2:54 p.m.
I've upgraded my distro from F33 to F34, F35, and now F36. Zero issues
all the way through except for one weird one. I run Xfce, and I
installed the xscreensaver* packages. I've always done this, and I
uninstalled the xfce4-screensaver package. I like the plain old
xscreensaver packages.
It's not been a problem before (that I recall), but now all of sudden
several screen savers just hammer the CPU. To the point where I can't
even get the popup screen to enter my password to appear. Or after it
appears, it takes MANY seconds for the password to be checked, and it
seems like it's dropping characters because I am reasonably certain I
typed it correctly, but it hangs and I have to wait til the login screen
pops up again.
Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test each
one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
Thanks!
Thomas
3:35 p.m.
On 5/18/22 13:54, Thomas Cameron wrote:
Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test
each
one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
I run XFCE with the classic xscreensaver and have never had this
problem, although I don't lock the screen. My suggestion would be to
disable whatever screensaver is running when this happens, eliminating
the problem one piece at a time.
7:32 p.m.
On 5/18/22 15:35, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 5/18/22 13:54, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test
> each one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
I run XFCE with the classic xscreensaver and have never had this
problem, although I don't lock the screen. My suggestion would be to
disable whatever screensaver is running when this happens, eliminating
the problem one piece at a time.
Hehehe - the problem is, I have four monitors and I am never completely
sure which one is the one causing problems. I have gone through a bunch
of screensavers and have run across a handful that seem to peg the CPU.
I don't recall seeing this before though.
Thomas
5:57 a.m.
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 19:32 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
the problem is, I have four monitors and I am never completely
sure which one is the one causing problems. I have gone through a
bunch of screensavers and have run across a handful that seem to peg
the CPU. I don't recall seeing this before though.
I don't think it's going to be the monitors, it'll be the graphics
card. If you have one graphic card with four monitors connected, well
that's easy. If you have several graphics cards, you're in for some
debugging fun.
For what it's worth, the Xscreensavers have always been known to have
problems for some people. They were a common cause of surprise crashes
(e.g. the computer locked up while they were away and not doing
anything), as well as some being just CPU intensive.
Like others, I've just gone for a blank screen these days. Though I
used to like a slideshow from a curated directory of photos (e.g. I'd
select ones for the screensaver to use, not have it romp through every
image in my homespace). I don't think there's an easy way to do that,
anymore (i.e. not use the whole ~/Pictures folder, without installing a
different screensaver).
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11:16 a.m.
On 5/19/22 04:57, Tim via users wrote:
Like others, I've just gone for a blank screen these days.
Though I
used to like a slideshow from a curated directory of photos (e.g. I'd
select ones for the screensaver to use, not have it romp through every
image in my homespace). I don't think there's an easy way to do that,
anymore (i.e. not use the whole ~/Pictures folder, without installing a
different screensaver).
FWIW, I use the classic Xscreensaver package, and I have it set to use
the same folder for its pictures as Xfce uses for my random desktop
images. You just opem the screensaver settings, go to the Advanced tab,
select Choose Randome Image, browse to the desired folder and Bob's your
uncle.
2:06 p.m.
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 08:27:48PM +0930, Tim via users wrote:
...
Like others, I've just gone for a blank screen these days. Though I
used to like a slideshow from a curated directory of photos (e.g. I'd
select ones for the screensaver to use, not have it romp through every
image in my homespace). I don't think there's an easy way to do that,
anymore (i.e. not use the whole ~/Pictures folder, without installing a
different screensaver).
I fake it by selecting "Cosmos". That does a slideshow from the
directory "/usr/share/backgrounds/cosmos". Only about 15 images.
Then I add my own images to that directory as symlinks.
--
Jon H. LaBadie jonfu(a)jgcomp.com
1:39 p.m.
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 5:47 PM Thomas Cameron
<thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
On 5/18/22 15:35, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 5/18/22 13:54, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test
>> each one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
>
> I run XFCE with the classic xscreensaver and have never had this
> problem, although I don't lock the screen. My suggestion would be to
> disable whatever screensaver is running when this happens, eliminating
> the problem one piece at a time.
Hehehe - the problem is, I have four monitors and I am never completely
sure which one is the one causing problems. I have gone through a bunch
of screensavers and have run across a handful that seem to peg the CPU.
I don't recall seeing this before though.
Screensavers ... are these a library of images or are they X or GL
dynamic computational
heavy screensavers. Which graphics cards are installed and what
driver is active.
Is acceleration using the card enabled or is the load on your CPU.
Texture maps?
Double check driver install and setup for GFX cards.
Is OpenGL installed? Correctly?
Chrome/Chromium and FIrefox allow hardware acceleration on graphics cards.
Toggle on and off to test.
6:01 p.m.
On Wed, 18 May 2022 14:54:31 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
I've upgraded my distro from F33 to F34, F35, and now F36. Zero
issues
all the way through except for one weird one. I run Xfce, and I
installed the xscreensaver* packages. I've always done this, and I
uninstalled the xfce4-screensaver package. I like the plain old
xscreensaver packages.
It's not been a problem before (that I recall), but now all of sudden
several screen savers just hammer the CPU. To the point where I can't
even get the popup screen to enter my password to appear. Or after it
appears, it takes MANY seconds for the password to be checked, and it
seems like it's dropping characters because I am reasonably certain I
typed it correctly, but it hangs and I have to wait til the login screen
pops up again.
Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test each
one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
Thanks!
Thomas
What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the screen?
7:58 p.m.
On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2022 14:54:31 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
> I've upgraded my distro from F33 to F34, F35, and now F36. Zero issues
> all the way through except for one weird one. I run Xfce, and I
> installed the xscreensaver* packages. I've always done this, and I
> uninstalled the xfce4-screensaver package. I like the plain old
> xscreensaver packages.
