tab. run_in_tab () { xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Shift_L' 'key t' 'keyup Control_L' 'keyup Shift_L' 'sleep 1' "str exec $*" 'key Return' } Is there a tool packaged in new Fedora versions that's like xte, but for Wayland?

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Which keys did I hit?
by Sam Varshavchik 16 Apr '24

16 Apr '24

My fingers had a mind of their own and apparently hit some combination of keys that had a very weird result. I'm using an XFCE desktop. And, apparently, it became, maybe, fourty or so virtual pixels wider. Of course, the monitor still has the same number of pixels, so what was happening is that moving the mouse pointer to one of the edges scrolled the entire desktop slightly to reveal the extra virtual space on that side. Moving the mouse pointer to the other edge scrolled the virtual window on the desktop in the other direction, to the other side of the now-larger virtual desktop. It was a pretty cool effect, so after I had my fun I logged out and back in, and things were back to normal. But I'm wondering what keys did I hit, I looked through settings and didn't find anything relevant…

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systemd-networkd-wait-online times out
by Sam Varshavchik 12 Apr '24

12 Apr '24

I've been made aware that it takes two minutes for systemd-networkd-wait- online.service to spin its wheels, before giving up with a squeal: Apr 09 22:03:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting systemd-networkd-wait-online.service - Wait for Network to be Configured… Apr 09 22:05:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd-networkd-wait-online[1282]: Timeout occurred while waiting for network connectivity. Apr 09 22:05:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: systemd-networkd-wait-online.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Everything comes up normally. Network connectivity on this box is normal. Originally I was looking into why it took a long time for keepalived to come up on this box and grab its virtual IP address, and I determined that keepalived simply started after quite a bit of time elapsed before systemd deemed it necessary to start keepalived. And when I tried to figure out why's that, I discovered this to be the culprit. I did not find the man pages to be illumanating, just a bunch of systemd man pages referring to each other, with no clear indication as to what the issue is. At the time I obtained the above logs I was ssh-ed into the box in question, which was fully up. But systemd-networkd-wait-online was under the impression that it wasn't, apparently, and decided to croak after two minutes elapsed. So, how do I troubleshoot this?

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Failed to find a suitable stage1 device
by Michael Hennebry 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

While trying to install from Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39-1.5.iso , I got the following: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device: EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type None; EFI System Partition cannot be of type NTFS; EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type ext4.; EFI System partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; ... repetition I am not happy. The target is an HP EliteBook (not EliteDesk). The partition editing was done with Windows 10, which is still present. According to Anaconda: sda1 partition efi 100 MiB sda2 partition 16 MiB sda3 partition ntfs 220.83 GiB sda4 partition ext4 97.66 GiB slash / sda5 partition ext4 97.66 GiB home /home sda6 partition ext4 19.53 GiB var /var free space free space 517.58 GiB sda7 partition ntfs 509 MiB sda3, sda5 and sda6 exist because I used the Windows 10 tool. I left formating up to anaconda. Anaconda has not yet formatted them. What is going on? How do I do the installation? I do not rmember my last pain-free install. -- Michael hennebry(a)mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods

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[Now Playing] Intel Open CL Test Day
by Sumantro Mukherjee 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

Hey All, We're hosting an Intel OpenCL Test Day[0] and we need your expertise! Join us on 2024-04-09 to put Intel's OpenCL through its paces. Your feedback will be invaluable in shaping the future of this technology. Together, let's push the boundaries of performance and innovation. Intel's OpenCL (Open Computing Language) is a powerful framework for parallel computing across CPUs, GPUs, and FPGAs. It enables developers to harness the full potential of Intel's hardware, optimizing performance for a wide range of applications from AI and machine learning to high-performance computing. By participating in our test day, you'll gain hands-on experience and contribute directly to the enhancement of Intel's OpenCL platform for Fedora 40. [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-04-09_Intel_Open_CL -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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failing https://lists.fedorahosted.org/admin/lists/freeotp-devel.lists.fedorahosted.org/
by Walter H. 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

always get 500

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planning for upgrade.
by home user 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

