On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:10:40 -0400 Tom Horsley <horsley1953@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:56:09 -0600 > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query. > > With journald all output is saved in a binary format file that (which is fully documented) > is impossible to query when examining a crashed system because > is is always corrupted (especially when there are systemd > bugs causing the crash). 9 times out of 10, you won't be able to > boot the system again unless you remove the corrupted > journal file (and it only takes a couple of days of searching > to discover that is the problem :-). Sorry to hear you ran into this. I've run into one journald bug like that last year sometime in rawhide... but it was pretty quickly fixed and there was a workaround the same day I think. kevin