3:35 p.m.
Very Dumb Question:
I have FC1 on two desktop machines, and normally leapfrog them : one got
RH8 while the other kept 7.2 till I felt safe with 8; then the latter got
RH9 while the other kept 8; and so on. (I try to stay at least one release
beyond the cutting edge.)
But I hit a snag (and have asked about it in several places, to no avail;
my apologies if this is a repeat here!): the machine that should now go
forward to FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I have no idea what I could have done to cause that. I've tried a variety
of things, including using my new Fedora-Legacy yum.conf to do yum remove
gnome-terminal and then yum install gnome-terminal. It did both, or seemed
to. But I still get a terminal with no prompt. I have three different
profiles defined for it, and normally use it with four or five tabs; but
none of the profiles gets any prompt.
I would prefer to upgrade rather than scrub and do a clean install of FC2;
but since nothing else gets my prompt back, I doubt that would, either.
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3:46 p.m.
Hi Beartooth,
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:35:28 -0400, Beartooth <beartooth(a)adelphia.net> wrote:
Very Dumb Question:
Not at all, this seems very strange.
[snip]
But I hit a snag (and have asked about it in several places, to no avail;
my apologies if this is a repeat here!): the machine that should now go
forward to FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I have no idea what I could have done to cause that. I've tried a variety
of things, including using my new Fedora-Legacy yum.conf to do yum remove
gnome-terminal and then yum install gnome-terminal. It did both, or seemed
to. But I still get a terminal with no prompt. I have three different
profiles defined for it, and normally use it with four or five tabs; but
none of the profiles gets any prompt.
Hmm. I don't know what could be causing this, but I can suggest a few
work-arounds. If you have another terminal program, you can try that.
Select "Run Application" from the menu and type "xterm" (no quotes)
in the box. If you have it installed, this should bring up a terminal
(not as nice as gnome's though). You can also press CTRL + ALT + F1
through F6 (hold down the CTRL and ALT keys and press F1) to bring up
virtual consoles where you can login and have a terminal. Press CTRL
+ ALT + F7 to get back to x-windows. Maybe this will at least allow
you to do what you need at a terminal.
I would prefer to upgrade rather than scrub and do a clean install of
FC2;
but since nothing else gets my prompt back, I doubt that would, either.
I would suggest doing a fresh install. After a while, there is no
telling what might be left lying around that might cause trouble.
Hopefully you are using multiple partitions. Just backup eveything
you want to keep to a non / partition (or move stuff to your other
computer). I'd suggest backing up stuff in /etc/ for reference and
moving back to the new system. If you do move stuff, move it
selectively, not the whole directory, and compare what you are going
to replace.
Oh, and I noticed you talking about editors in another post. I use
nedit, which is a nice, graphical editor that is very easy to use. If
you want a console editor, vim is probably the most popular there.
Hope this helps,
Jonathan
3:53 p.m.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:35:28PM -0400, Beartooth wrote:
But I hit a snag ...
FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I assume you are clicking on something.
Tell us what you are clicking on.
Most 'icons' have properties that you can inspect.
Use right mouse --> properties and tell us what you see.
Also can you run 'xterm'?
It is possible that something in your dot files
or login profile is getting in the way.
One common problem is the inclusion of NFS resources in your $PATH.
Also is this for all users or just one?
Can you add a new user test that new user?
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and may your buffers never overflow.
1:06 p.m.
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:35:28PM -0400, Beartooth wrote:
>
> But I hit a snag ...
> FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I assume you are clicking on something.
Tell us what you are clicking on.
A launcher on the panel.
Most 'icons' have properties that you can inspect.
Use right mouse --> properties and tell us what you see.
Under Basic
Name : Terminal
Generic Name : [blank]
Comment : Command line
Command : gnome-terminal
Type : Application
Icon : [a little monitor screen with >_ in it]
Run in terminal box not checked
Under Advanced
Try this before using: [blank]
Documentation : gnome-terminal/index.html
Name/Comment translations : [a whole great long list, none with a
highlight, check mark, or other distinction]
[nothing in the Add/Set or Remove boxes]
Revert box grayed out
Also can you run 'xterm'?
commanding "xterm &" at the user prompt in a KDE terminal emulation brings
up a terminal, with a prompt, which takes commands. (I use Gnome; but the
KDE terminal, which is very hard on my aged eyeballs, does work.)
It is possible that something in your dot files
or login profile is getting in the way.
One common problem is the inclusion of NFS resources in your $PATH.
There you're over my head, alas!
Also is this for all users or just one?
Can you add a new user test that new user?