>
> It's not been a problem before (that I recall), but now all of sudden
> several screen savers just hammer the CPU. To the point where I can't
> even get the popup screen to enter my password to appear. Or after it
> appears, it takes MANY seconds for the password to be checked, and it
> seems like it's dropping characters because I am reasonably certain I
> typed it correctly, but it hangs and I have to wait til the login screen
> pops up again.
>
> Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test each
> one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
>
> Thanks!
> Thomas
What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the screen?
Where's the fun in that? I like the wacky screensavers. 😁
Thomas
12:09 p.m.
On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the screen?
As I answered yesterday, I like the screensavers. They're fun. And up
until now, I've never had them lock my system up.
Thomas
1:11 a.m.
On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:09:04 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
> What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
> Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the screen?
As I answered yesterday, I like the screensavers. They're fun. And up
until now, I've never had them lock my system up.
Thomas
Sorry. i overlooked your answer.
I just want black screen.
With xscreensaver i can't get this. Just some odd grey color.
Bob
7:16 a.m.
On 5/20/22 01:11, Bob Marcan wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:09:04 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
> On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
>> What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
>> Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the screen?
> As I answered yesterday, I like the screensavers. They're fun. And up
> until now, I've never had them lock my system up.
>
> Thomas
Sorry. i overlooked your answer.
I just want black screen.
With xscreensaver i can't get this. Just some odd grey color.
Bob
No worries, man. I get it. If it gets worse, I'll probably go down your
path, as well. But for now, I kinda like the silly screensavers.
Thomas
8:09 a.m.
On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:09:04 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
> What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
> Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the
> screen?
As I answered yesterday, I like the screensavers. They're fun. And up
until now, I've never had them lock my system up.
I haven't used a screensaver in a long time, but because of your
comment, I decided to try them. Set them for short swap, 1 minute,
randomly. Maybe it was because of long absence, but I was impressed
with their intricacy and the programming that must go into them. I
found some to be more pleasing than others, but they were all
mesmerizing. Sort of like watching a fire, where the flickering
entrains the brain. Watching them is a good way to take a break from
mentally spinning wheels, as they quiet the mind. I spent a lot more
time watching them than I meant to, and I found myself getting flashes
of insight on random things in my life. Heh.
4:06 p.m.
On 5/22/22 08:09, stan via users wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:09:04 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
> On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
>> What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
>> Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the
>> screen?
> As I answered yesterday, I like the screensavers. They're fun. And up
> until now, I've never had them lock my system up.
I haven't used a screensaver in a long time, but because of your
comment, I decided to try them. Set them for short swap, 1 minute,
randomly. Maybe it was because of long absence, but I was impressed
with their intricacy and the programming that must go into them. I
found some to be more pleasing than others, but they were all
mesmerizing. Sort of like watching a fire, where the flickering
entrains the brain. Watching them is a good way to take a break from
mentally spinning wheels, as they quiet the mind. I spent a lot more
time watching them than I meant to, and I found myself getting flashes
of insight on random things in my life. Heh.
I know, I am SUCH a geek for loving them, but I absolutely do!
It's so cool to walk into my office and have multiple screens running
crazy, intricate screensavers, I really enjoy it. I'm a nerd, what can I
say? :-)
Thomas
9:27 a.m.
Hi Thomas,
In order to find out why the screensavers are so slow I would suggest
running a system-wide profiler (like sysprof as root) while the slow
screensaver is running.
you'll be able to find the spot where all the cpu-cycles are wasted this
way.
- Clemens
Am So., 22. Mai 2022 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Thomas Cameron <
thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com>:
On 5/22/22 08:09, stan via users wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:09:04 -0500
> Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/22 18:01, Bob Marcan wrote:
>>> What is wrong with just plain " xset +dpms " ?
>>> Because it is not using cpu and drawing unnecessary images to the
>>> screen?
>> As I answered yesterday, I like the screensavers. They're fun. And up
>> until now, I've never had them lock my system up.
> I haven't used a screensaver in a long time, but because of your
> comment, I decided to try them. Set them for short swap, 1 minute,
> randomly. Maybe it was because of long absence, but I was impressed
> with their intricacy and the programming that must go into them. I
> found some to be more pleasing than others, but they were all
> mesmerizing. Sort of like watching a fire, where the flickering
> entrains the brain. Watching them is a good way to take a break from
> mentally spinning wheels, as they quiet the mind. I spent a lot more
> time watching them than I meant to, and I found myself getting flashes
> of insight on random things in my life. Heh.
I know, I am SUCH a geek for loving them, but I absolutely do!
It's so cool to walk into my office and have multiple screens running
crazy, intricate screensavers, I really enjoy it. I'm a nerd, what can I
say? :-)
Thomas
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5:06 a.m.
On Wed, 18 May 2022 14:54:31 -0500
Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> wrote:
I've upgraded my distro from F33 to F34, F35, and now F36. Zero
issues
all the way through except for one weird one. I run Xfce, and I
installed the xscreensaver* packages. I've always done this, and I
uninstalled the xfce4-screensaver package. I like the plain old
xscreensaver packages.
It's not been a problem before (that I recall), but now all of sudden
several screen savers just hammer the CPU. To the point where I can't
even get the popup screen to enter my password to appear. Or after it
appears, it takes MANY seconds for the password to be checked, and it
seems like it's dropping characters because I am reasonably certain I
typed it correctly, but it hangs and I have to wait til the login screen
pops up again.
Anyone else seeing this? Is the only option to go through and test each
one to see if they cause problems, and disable them?
Thanks!
Thomas
What is wrong with xset +dpms ?
Not using cpu?
Bob
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