April 2024 - users - Fedora mailing-lists

Re: TV over the internet
by R. G. Newbury 10 Dec '25

10 Dec '25

On 01/11/2010 06:08 PM, users-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: William Case wrote: >>> > > Hi Tim; >>>> > >> >>> > > I have a TV tuner card with my computer connected to my cable. It's >>> > > great. I prefer it to having my computer connected to my TV. >>> > > >> > What application do you use for watching? I've been looking for something user >> > friendly to give some people still on FC4 because they can understand xawtv and >> > all the easy to use applications stopped working. They rejected MythTV at the >> > point where it said "have your DBA set up a database..." and I have not found >> > anything which can handle clear-QAM, over the air digital, and NTSC without >> > asking for user entered channel frequencies in MHz or other things these people >> > aren't about to do. >> > >> > Note: even if I was willing to set it up for them for free, they would expect >> > support at the same price, advice I give them, time consuming work not so much. >> > > I use TVTime. It does one thing only, but it does it well. It gives me > my cable TV. > > It is easy to install and configure and just keeps on ticking. > > (Actually it does more than one thing, but there is no doubt that it's > main purpose is to run a TV tuner card for TV viewing.) Still on FC4???? On a Pentium 3 too I presume? Clear-QAM and OTA require an ATSC tuner, while an NTSC tuner is needed for analog cable. There are tuner units which will do both, although not all will do so simultaneously. Mythdora is a Fedora based, all in one install of mythtv. It will set up everything you need from one iso image. And Mythtv has definitely NOT required 'your DBA to set up a database' since well before Fedora 4. If your hardware is known to Fedora, then mythtv will not require any 'channel entered frequencies'. You merely select the proper tuning basis, such as US-Broadcast or US-cable when setting up the tuner(s). At the moment, the problematic area is setting up QAM on cable channels due to the cablecos using their own variable channel numbers for the channels (and generally, not including proper PSIP infor in the stream). That is, of course, where the cableco actually provides some clear QAM...which Rogers Cable in Canada, for example, has not done since June 2007. Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: "Be regular. Eat cron flakes."

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KGpg "An error occurred while scanning your keyring"
by Jonathan Ryshpan 12 Oct '25

12 Oct '25

This error pops up whenever my system boots up. Clicking on [Details <<] produces a message box with the single entry "Details" in it. What's happening? Thanks - jon

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ESC/P thermal receipt printers and Linux...
by Fernando Cassia 19 Aug '25

19 Aug '25

Running dmesg after plugging my POS-5890K labelled usb thermal receipt printer, it identifies itself as full-speed USB device number 9 using ehci-pci idVendor=0416, idProduct=5011 Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Product: POS58 USB Printer Manufacturer: GD32 Microelectronics SerialNumber: Printer I found the hard way that these printers are not supported by CUPS by default ... one has to go the extra length to either send esc/p codes manually via your own app http://kg4zqz.blogspot.com/2016/08/escposf-thermal-printer-filter-and.html ...or compile a driver from source, just like 20 years ago for some printers... maybe 2018 will be the year of desktop linux *sarcasm* I've tried this driver and it didn't work... http://scruss.com/blog/2015/07/12/thermal-printer-driver-for-cups-linux-and… (the driver source was fetched by git from its current github repo, so it's not out of date, it's in fact newer than the above blog post) What gives more clues is the small piece of thermal paper that came with the printer with a printout of its self-test (surely from Windows). It reads: 58-IV-U Thermal Printer Version: 58.E-Z04-AA Revised date: 06-Jan-2017 Command Standard: EPSON (ESC/POS) Print mode: Normal mode & Hex Mode Print method: Line Thermal Print width: 384 dots/line Print speed: 90 mm/s Chinese Mode: NO Print density: Level3 Current Codepage:0 Interface Type: USB Current Character: Chinese (GB18030) Alphanumeric Code Page: 0: OEM437 (Std.Europe) 1: Katakana 2:OEM850 (Multilingual) (…) 96:(Thai2) I wonder why the CUPS folks have not released a generic “EPSON ESC/POS” printer driver where the above parameters can be tweaked and entered manually. The driver mentioned above was compiled, and installed but didn’t work. A sample print gave gibberish. A second text-only printing (by clicking the CUPS “print self-test page” read “IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU’RE USING THE WRONG DRIVER FOR YOUR PRINTER”. A crude bug-finding code it seems… Any ideas before I head over to the CUPS maling list and pull my hair? For instance, this blog post https://mike42.me/blog/2015-03-getting-a-usb-receipt-printer-working-on-lin… talks about using "usblp" but commenters say "usblp" was deprecated (already in 2015) So what does replace usblp? And look, here someone else also pulling his hair. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45926734/raw-cups-printer-how-to-avoid-… FFS, a line printer was the first type of printer, back in the days of RS232 ports. If we can't get a USB line printer detected and configured and send ASCII to it, we're doomed. All because there's a dozen poorly documented layers of software crap obscuring it... FC

