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Chrome Will Not Start
by Richard Kimberly Heck 13 Nov '25

13 Nov '25

I have several machines running Fedora 42. One one of them, all of a sudden, Chrome will not start. > google-chrome-stable Created TensorFlow Lite XNNPACK delegate for CPU. [13280:13315:1113/115904.140753:ERROR:google_apis/gcm/engine/registration_request.cc:292] Registration response error message: DEPRECATED_ENDPOINT And then it is frozen, and has to be killed. I updated everything. Same problem. Uninstalled and re-installed. No luck. I created a new profile and even a new system account and tried there: Same problem. Any ideas? Riki

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OT, Having problems with Yahoo mail and Thunderbird
by Robert McBroom 13 Nov '25

13 Nov '25

Yahoo Mail won't accept the password any more. Get the message Edge: To many requests. Can log in fine in Firefox. Tried generating a app password for Thunderbird as suggested on the web but no success. Is there another email app that people are successfully accessing yahoo mail?

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SELinux: or how I learned to start worrying and hate the bomb
by Sam Varshavchik 13 Nov '25

13 Nov '25

According to Google Skynet, Fedora Core 3 was the first release that had SELinux enabled by default. That was more than 20 years ago. I think that 20 years is more than long enough for this kind of technology to mature, and work the kinks out, and then it's smooth sailing from that point on. Yet, for the umpteenth time I have to create yet another bug for an AVC failure, and watch it being dupe-hammered, and everyone else's reports also having the same fate, for the next year or so. Why? I have to conclude that there's something fundamentally broken with SELinux. SELinux AVC denials should be rare. Like once in a blue moon. The fact that they still come out of the firehose, non-stop, and some poor soul has to chase down as many as possible, letting all others expire and autoclose – that is not right. This shouldn't happen. The current state of affairs would not be unreasonable say, within the first five years of SELinux's existence. But not 20 years later. Come on. Either fix the fscking thing, or get rid of it. When I have to install a cron job to run restorecon every five minutes, while the corresponding bug ages, that's a big honking clue that something is wrong in the state of Denmark. I might be wrong, but AFAIK Fedora/RHEL is the only Linux distribution that still screws around with SELinux. Google Skynet also mentioned that something called "Amazon Linux" also has SELinux enabled. Who? That doesn't count. So, resuming: if anyone ever wonders why only Fedora/RHEL bothers with SELinux, hopefully this clears it up. I believe that SELinux is fundamentally broken, and I don't think it's fixable in its current state. Fortunately, it is easy to turn it off. But is that what SELinux's advocates will say is the solution? Really? And if not, what /is/ the solution? Can someone come up with the answer to the following answer: what can, and should be done, to fix the constant pain point of AVC denials, permanently?

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Re: F41-43 Mate setting window size
by Steven I Usdansky 11 Nov '25

11 Nov '25

Control Center -> Look and Feel -> Windows -> Placement uncheck Enable windows tiling (may need to log out and back in) -- Steven I Usdansky, PhD Traveling Geologist

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rpm build package has "/usr/sbin/weak-modules" issue
by Feng Zhang 11 Nov '25

11 Nov '25

Hello, The recent Fedora versions have removed the script of "/usr/sbin/weak-modules" from the "kmod" package. On my Fedora 39, I found that the rpm tool: /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/kmodtool, from package kernel-rpm-macros-205-20.fc39.noarch, still calls /"usr/sbin/weak-modules". E.g.: /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/kmodtool:Requires(post): /usr/sbin/weak-modules /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/kmodtool:Requires(postun): /usr/sbin/weak-modules This will cause rpmbuild built packages failed to install with errors like: - nothing provides /usr/sbin/weak-modules needed by kmod-lustre-client-2.16.61-1.fc39.aarch64 from @commandline I could use "--nodeps" to ignore this error to forcibly install. While I wonder is there any reason to keep the "kmodtool" work like that? Or if there's a way to install "/usr/sbin/weak-modules" ? Thanks Feng

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F42 refuses to start
by Terry Hurlbut 11 Nov '25

