top -b -n 1 > top.txt
Not sure why the CPU% ages are so high.  Webpages normally take only a 10% or so per page.

GeckoMain = FF main thread.
Isolated Web C0 = various web pages.

top - 14:55:15 up 6 days, 16:01, 10 users,  load average: 5.78, 6.13, 3.77
Tasks: 538 total,   1 running, 537 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 80.7 us,  1.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 17.8 id,  0.0 wa,  0.5 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :  64273.9 total,  19031.3 free,  30313.6 used,  14928.9 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,      0.0 used.  30195.3 avail Mem

   PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
559812 me        20   0 9390852   5.1g 132812 S 337.5   8.1 331:58.36 Isolated Web Co
559936 me        20   0 6194244   2.4g 142088 S 237.5   3.8 104:34.23 Isolated Web Co
560076 me        20   0 6328896   2.6g 141168 S 225.0   4.1  67:50.76 Isolated Web Co
562804 me        20   0 5983464   2.1g 142608 S 100.0   3.3  57:26.30 Isolated Web Co
  2159 me        20   0 4713052   1.1g 983528 S  31.2   1.8   2470:30 kwin_x11
559129 me        20   0   22.8g   6.8g   2.6g S  12.5  10.9 526:53.93 GeckoMain
575656 me        20   0 4774780 975436 173984 S  12.5   1.5  40:15.65 Isolated Web Co
  1866 me        20   0 5299356   3.3g   2.3g S   6.2   5.2 421:14.24 Xorg
  2694 me         9 -11  390944  65388   9260 S   6.2   0.1  53:04.65 pipewire
  2696 me         9 -11  802360 398056   7464 S   6.2   0.6 161:27.93 pipewire-pulse
559410 me        20   0 4338412 545064 147552 S   6.2   0.8  43:09.37 Isolated Web Co
559810 me        20   0 3994248 553608 106156 S   6.2   0.8   9:23.27 Isolated Web Co
615816 me        20   0 2787544 149608  93300 S   6.2   0.2   2:24.82 Isolated Web Co
681104 me        20   0 4324832 525040 153568 S   6.2   0.8  19:38.53 Isolated Web Co
763376 me        20   0 2810896 159488  96568 S   6.2   0.2   0:14.92 Isolated Web Co
876107 me        20   0  977220 118692  98332 S   6.2   0.2   0:02.95 konsole



On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:51 PM Roger Heflin <rogerheflin@gmail.com> wrote:
If you have too many tabs open on some badly behaved websites firefox
will eat all of your ram.

weather.com is a good one, leave it setting for a few days open and
that tab will use up the ram.  It seems ok on my bigger machines
(32gb) but is a real issue on the machine with 10gb.

My 10gb ram machine was civilized by the earlyoom process that kills
the process running the badly behaving tabs and using too much ram.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:35 PM John Mellor <john.mellor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What on earth are you doing in Firefox and Thunderbird to use that
> swap?  I have multiple 8GB machines running the same Fedora, Firefox and
> Thunderbird, and virtually never get into swap at all.  Two the these
> machines are also Lenovo.  This makes no sense, so there must be
> something else hogging all that memory. Do a top and sort by RSS and see
> what the real problem app is.
>
> --
>
> John Mellor
>
>
> On 2022-01-11 12:30 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be
> > not enough.
> >
> > $ free
> >                total        used        free      shared buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem:         7380668     6930852      262676        1492 187140
> > 221144
> > Swap:       24157176    12044096    12113080
> >
> >
> > Firefox seems to be a bit part of the problem.   I quit it and see:
> >
> > $ free
> >                total        used        free      shared buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem:         7380668     5146100     1776840        1364 457728
> > 1948864
> > Swap:       24157176     5270956    18886220
> >
> > I am running a VM at 2Gb and a couple of Thunderbird sessions. Closing
> > these TB and waiting a while I drop down to
> >
> > $ free
> >                total        used        free      shared buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem:         7380668     3751784     1148396       16228 2480488
> > 3272716
> > Swap:       24157176     2422956    21734220
> >
> >
> > but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at
> > hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of
> > memory and swapping like crazy.  Probably bad for my SSD drive.
> >
> > So how to get to 16GB memory?
> >
> > What follows the x140e in the 12" format?  I can't figure this out
> > from basic Lenovo sales stuff.  Probably going to have to find a
> > Lenovo forum to get the info.
> >
> > But CompuRAM in UK says they can support up to 32GB on the x140e using
> > "newer SO-DIMM chips".  Crucial only sells 4GB for the x140e.
> >
> > Anyone have any knowledge on this?  Other than booting and getting
> > into settings, how do I figure out my bios version?  And to see if
> > Lenovo has a newer one that probably CompuRAM is counting on?
> >
> > Any US memory sources that will support more memory for the x140e? I
> > really don't want to deal with overseas shipping and support.
> >
> > And back to the "newer" hardware question on 140 followon.
> >
> > thanks for any input.  All this swapping is taking time when I really
> > have to wait for the system to bring in what is needed and things to
> > start working.
> >
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