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color profiles for screens/monitors
by lejeczek 17 Nov '24

17 Nov '24

Hi guys How do we load & tweak color profiles in Fedora (without using external sensor-devices) ? My Lenovo Thinkbook built-in screen has different (and not adjustable in BIOS) color temperature what my external DELL shows - they are quite different thus annoying. many thanks, L.

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[FC8] ssh and CAC card???
by Todd Denniston 17 Sep '24

17 Sep '24

From what I understood, the change to openssh listed in: rpm -q --changelog openssh |less as: "* Wed Jun 20 2007 Tomas Mraz <tmraz(a)redhat.com> - 4.5p1-7 - experimental NSS keys support - correctly setup context when empty level requested (#234951) " was supposed to allow the Common Access Card (CAC) to work with the shipped Fedora 8 ssh. As per NSS usual, everything is undocumented, i.e., `ssh-add --help` does not help at all, and `man ssh-add` points to `ssh-add -s reader` # ssh-add -s 0 Enter passphrase for smartcard: SSH_AGENT_FAILURE Could not add card: 0 # ssh-add -s 1 Enter passphrase for smartcard: SSH_AGENT_FAILURE Could not add card: 1 So does anyone know how to use the possible functionality, or are we reduced to reading the source? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

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Apache fails to resume after hibernation
by Patrick O'Callaghan 07 Sep '24

07 Sep '24

I've noticed recently that Apache often (or perhaps always) doesn't respond after a system hibernate/resume cycle. After restarting it ('apachectl restart') all is well. I could script an automatic restart after resuming, but I wondered if this is a well-known problem with a simpler solution. poc

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Re: cisco ise
by Patrick O'Callaghan 02 Aug '24

02 Aug '24

On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 16:45 +0000, david richyad wrote: > cisco ise helps safeguard your business. It lets you control access throughout your network, see the user and device details, and stop/contain any threats. You can also use it to enforce security policies throughout your network. As a result, it helps prevent any technical issues and strengthens your cybersecurity measures. In short, you can manage your network security with more ease. Everything can be handled in one place, as opposed to needing multiple different applications open at once. > > https://www.fieldengineer.com/blogs/cisco-ise-deployment-guide Does this have anything to do with Fedora? Advertising is not acceptable on this list. poc

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This list's search engine not working?
by HaJo Schatz 22 May '24

22 May '24

Ever since I stumbled across this list, I seem to have major difficulties searching the archives. Say I want to see my posts to the list (they all have the same footer as below), I believe I could go to http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ and enter "HaJo" as a search string. Searching in all sections, I get 0 results. Does the search engine ignore me by some reason? BTW -- I've been posting since about June, and when showing the archives sorted by author, I do find my posts. OK, not the most helpful to search for my own posts, but I do have the same issue when searching for given topics. Any other search engine out there indexing this list reliably? Google shows 0 hits on a "site:www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/" search... -- HaJo Schatz <hajo(a)hajo.net> http://www.HaJo.Net PGP-Key: http://www.hajo.net/hajonet/keys/pgpkey_hajo.txt

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google-chrome-stable update fails today on gpg keys
by Neal Becker 22 May '24

22 May '24

Today's dnf update fails with: The GPG keys listed for the "google-chrome" repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package. Check that the correct key URLs are configured for this repository.. Failing package is: google-chrome-stable-121.0.6167.184-1.x86_64 GPG Keys are configured as: https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub

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Re: Tomcat
by Rahul Sadotra 21 May '24

21 May '24

Hi Michael, --- Michael Folin <michael.folin(a)donator.se> wrote: > how do I install Tomcat i fedora? > can't find it during the installation > If you mean during the installation of Fedora Core itself, then I don't think Tomcat is provided with Fedora Core (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). This means you will probably need to download Apache Jakarta Tomcat (either binaries, or the source which you'll need to build) and install it. Hope this helps. All the best, Rahul ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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2 sets of backups with Backups?
by Frederic Muller 14 May '24

