Hello Juan et all,

I don't know why do you think that comment was "police-like" or why do you think that been disrespectful to Gnome designers is correct.

I don't like Gnome Shell, but I simply opt not to use it. I don't need to be sarcastic and make comments on the people who work for the project. That their approach doesn't fit my ways doesn't mean they're wrong or they deserve sarcastic or diminishing comments.

Also, sarcasm and irony lead too easily to arguments and misunderstandings, so it should be avoided. Particularly in written means such as email and messaging.

My 2 cents.

Kind regards,

Silvia

FAS: Lailah

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 16:43, Juan R. de Silva <juan.r.d.silva@gmail.com> wrote:

>> As far as I can see from his comment he only disaprove some GNOME UI
>> decisions not GNOME entirely.
>>
>>> kind of comment is not welcome on the mailing list.
>>
>> Well, IMHO his is entitled to have his opinion. His comment is on topic
>> and in the right list.
>>
>> Your statement instead is quite a police like rebuke and to my taste is
>> not welcome either.
>
> I support the response that comments of that nature are not welcome. It
> went beyond just criticizing a specific idea, but a whole class of
> people and/or their backgrounds. That is not up for debate.

Well, he did used irony or sarcasm, if your prefer. However the meaning
of it in the context of conversation was clearly directed to some
DECISIONS made by whoever was responcible for them. But he defenitely did
not touch any personalities in particular.

And I cannot see in his comment anything about anybody's in particular
background

> Such discourse is clearly neither considerate or respectful, and goes
> against both the letter and spirit of the fedora code of conduct.

Irony and sarcasm are rarely considered "considerate or respectful" by
those aimed. However, both irony and sarcasm belong to a civilized
disputes toolset and are used in many public discussions on any level.

IMHO, some people should stop being too vigilant. I'm not really sure
GNOME needs souch tough protection? Healthy critisism never hurts and
always helpfull. Without it any project is liable to lose track and go to
a wrong direction until ended up in a ditch.

Let people use humor, irony, sarcasm, and whatever else (except explicit
insults certainly) and be thankfull they do. By speaking it out their
way they help you more than you think.
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