Yes. I did, and tried "su test", then telling btth's kde terminal
"gnome-terminal &". (I'll log out and back in in a minute)
It flashed a message, and opened what looks like a gnome terminal, with a
working prompt -- a btth prompt, *not* test's -- .
Closing that, I found the message still on the kde terminal:
=====
[test@localhost btth]$
[gnome-terminal:15784): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to the
session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the
authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based
authentication failed.
=====
It did not give a new prompt at that point. I hit ^c. It displayed a blank
line, then
=====
[1]+ Done gnome-terminal
[test@localhost btth]
=====
I told it exit, and it gave me
=====
exit
[1]+ Done xterm
and then my normal btth prompt
Stay tuned. I'll log out, and back in as test.
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Remember I know precious little of what I'm talking about!
1:13 p.m.
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:06:15 -0500, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
> Can you add a new user test that new user?
Yes. I did, and tried "su test", then telling btth's kde terminal
"gnome-terminal &". (I'll log out and back in in a minute)
(snip)
Stay tuned. I'll log out, and back in as test.
Logged in as test, I put the terminal launcher on the panel, moved it to
the position I normally keep it, and clicked on it. Test got a
gnome-terminal, with a working prompt, and can modify things like the
colors -- which is what my eyeballs require.
I hope that tells you what I need to do to re-enable the prompt for my
regular user!
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Remember I know precious little of what I'm talking about!
1:25 p.m.
New subject: PS Re: VDQ : Can my FC1's gnome-terminal be fixed?
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:13:43 -0500, Nifty Hat Mitch asked about users
other than btth. After I had established that test got a gnome-terminal
with a working prompt, I tried actually logging in as root. Root also got
a terminal with a working prompt, and could edit the profile, particularly
as to colors.
So I did shutdown -r now, and logged back in after reboot as btth. Btth
still gets only a gnome-terminal without a prompt. :-(
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Remember I know precious little of what I'm talking about!
6:41 p.m.
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 02:13:43PM -0500, Beartooth wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:06:15 -0500, Beartooth wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
>
>> Can you add a new user test that new user?
>
> Yes. I did, and tried "su test", then telling btth's kde terminal
> "gnome-terminal &". (I'll log out and back in in a minute)
(snip)
> Stay tuned. I'll log out, and back in as test.
Logged in as test, I put the terminal launcher on the panel, moved it to
the position I normally keep it, and clicked on it. Test got a
gnome-terminal, with a working prompt, and can modify things like the
colors -- which is what my eyeballs require.
OK so gnome-terminal works for "Mr. Test". This tells me
that the system is OK and that the specific problem is associated
with your account setup.
gnome-terminal keeps setup information in
$HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal
$HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/
First try in a gnome-terminal to reset the default profile.
Click on
Edit --> profiles
On the Colors tab click and uncheck "Use Colors from system theme".
You can also edit the default theme to improve the contrast or color
choice. I suspect that some how the screen and text color are now
the same which makes it impossible to see the text. Hint for defaults
keep the default unchanged and make a copy to change when the tools
permit.
It may be quicker to cut and paste this command in a gnome-terminal or
an xterm.
# check that you are you with 'id'
id
# if not root and if you are you.
mv $HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal $HOME/.gconf/apps/XXgnome-terminal
Logout and log back in...
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May your cup runneth over with goodness and mercy
and may your buffers never overflow.
1:11 p.m.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:41:09 -0800, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 02:13:43PM -0500, Beartooth wrote:
>
> Logged in as test, I put the terminal launcher on the panel, moved it to
> the position I normally keep it, and clicked on it. Test got a
> gnome-terminal, with a working prompt, and can modify things like the
> colors -- which is what my eyeballs require.
OK so gnome-terminal works for "Mr. Test". This tells me
that the system is OK and that the specific problem is associated
with your account setup.
gnome-terminal keeps setup information in
$HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal
$HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/
First try in a gnome-terminal to reset the default profile.
Click on
Edit --> profiles
On the Colors tab click and uncheck "Use Colors from system theme"
It was already unchecked. Checking it got the prompt back!
But it also grayed out Built-in schemes -- so I can't set that to Custom,
and therefore can't set the Text color nor the Background color. When I
uncheck it again, I can set those; they were already very different --
dark brown on light green; I darkened one further and lightened the other
further; but when I got back out of editing the profile, the prompt was
still absent. Checking it once more brought the prompt back -- black on
white.
Palette, with the system theme colors checked, lets me choose among Linux
console, XTerm, Rxvt, and Custom. But, even though clicking on a color
gets me a palette, nothing I do with it seems to have any effect.
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