14 May '24

Hi! I currently do weekly backups with Backups and Duplicity> I was thinking to add another batch job of daily backup, faster, for specific files and folders that are updated daily. Unfortunately Backups doesn't seem to give the options for 2 batches, or selecting single files. How would you do about that then? I have a NAS to which I plan to copy those files. Thank you for your help. Fred

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Fedora 40 - KeePass fails to run
by John List 05 May '24

05 May '24

Hi, Just an FYI that KeePass is failing to run on my recently upgraded Fedora 40 machine. I'm not sure of the correct place to report the issue. [image: image.png] John

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Help needed: disabling system wide the Caps lock key in GNOME/Xwayland
by Joachim Backes 04 May '24

04 May '24

Hi gys, I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I do not need (hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the disabling system wide, and how to get it working again? Regards Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight) 6.4.7-200.fc38.x86_64 Joachim Backes<joachim.backes(a)rhrk.uni-kl.de> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/

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can I clone from a usb flash drive to an NVMe drive?
by ToddAndMargo 03 May '24

03 May '24

Hi All, I am making up a USB flash from of Fedroa 40 MATE for a customer to play with. If he likes it, can I clonezilla clone it over to his brand new NVMe drive (gpart it to expand the extents)? -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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System upgrades. Where is the / filesystem?
by John Pilkington 02 May '24

02 May '24

Hi all: I have two old systems (with old nVidia graphics), recently upgraded from f38 to f39 and both at present using nouveau. One was OK-ish, the other had screen-recognition and HDMI-audio issues, and I thought it might be worth trying the more-mainstream f40. Now the main problem is with the previously OK (single-boot) box, which reports after the download and dnf-testing that "At least 446 MB more space (is) needed on the / filesystem". Google (fedoraforum) has a suggestion of trimming the journalctl log, but neither that nor any other space-clearing actions that I have tried has made any difference. KDiskFree shows multi-GB space on all except current /boot and a hopefully inactive remnant of another, much older/boot with a different mount point. Both of those have sizes around 450 MB and free space around 150 MB. TTBOMK only the current 6.8.7 f39 kernel and its rescue version are installed. Suggestions? Thanks. John P

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Upgrade to Fedora 40 errors on freerdp
by Ranbir 02 May '24

02 May '24

I'm trying to upgrade to Fedora 40, but I'm running into an odd error: Error: Problem: package freerdp-2:2.11.2-1.fc39.x86_64 from @System requires libwinpr(x86-64) = 2:2.11.2-1.fc39, but none of the providers can be installed - libwinpr-2:2.11.2-1.fc39.x86_64 from @System does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package freerdp-2:2.11.2-1.fc39.x86_64 The odd part is that both packages are available in Fedora 40. Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks, -- Ranbir

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F40 hibernation issue
by Patrick O'Callaghan 01 May '24

01 May '24

I've changed nothing since upgrading to F40 a week ago, yet I now find these errors in the journal: Apr 30 01:02:39 Bree systemd[1]: Reached target sleep.target - Sleep. Apr 30 01:02:39 Bree systemd[1]: Starting hibernate-preparation.service - Enable swap file and disable zram before hibernate... Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: dev-zram0.swap: Deactivated successfully. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: hibernate-preparation.service: Deactivated successfully. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: Finished hibernate-preparation.service - Enable swap file and disable zram before hibernate. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: hibernate-preparation.service: Consumed 2.698s CPU time. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: Starting systemd-hibernate.service - System Hibernate... Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: Stopping systemd-zram-setup(a)zram0.service - Create swap on /dev/zram0... Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd-sleep[90707]: Failed to find location to hibernate to: Operation not permitted <------------------ Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: systemd-hibernate.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: systemd-hibernate.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: Failed to start systemd-hibernate.service - System Hibernate. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: Dependency failed for hibernate.target - System Hibernation. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd[1]: hibernate.target: Job hibernate.target/start failed with result 'dependency'. Apr 30 01:02:42 Bree systemd-logind[1061]: Operation 'hibernate' finished. ...skipping... And the system is not hibernating. /dev/zram0 exists and is configured: # swapon NAME TYPE SIZE USED PRIO /SWAP/swapfile file 48G 0B -2 /dev/zram0 partition 8G 512K 100 poc

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rc.local
by George R Goffe 30 Apr '24

30 Apr '24

Hi, I noticed some time ago that rc.local became a service. I'm just getting around to address this issue but am having trouble getting my fedora 41 system to "notice" my efforts. Can someone post what they're doing to implement this new way of doing things, please? Best regards, George...