Good morning, I have a stand-alone 2013 workstation (11 years old). It's dual-boot; the other OS is windows-7. I'm planning to upgrade from f-38 to f-39 in a few days. I've had hard drive space issues before. So I'd like to know how to determine in advance if I have enough hard drive space for the upgrade. Output from "df" and "ls -al /boot" are at the bottom of this post. How do I do it? If there's anything else you need/want to know, please ask. Thank-you in advance. =============== -bash.5[~]: df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 4096 0 4096 0% /dev tmpfs 8158692 0 8158692 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 3263480 1812 3261668 1% /run /dev/sda6 51422028 30401248 18382956 63% / tmpfs 8158696 0 8158696 0% /tmp /dev/sda3 485348 339555 116097 75% /boot /dev/sda7 947550748 32255828 867135280 4% /home tmpfs 1631736 256 1631480 1% /run/user/1001 -bash.6[~]: =============== -bash.8[~]: ls -al /boot total 319147 dr-xr-xr-x. 6 root root 5120 Apr 4 13:19 . dr-xr-xr-x. 22 root root 4096 Oct 5 2023 .. -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269405 Mar 17 18:00 config-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269340 Mar 26 18:00 config-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64 drwx------. 3 root root 1024 Jan 18 2023 efi drwx------. 6 root root 1024 Apr 5 07:35 grub2 -rw-------. 1 root root 116291735 Jun 1 2023 initramfs-0-rescue-70857e3fb05849139515e66a3fdc6b38.img -rw-------. 1 root root 74087638 Mar 28 10:42 initramfs-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64.img -rw-------. 1 root root 74047482 Apr 4 13:19 initramfs-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64.img drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 1024 Oct 11 2018 loader drwx------. 2 root root 12288 Mar 17 2013 lost+found -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 147744 Jan 6 17:00 memtest86+x64.bin lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 46 Mar 28 10:42 symvers-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 46 Apr 4 13:19 symvers-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8852552 Mar 17 18:00 System.map-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8853161 Mar 26 18:00 System.map-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14329896 Jun 1 2023 vmlinuz-0-rescue-70857e3fb05849139515e66a3fdc6b38 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Nov 1 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 160 Oct 19 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.5.8-200.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14802760 Mar 17 18:00 vmlinuz-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Mar 17 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14790472 Mar 26 18:00 vmlinuz-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Mar 26 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac -bash.9[~]: ===============

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If X11 login goes, what happens with x2go?
by Neal Becker 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

I totally depend on x2go for connection to my remote server. With f40, what happens? Is login to X11 desktop supported? I assume this is required for x2go to work.

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F40: mock fails with (some) explicit paths in BuildRequires:
by Sam Varshavchik 05 Apr '24

05 Apr '24

I cannot mock-rebuild packages that have /some/ BuildRequires: with explicit file dependencies, for F40. I have no idea why just /some/ of them are rejected. I'm using mock to rebuild SRPMS in an F40 chroot, and it fails thusly: Updating and loading repositories: updates 100% | 286.7 KiB/s | 23.8 KiB | 00m00s fedora 100% | 229.3 KiB/s | 19.7 KiB | 00m00s Repositories loaded. Failed to resolve the transaction: No match for argument: /usr/include/ltdl.h No match for argument: /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d/macros.systemd These are absolute file paths referenced by BuildRequires:. I replaced the problematic BuildRequires: with package names, libtool-ltdl- devel and systemd-rpm-macros. This allowed the build to proceed. But here's a head-scratcher. Here's (a part of) my diff: --- a/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.spec.in +++ b/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.spec.in @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ BuildRequires: redhat-rpm-config BuildRequires: courier-unicode-devel BuildRequires: %{__make} BuildRequires: shadow-utils -BuildRequires: %{_includedir}/ltdl.h +BuildRequires: libtool-ltdl-devel That %{__make} is still there. Somewhat unneeded, but it's there. And this built fine. So, can anyone tell me why %{_includedir}/ltdl.h, which is /usr/include/ltdl.h, got rejected by mock+dnf5, but %{__make}, which is /usr/bin/make was just peachy?

