Just another thought...I,myself,do not have any political axes to grind.  Here I do see some (to my thinking) excessive sensitivities to "newbies" asking (what seems to be reasonable questions...) even if not in the comonally accepted appropriate way/format...I would hope that here, facing bleeding edge software, that some of the responses would be more supportive and less aggressive about format/way for those asking for support in what might be an unfamiliar environment for some newbies...  How can we win more converts to Fedora if some are