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crippling nvidia display issue.
by home user 30 Apr '24

30 Apr '24

(f-38; stand-alone work station; nvidia graphics card; dual monitor; kmod 4xx driver) I just finished doing a "dnf upgrade" as a prerequisite step to upgrading from f-38 to f-39. There were no hints of any problems. The kernel and the graphics driver were replaced during this "dnf upgrade". The akmods did finish before I rebooted. The shutdown took 5 minutes because it ran akmods (a second time?!). During the boot-up, there was a message that it was failing back to nouveau. The display is not working properly; only one monitor is being used and everything is oversized in the display. I am not comfortable proceeding with the f-38 to f-39 upgrade with the work station in this condition. Important: I have only one old kernel. I have no rescue kernel. How do I get this workstation working properly?

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KiCAD has lost my part symbols
by Fulko Hew 29 Apr '24

29 Apr '24

I recently needed to revisit a design I made 4 years ago, (back when I was still running F33/F34) I have since also recently upgraded to F39 (that has KiCAD V7) And the first problem I see is that on my schematic all of the parts have no symbols on the schematic. What happened to them, and how can I restore them? TIA Fulko

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Live USB extra space
by ToddAndMargo 28 Apr '24

28 Apr '24

Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with? Many thanks, -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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how long does dnf system-upgrade take?
by Fulko Hew 28 Apr '24

28 Apr '24

I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 I used the: dnf system-update download --releasever=xx process. - My first update from F35 to F36 worked. - Then I did the F36 to F37 update. KDE wouldn't work until I uninstalled qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld to get KDE on X11 to work again. - Once that was working I started the F37 to F38 It did all the downloads, transaction checking, and (presumably) installing and is now showing: Booting 'Fedora Linux (6.8.4-100.fc38.x86_64) 38 (KDE Plasma)' It's been about 2 hours... How long do I have to wait? It's also too bad, it doesn't tell you what it is or was last doing. Help! Fulko

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fail2ban on F40 is quiet
by Frank Bures 28 Apr '24

28 Apr '24

Hi, My machine is exposed to the wild and I was seeing hundreds of connection attempts per day in my logs and in fail2ban.log. All these nefarious activities ceased after upgrade to F40. Question: Is there something fundamentally different in F40 connectivity? I can still connect from outside on pre-defined ports using ssh so my ISP is not blocking anything. Thanks Frank -- <listfrank1(a)gmail.com>

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Fedora 40 is available
by Jeffrey Walton 27 Apr '24

27 Apr '24

It looks like Fedora 40 just dropped! Upgrade instructions at < https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/>. RPMFushion folks should wait about a month before upgrading. There always seems to be a lot of video problems after a new release while RPMFusion is rebuilding their packages. Jeff

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Unable to do F40 Live Workstation install on machine with very old graphics
by Andre Robatino 27 Apr '24

27 Apr '24

I have an old machine from 2008 with very old integrated graphics (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430). Up to and including F39, I was able to do a Live Workstation install simply by using the nomodeset boot option. With F40 that no longer works - it fails to come up in graphical. I ended up doing a netinstall, but it came up in text mode instead of graphical, and suggested VNC, which I was able to use to do a graphical install (necessary since I wanted to preserve /home, requiring custom partitioning). After installation, it turns out that by replacing gdm with another display manager (I used lxdm), I could even use GNOME, though screen locking, which requires gdm, doesn't work - not a big deal. So a couple of questions. Is it possible to use VNC with a Live install? If so, can one avoid having to bring up graphical mode on the machine until after the install (since it won't work for me)? If one's intent is to go straight to the installation and skip simply running live, is there something like a boot option to allow this? I guess what I'm asking is whether it's possible to do something like a headless Live install.

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Fedora 40 . Questiun : What is Fedora Castor.i
by Ger van Dijck 27 Apr '24

27 Apr '24

Hello Fedora Lovers, I installed Fedora 40 , Perfect all runs fine , Good work , You must be proud ! Question what does the Fedora Castor software ? Regards , Ger van Dijck.

