On 12/01/2014 08:23 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

HI

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd.

Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address:

I mean compare:

systemctl restart sshd.service

with

service sshd restart

Is there something else to do with sshd other than sshd.service? I have not found it. Why not:

systemctl restart sshd

Have you tried? Hint: It works fine.

Nope. Nice to know.

Then there was good old 'chkconfig' that produced a nice tablular report of services that can be controlled. I have yet to find anything close to this with systemd.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet

You think

'chkconfig --list' can be easily replaced with

systemctl list-unit-files --type=service(preferred)
ls /etc/systemd/system/*.wants/

Nah. No way.

Oh, and that (perferred) gives an error :)

And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user control. I mean listed items like:

dbus-org.fedoraproject.FirewallD1.service   enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service      static
dbus-org.freedesktop.locale1.service        static
dbus-org.freedesktop.login1.service         static
dbus-org.freedesktop.machine1.service       static
dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service enabled
dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service      static
dbus.service                                static

And there are others there that are just as challenging to remember when you need them.