11 Nov '25

Yesterday I turned on my computer to boot F42 after an overnight shutdown. It refused to load. The display got through all three points of the ellipsis, then showed a blinking underscore for five seconds. Then the underscore showed steady, and the booting got no further. Ten times I shut it down with the Power button and waited for it to reboot, with the same result. My device has a pair of SSDs, with the OS and most applications on one, and all my data on the other. So if I could boot the machine from anything, and then do any kind of installation of F43, I don't think I would lose my data. So would someone tell me, please, how to restore functionality to my desktop, with or without upgrading to F43, whether with a clean install or by using DNF5 (sp ) ? By the way, I have used KDE for years, and would prefer to stay in that environment and not switch to GNOME. Temlakos <temlakos(a)gmail.com>

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Did 4 upgrades to Fedora 43. Onew no problem, Two Had a reboot issue that was minor, and One was a total failure??
by Michael D. Setzer II 10 Nov '25

10 Nov '25

First one was a notebook that had a clean install of Fedora 42, and it did the dnf upgrade to 43, and rebooted just fine. Other two were machines currently 6 timezones away from where I am. those seemed to do the upgrade just fine for the download part, and then did the option to reboot and install. Thought everything was going fine, but on both of these machines, will upgrade was installing, could not see machines because it was offline upgrade, but then it started responding to pings, but found all ports but 631 were closed ( was another port, but don't recall. Neither the VNC or the ssh port were available. even from machine sitting next to it. Got brother to restart both of them, and then they seemed to be fine. The latest one was a complete fail, but was on a notebook right here with me. Again did the dnf upgrade and it downloaded all the packages, and prompted to do the offline upgrade which I did. Note in all cases, I had uninstalled all the wine packages, since was aware of that issue. Saw the reboot, and watched it go thru the update on boot. No error messages, and then it rebooted. Saw the Fedora 43 kernel option, and older Fedora 42 kernels, but it booted to fedora 43 kernel. Thought every thing was OK, but then ran a dnf update to update any packages. This is when it was showing Fedora 42 packages for everything, so that then failed with a message about the wrong GCCLIB? Tried rebooting to a Fedora 42 kernel, but it also failed. And then rebooting had it dump to a rescue prompt with the login of root, but could not find anything to fix issues. Did then boot to my G4L project kernel which is part of boot. Have spent the last two days copying all the files to various flash drives to backup all data. Have just done a clean install of Fedora 43 on machine, and it seemed to go ok. But now going thru major issues. 1. Tried to change the root user password. do sudo su and go thru process to change password, but it fails?? Originally, used passwd and it was giving a message about failure with Management token. Did finally get it to work, but have to use su -l, other machine works fine with just su? Old system had over 4,000 packages installed, so running dnf at the moment to install all the additional ones. Only one package came up with missing dependency, so it is being skipped. Was able to copy all my files from user directory and / and a data directory. dnf just download 4435 packages, but then failed since the RPMfusiong signatures wasn't installed, so have to copy that... So, not a happy camper... Should have used my G4L to make an image before doing update. That way could have just restored it. But takes time to image a 1TB disk. Having to try and get system in running shape... +------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mikes@guam.net mailto:msetzerii@gmail.com mailto:msetzerii@gmx.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +------------------------------------------------------------+

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Element Desktop
by lejeczek 10 Nov '25

10 Nov '25

Hi guys. Do you know what an installation is missing when Element upon start complains: "Your system has a supported keyring but encryption is not available" ? thanks, L.

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kernels not installing properly
by Greg Woods 09 Nov '25

09 Nov '25

I have an older Dell laptop where the kernel does not install correctly. What I mean by that is that RPM and DNF will show that the kernel packages are installed, but if I run grub2-mkconfig to generate a new grub.cfg file, the new kernel is not offered as an option at boot time. This has been going on since Fedora 38 was on the machine, as it is still running an F38 kernel even though I recently upgraded it from F41 to F42. An identical Dell laptop does not have this issue and runs the new F42 kernels just fine. I think this is related to the fact that for the newly-installed kernels, there is no vmlinuz or initramfs file for them in /boot. I did check to make sure that there is enough disk space, and I can actually build my own initramfs file for the newest kernel manually with dracut, but this does not fix the issue (no surprise since that does not create the vmlinuz file). Does anyone have an idea of where I might look to troubleshoot this? Thank you, --Greg

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rpm macros - overrider optflags ?
by lejeczek 08 Nov '25

08 Nov '25

Hi guys. Do you know how to override %optflags? I've been fiddling with it but have failed to affect the definition of this macro. many thanks, L.

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