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The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40
by Dario Lesca 26 Apr '24

26 Apr '24

Ok my notebook I work with Fedora from Core 1 with Gnome on Xorg-x11 I would like to continue to work with Gnome on Xorg-x11 ... even after version 40 What is the best way to do that without change distro? Many thanks -- Dario Lesca (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 39 Workstation)

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Keyboard dead with anydesk logon
by ToddAndMargo 25 Apr '24

25 Apr '24

Hi All, Fedora 39 anydesk-6.3.2-1.el7.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-7.fc39.x86_64 Any idea why the keyboard and the onscreen keyboard wont let me type my password into lightdm's password prompt. https://imgur.com/3AUrKOS.png Anydesk told me to reboot. Did not work. -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Just to note: RPMfusion just put out an updated nvidia package that now works with newer kernels.
by Michael D. Setzer II 24 Apr '24

24 Apr '24

Had to have machine with older card keep running the 6.7.11 kernel in order to have a working nvidia driver for BOINC. The newer ones now work with the 6.8 kernels. Just to let others know. +------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mikes@guam.net mailto:msetzerii@gmail.com mailto:msetzerii@gmx.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +------------------------------------------------------------+

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Fedora 40 virtual machine
by Paolo Galtieri 24 Apr '24

24 Apr '24

I tried to create a Fedora 40 virtual machine under VMware version 17.0.2. The ISO image boots up fine, but when I double click on the "Install to drive" It will often fail withe the following error: Anaconda is unable to create /var/run/anaconda.pid because the file already exists. Anaconda is already running, or a previous instance of anaconda has crashed. I may have to try several times before I can install it to the drive. When it finishes installation and I click on "Finish Installation" nothing happens. I expect it to say reboot system, but it does nothing. I reboot manually and when it comes back up it initially says "Initial setup" but then the screen flashes and the login prompt appears. Paolo

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Xfce and Fedora40 for ARM
by ToddAndMargo 23 Apr '24

23 Apr '24

Hi All, I noticed this over on Xfce's Fedora 40 download page: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce/download Seems they have a ARM version. https://imgur.com/inUFui5.png Any computers/tablets for that to go on? -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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new boot error message
by Jon LaBadie 22 Apr '24

22 Apr '24

I'm on a Fedora 38 workstation. On reboots, say after a dnf update, I've started getting an error message I'd not seen before. I don't recall the exact syntax but it basically says "/efi/Fedora" doesn't exist. System still boots normally. I have an "efi" partition, 1st partition on the system disk. After boot it is mounted under /boot. The efi partition contains a subdirectory "EFI" and EFI contains a subdirectory "fedora". So after boot I can see "/boot/efi/EFI/fedora". Any explanation for the error message? tnx -- Jon H. LaBadie jonfu(a)jgcomp.com

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Stuck at grub prompt after reordering partitions
by Klaus-Peter Schrage 22 Apr '24

22 Apr '24

After many years of maintaing dual boot setups (Fedora/Windows) my harddisk layout got a bit confusing: Linux and Windows partition were scattered on mainly two harddisks (all gpt). I was able to free a third harddisk (ssd) and copied the linux partitions boot, root and home over to the new disk, where they now reside as /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3. I left the efi-partition on the disk /dev/sdc together with Windows 11. As in /etc/fstab all partitions are identified by their UUID, I didn't feel a need to adjust that file. Trying to boot brought me to the grub command line prompt. After some trial and error, the appropriate sequence of grub commands (set root=..., linux ..., initrd ...) made the system boot into a fully working Fedora 39 installation. From there I tried to repair GRUB2, following the guidelines at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2?rd=Grub2#Updating_GRUB_2_configuratio… namely those three steps: # rm /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg # rm /boot/grub2/grub.cfg # dnf reinstall shim-* grub2-efi-* grub2-common But rebooting still gets me to the dreaded grub>. So what am I missing? BTW, I did NOT use the grub2-install command which shoud not be used on UEFI systems.

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pulseaudio misbehaviour on remote
by Neal Becker 21 Apr '24

21 Apr '24

I'm running a connection to a remote server via x2go. The remote desktop is xfce. When I leave this unattended for some time, I come back to find that pulseaudio is sucking 64GB of VM. Needless to say, I don't really need PA running on it, but I haven't seen how to disable it. Also this seems like a bug, PA has no business using 64GB of VM. I've just been killing it when I notice, but I'd rather fix the problem. Any thoughts?