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[OT] plasma6
by Mike Wright 04 Apr '24

04 Apr '24

Hey all, If anybody is curious about KDE's new Plasma6 on Wayland you can install Fedora-KDE-Live from rawhide to get a sneak-peak at Fedora 41. Spoiler alert: it's nice. https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Spins/x86… :m

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HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
by Michael Hennebry 04 Apr '24

04 Apr '24

I've been trying to get an HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt to boot from dvd. So far no luck. I've managed to get DVD listed as the first boot entry for both UEFI and legacy. The machine seems to try and fail. The error messages go by rather fast. I think I've seem things like "invalid header" and "no such file", but am not as sure as I'd like to be. Most recently I tried and failed with Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39.1.5.iso Any idea what I should try next? My late girlfriend used it. I remember her password, which is why she is not on the sudo list. I do not remember either the root password or my own. -- Michael hennebry(a)mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods

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[Call for Action] Testing Alibaba Cloud for Fedora CoreOS 40
by Sumantro Mukherjee 03 Apr '24

03 Apr '24

Hey folks, As many of you might know, we are currently running the Fedora 40 CoreOS Test Week.[0] We would like to have anyone with Alibaba account to run this test case[1] and report [2] under Alibaba column. Should you have any questions, please let us know via email or https://matrix.to/#/#test-day:fedoraproject.org [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_40_CoreOS [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_CoreOS_Alibaba [2] https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/179 -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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Uh-oh...
by Dave Ihnat 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

Didn't see this go by, but it looks hot enough to risk a repeat posting. From a friend: It appears there's been a very serious effort to backdoor sshd on Linux via the xz compression/decompression system. https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4 If you have anything running very recent Linux, it's worth investigating whether you're affected. IBM Red Hat says, if you're running Fedora 40 or Fedora Rawhide: > PLEASE IMMEDIATELY STOP USAGE OF ANY FEDORA > RAWHIDE INSTANCES for work or personal activity. The identity that did this got to the point of being not only an xz maintainer but a Linux kernel contributor, and contributed to a number of other Open Source projects as well over the course of years. The identity may have been compromised to do this, or may have been created to do this, and may have used other contributions to build rapport or to compromise more projects as well. I looked at the detection script available at the URL in the posting. It's harmless at worst (don't know yet if it can detect anything). Caveat Utilitor, -- Dave Ihnat

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Installing weak dependencies: lsb_release - Why ?
by Francis.Montagnac＠inria.fr 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

Hi. I noticed, at least since March 19, that updating Fedora-39 installs also the lsb_release RPM as a weak dependency. Why ? Is there a way to prevent that, except excluding this RPM at each update ? AFAIK those weak dependencies are controlled by the --supplements of the RPM, but lsb_release has none. In addition, the lsb_release RPM conflicts with redhat-lsb-core that provides more files, for example: /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.3 -> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 that is needed by external binaries like lmutil (flexlm). Thanks for any input. -- francis

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[Test Day] Fedora CoreOS 40 Test Week
by Sumantro Mukherjee 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

Hey All, During the week of April 1- April 7 2024, the Fedora 40 CoreOS Test Week will be happening. The test week is an opportunity for the community to test FCOS based on Fedora 40 content before it is released as part of the `testing` and `stable` streams. As part of the Test Week, we'll host a virtual in-person session on Tuesday April 2 from 10:00 AM - 11:30 AM EDT (2:00 PM - 3:30PM UTC) where you can drop in, ask questions and get help from members of the Fedora CoreOS team. If you want to participate in the Test Week, check out the Fedora Wiki page for details and log your results on the Test Day page. - Wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_40_CoreOS - Test Day Results: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/179 - FCOS Tracker: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1685 - QA Ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/767 - Tue April 2 Video Meeting Link: https://meet.google.com/uwb-enhy-evg?authuser=0 - Tue April 2 Notes Doc: https://hackmd.io/kwCRZ9fGTgWuMSh0HDwQJw?view Thanks for your interest and we hope to see you online! -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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shutdown as a simple user
by François Patte 01 Apr '24

01 Apr '24

Bonjour, Up to yesterday, I was allowed to shutdown and hibernate my machine as a simple user. Yesterday a powercut while the machine was up suppressed this feature.... I don't understand why. How can recover this feature? Thank you -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte FSF https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/presenting-shoetool-happy-holidays-from…

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