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What's up with debuginfod?
by Sam Varshavchik 19 Apr '24

19 Apr '24

Can anyone vouch for having a reliable, established, experience with debuginfod? My 'make check' runs valgrind a bunch of times. Right now, each invocation is sitting and doing nothing for about ten minutes, before it apparently times out downloading something from debuginfod.fedoraproject.org: poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLRDNORM|POLLRDBAND}], 1, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, 1000) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLRDNORM|POLLRDBAND}], 1, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, 1000) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI|POLLRDNORM|POLLRDBAN Whether using valgrind or gdb, I find that debuginfod gets stuck more often than not, and this is getting old. I don't know what it's beef is. I can reach debuginfod.fedoraproject.org on port 443 without any issues. After perusing the man page I set DEBUGINFOD_MAXTIME=10, and things are slowly, slowly moving forward. But I'm wondering if anyone found debuginfod to be reliable.

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a tool like xte(1) but for Wayland?
by Don Marti 17 Apr '24

17 Apr '24

I have some old shell functions that use xte to fake some keyboard input. For example, this is a function to run its argument(s) in a new gnome-terminal tab. run_in_tab () { xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Shift_L' 'key t' 'keyup Control_L' 'keyup Shift_L' 'sleep 1' "str exec $*" 'key Return' } Is there a tool packaged in new Fedora versions that's like xte, but for Wayland?

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Which keys did I hit?
by Sam Varshavchik 16 Apr '24

16 Apr '24

My fingers had a mind of their own and apparently hit some combination of keys that had a very weird result. I'm using an XFCE desktop. And, apparently, it became, maybe, fourty or so virtual pixels wider. Of course, the monitor still has the same number of pixels, so what was happening is that moving the mouse pointer to one of the edges scrolled the entire desktop slightly to reveal the extra virtual space on that side. Moving the mouse pointer to the other edge scrolled the virtual window on the desktop in the other direction, to the other side of the now-larger virtual desktop. It was a pretty cool effect, so after I had my fun I logged out and back in, and things were back to normal. But I'm wondering what keys did I hit, I looked through settings and didn't find anything relevant…

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systemd-networkd-wait-online times out
by Sam Varshavchik 12 Apr '24

12 Apr '24

I've been made aware that it takes two minutes for systemd-networkd-wait- online.service to spin its wheels, before giving up with a squeal: Apr 09 22:03:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting systemd-networkd-wait-online.service - Wait for Network to be Configured… Apr 09 22:05:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd-networkd-wait-online[1282]: Timeout occurred while waiting for network connectivity. Apr 09 22:05:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: systemd-networkd-wait-online.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Everything comes up normally. Network connectivity on this box is normal. Originally I was looking into why it took a long time for keepalived to come up on this box and grab its virtual IP address, and I determined that keepalived simply started after quite a bit of time elapsed before systemd deemed it necessary to start keepalived. And when I tried to figure out why's that, I discovered this to be the culprit. I did not find the man pages to be illumanating, just a bunch of systemd man pages referring to each other, with no clear indication as to what the issue is. At the time I obtained the above logs I was ssh-ed into the box in question, which was fully up. But systemd-networkd-wait-online was under the impression that it wasn't, apparently, and decided to croak after two minutes elapsed. So, how do I troubleshoot this?

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Failed to find a suitable stage1 device
by Michael Hennebry 10 Apr '24

10 Apr '24

While trying to install from Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39-1.5.iso , I got the following: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device: EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type None; EFI System Partition cannot be of type NTFS; EFI System Partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; EFI System Partition cannot be of type ext4.; EFI System partition must be mounted on one of /boot/efi.; ... repetition I am not happy. The target is an HP EliteBook (not EliteDesk). The partition editing was done with Windows 10, which is still present. According to Anaconda: sda1 partition efi 100 MiB sda2 partition 16 MiB sda3 partition ntfs 220.83 GiB sda4 partition ext4 97.66 GiB slash / sda5 partition ext4 97.66 GiB home /home sda6 partition ext4 19.53 GiB var /var free space free space 517.58 GiB sda7 partition ntfs 509 MiB sda3, sda5 and sda6 exist because I used the Windows 10 tool. I left formating up to anaconda. Anaconda has not yet formatted them. What is going on? How do I do the installation? I do not rmember my last pain-free install. -- Michael hennebry(a)mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods

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[Now Playing] Intel Open CL Test Day
by Sumantro Mukherjee 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

Hey All, We're hosting an Intel OpenCL Test Day[0] and we need your expertise! Join us on 2024-04-09 to put Intel's OpenCL through its paces. Your feedback will be invaluable in shaping the future of this technology. Together, let's push the boundaries of performance and innovation. Intel's OpenCL (Open Computing Language) is a powerful framework for parallel computing across CPUs, GPUs, and FPGAs. It enables developers to harness the full potential of Intel's hardware, optimizing performance for a wide range of applications from AI and machine learning to high-performance computing. By participating in our test day, you'll gain hands-on experience and contribute directly to the enhancement of Intel's OpenCL platform for Fedora 40. [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-04-09_Intel_Open_CL -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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failing https://lists.fedorahosted.org/admin/lists/freeotp-devel.lists.fedorahosted.org/
by Walter H. 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

always get 500

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planning for upgrade.
by home user 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

Good morning, I have a stand-alone 2013 workstation (11 years old). It's dual-boot; the other OS is windows-7. I'm planning to upgrade from f-38 to f-39 in a few days. I've had hard drive space issues before. So I'd like to know how to determine in advance if I have enough hard drive space for the upgrade. Output from "df" and "ls -al /boot" are at the bottom of this post. How do I do it? If there's anything else you need/want to know, please ask. Thank-you in advance. =============== -bash.5[~]: df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 4096 0 4096 0% /dev tmpfs 8158692 0 8158692 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 3263480 1812 3261668 1% /run /dev/sda6 51422028 30401248 18382956 63% / tmpfs 8158696 0 8158696 0% /tmp /dev/sda3 485348 339555 116097 75% /boot /dev/sda7 947550748 32255828 867135280 4% /home tmpfs 1631736 256 1631480 1% /run/user/1001 -bash.6[~]: =============== -bash.8[~]: ls -al /boot total 319147 dr-xr-xr-x. 6 root root 5120 Apr 4 13:19 . dr-xr-xr-x. 22 root root 4096 Oct 5 2023 .. -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269405 Mar 17 18:00 config-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269340 Mar 26 18:00 config-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64 drwx------. 3 root root 1024 Jan 18 2023 efi drwx------. 6 root root 1024 Apr 5 07:35 grub2 -rw-------. 1 root root 116291735 Jun 1 2023 initramfs-0-rescue-70857e3fb05849139515e66a3fdc6b38.img -rw-------. 1 root root 74087638 Mar 28 10:42 initramfs-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64.img -rw-------. 1 root root 74047482 Apr 4 13:19 initramfs-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64.img drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 1024 Oct 11 2018 loader drwx------. 2 root root 12288 Mar 17 2013 lost+found -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 147744 Jan 6 17:00 memtest86+x64.bin lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 46 Mar 28 10:42 symvers-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 46 Apr 4 13:19 symvers-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8852552 Mar 17 18:00 System.map-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8853161 Mar 26 18:00 System.map-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14329896 Jun 1 2023 vmlinuz-0-rescue-70857e3fb05849139515e66a3fdc6b38 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Nov 1 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 160 Oct 19 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.5.8-200.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14802760 Mar 17 18:00 vmlinuz-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Mar 17 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.10-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14790472 Mar 26 18:00 vmlinuz-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Mar 26 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.11-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac -bash.9[~]: ===============

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If X11 login goes, what happens with x2go?
by Neal Becker 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

I totally depend on x2go for connection to my remote server. With f40, what happens? Is login to X11 desktop supported? I assume this is required for x2go to work.

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F40: mock fails with (some) explicit paths in BuildRequires:
by Sam Varshavchik 05 Apr '24

05 Apr '24

I cannot mock-rebuild packages that have /some/ BuildRequires: with explicit file dependencies, for F40. I have no idea why just /some/ of them are rejected. I'm using mock to rebuild SRPMS in an F40 chroot, and it fails thusly: Updating and loading repositories: updates 100% | 286.7 KiB/s | 23.8 KiB | 00m00s fedora 100% | 229.3 KiB/s | 19.7 KiB | 00m00s Repositories loaded. Failed to resolve the transaction: No match for argument: /usr/include/ltdl.h No match for argument: /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d/macros.systemd These are absolute file paths referenced by BuildRequires:. I replaced the problematic BuildRequires: with package names, libtool-ltdl- devel and systemd-rpm-macros. This allowed the build to proceed. But here's a head-scratcher. Here's (a part of) my diff: --- a/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.spec.in +++ b/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.spec.in @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ BuildRequires: redhat-rpm-config BuildRequires: courier-unicode-devel BuildRequires: %{__make} BuildRequires: shadow-utils -BuildRequires: %{_includedir}/ltdl.h +BuildRequires: libtool-ltdl-devel That %{__make} is still there. Somewhat unneeded, but it's there. And this built fine. So, can anyone tell me why %{_includedir}/ltdl.h, which is /usr/include/ltdl.h, got rejected by mock+dnf5, but %{__make}, which is /usr/bin/make was just peachy?

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[OT] plasma6
by Mike Wright 04 Apr '24

04 Apr '24

Hey all, If anybody is curious about KDE's new Plasma6 on Wayland you can install Fedora-KDE-Live from rawhide to get a sneak-peak at Fedora 41. Spoiler alert: it's nice. https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Spins/x86… :m

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HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd
by Michael Hennebry 04 Apr '24

04 Apr '24

I've been trying to get an HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt to boot from dvd. So far no luck. I've managed to get DVD listed as the first boot entry for both UEFI and legacy. The machine seems to try and fail. The error messages go by rather fast. I think I've seem things like "invalid header" and "no such file", but am not as sure as I'd like to be. Most recently I tried and failed with Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39.1.5.iso Any idea what I should try next? My late girlfriend used it. I remember her password, which is why she is not on the sudo list. I do not remember either the root password or my own. -- Michael hennebry(a)mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods

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[Call for Action] Testing Alibaba Cloud for Fedora CoreOS 40
by Sumantro Mukherjee 03 Apr '24

03 Apr '24

Hey folks, As many of you might know, we are currently running the Fedora 40 CoreOS Test Week.[0] We would like to have anyone with Alibaba account to run this test case[1] and report [2] under Alibaba column. Should you have any questions, please let us know via email or https://matrix.to/#/#test-day:fedoraproject.org [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_40_CoreOS [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_CoreOS_Alibaba [2] https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/179 -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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Uh-oh...
by Dave Ihnat 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

Didn't see this go by, but it looks hot enough to risk a repeat posting. From a friend: It appears there's been a very serious effort to backdoor sshd on Linux via the xz compression/decompression system. https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4 If you have anything running very recent Linux, it's worth investigating whether you're affected. IBM Red Hat says, if you're running Fedora 40 or Fedora Rawhide: > PLEASE IMMEDIATELY STOP USAGE OF ANY FEDORA > RAWHIDE INSTANCES for work or personal activity. The identity that did this got to the point of being not only an xz maintainer but a Linux kernel contributor, and contributed to a number of other Open Source projects as well over the course of years. The identity may have been compromised to do this, or may have been created to do this, and may have used other contributions to build rapport or to compromise more projects as well. I looked at the detection script available at the URL in the posting. It's harmless at worst (don't know yet if it can detect anything). Caveat Utilitor, -- Dave Ihnat

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Installing weak dependencies: lsb_release - Why ?
by Francis.Montagnac＠inria.fr 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

Hi. I noticed, at least since March 19, that updating Fedora-39 installs also the lsb_release RPM as a weak dependency. Why ? Is there a way to prevent that, except excluding this RPM at each update ? AFAIK those weak dependencies are controlled by the --supplements of the RPM, but lsb_release has none. In addition, the lsb_release RPM conflicts with redhat-lsb-core that provides more files, for example: /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.3 -> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 that is needed by external binaries like lmutil (flexlm). Thanks for any input. -- francis

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[Test Day] Fedora CoreOS 40 Test Week
by Sumantro Mukherjee 02 Apr '24

02 Apr '24

Hey All, During the week of April 1- April 7 2024, the Fedora 40 CoreOS Test Week will be happening. The test week is an opportunity for the community to test FCOS based on Fedora 40 content before it is released as part of the `testing` and `stable` streams. As part of the Test Week, we'll host a virtual in-person session on Tuesday April 2 from 10:00 AM - 11:30 AM EDT (2:00 PM - 3:30PM UTC) where you can drop in, ask questions and get help from members of the Fedora CoreOS team. If you want to participate in the Test Week, check out the Fedora Wiki page for details and log your results on the Test Day page. - Wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_40_CoreOS - Test Day Results: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/179 - FCOS Tracker: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1685 - QA Ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/767 - Tue April 2 Video Meeting Link: https://meet.google.com/uwb-enhy-evg?authuser=0 - Tue April 2 Notes Doc: https://hackmd.io/kwCRZ9fGTgWuMSh0HDwQJw?view Thanks for your interest and we hope to see you online! -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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