6:21 p.m.
Out of the blue, I just got popup messages on my
screen first telling me a new version of fedora
is ready to install then a few minutes and lots of
net access later telling me updates were ready to
install.
What is doing this crap?! I have all the automatic
update junk turned off, who has re-activated it
and how do I make it stop?
Have they embedded this in systemd now? Did I
inadvertently run some program that has the side
effect of starting a search for updates?
6:31 p.m.
On 05/27/2017 04:21 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Out of the blue, I just got popup messages on my
screen first telling me a new version of fedora
is ready to install then a few minutes and lots of
net access later telling me updates were ready to
install.
What is doing this crap?! I have all the automatic
update junk turned off, who has re-activated it
and how do I make it stop?
The packagekit service. I have masked it on my computer.
8:09 p.m.
On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:31:10 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote:
On 05/27/2017 04:21 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> What is doing this crap?!?
The packagekit service. I have masked it on my computer.
How did you mask it? It isn't there in systemctl -a -t service,
even though there is a file in /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services. I
manually disable it each time it updates by moving the file to a .bak
version, so masking it would be a lot easier. Also, there is now a kde
PackageKit file in /usr/share/dbus-1/services, and it also runs
automatically, so I now do the same there.
1:35 p.m.
On Sat, 27 May 2017 18:09:22 -0700
stan <stanl-fedorauser(a)vfemail.net> wrote:
How did you mask it? It isn't there in systemctl -a -t service,
even though there is a file in /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services. I
manually disable it each time it updates by moving the file to a .bak
version, so masking it would be a lot easier. Also, there is now a
kde PackageKit file in /usr/share/dbus-1/services, and it also runs
automatically, so I now do the same there.
For completeness, if someone searches later, it turns out that the -a /
--all option to systemctl doesn't really mean *all* service files. To
get a list of all unit files for services it is necessary to use the
list-unit-files command,
systemctl list-unit-files
Doing that shows that packagekit is the name for the PackageKit
program, and masking that works as Samuel said.
8:23 p.m.
On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:31:10 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
The packagekit service. I have masked it on my computer.
That may do it, but I still have no idea where the
popup messages suddenly came from. I run my own
custom .fvwm session and try to avoid starting
all the annoying junk that a gnome session starts.
In all the time I've been running f24 and fvwm, I've
never seen those popups before.
I had previously disabled dnf-makecache.timer so
it wouldn't start hitting the network at annoying times.
I'm surprised I could mask the packagekit service,
it shows as a static service in systemctl list-unit-files
and I thought the last time I tried to mask a static
service it refused to let me do that.
8:31 p.m.
On 05/27/2017 06:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:31:10 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> The packagekit service. I have masked it on my computer.
That may do it, but I still have no idea where the
popup messages suddenly came from. I run my own
custom .fvwm session and try to avoid starting
all the annoying junk that a gnome session starts.
In all the time I've been running f24 and fvwm, I've
never seen those popups before.
I don't know what triggers those. I thought it was Gnome Software that
made the popups, triggered by PackageKit.
I'm surprised I could mask the packagekit service,
it shows as a static service in systemctl list-unit-files
and I thought the last time I tried to mask a static
service it refused to let me do that.
I don't remember for sure, but I think I couldn't disable it because
it's a static service, so I masked it.
# systemctl status packagekit
● packagekit.service
Loaded: masked (/dev/null; bad)
Active: inactive (dead)
12:18 a.m.
On 27May2017 21:23, Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That may do it, but I still have no idea where the
popup messages suddenly came from. I run my own
custom .fvwm session and try to avoid starting
all the annoying junk that a gnome session starts.
In all the time I've been running f24 and fvwm, I've
never seen those popups before.
Hey, me too! (Actually I've been using a Mac for a few years, but when I'm on
an X11 desktop...)
Suggestion: when the popup is up, do a ps. Close the popup. ps again. If you're
lucky you'll be able to see the responsible program (or some "alert" tool,
invoked by the evildoer).
Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <cs(a)zip.com.au>
8:14 a.m.
On Sun, 28 May 2017 15:18:30 +1000
Cameron Simpson wrote:
Suggestion: when the popup is up, do a ps. Close the popup. ps again.
If you're
lucky you'll be able to see the responsible program (or some "alert" tool,
invoked by the evildoer).
I was about to try that, but apparently they are timed
so they go away before you get a chance to track them down :-(.
5:19 p.m.
On 28May2017 09:14, Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2017 15:18:30 +1000
Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Suggestion: when the popup is up, do a ps. Close the popup. ps again. If
> you're
> lucky you'll be able to see the responsible program (or some "alert"
tool,
> invoked by the evildoer).
I was about to try that, but apparently they are timed
so they go away before you get a chance to track them down :-(.
We have some iphones which occasionally buzz. No popup, no notification
message, no obvious event in the current apps. Super annoying.
Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <cs(a)zip.com.au>
6:33 p.m.
On 05/28/17 07:21, Tom Horsley wrote:
Out of the blue, I just got popup messages on my
screen first telling me a new version of fedora
is ready to install then a few minutes and lots of
net access later telling me updates were ready to
install.
What is doing this crap?! I have all the automatic
update junk turned off, who has re-activated it
and how do I make it stop?
Have they embedded this in systemd now? Did I
inadvertently run some program that has the side
effect of starting a search for updates?
I guess you need to be a little bit more specific. What desktop are you
using? What do you mean by "all the automatic..." turned off. Telling
folks what you've already done is a good idea. I don't think you want
people to suggest you doing one thing and only have you respond "I've
done that already....".
--
I'm jet lagged. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
8:07 p.m.
Tom Horsley wrote:
Out of the blue, I just got popup messages on my
screen first telling me a new version of fedora
is ready to install then a few minutes and lots of
net access later telling me updates were ready to
install.
What is doing this crap?! I have all the automatic
update junk turned off, who has re-activated it
and how do I make it stop?
Have they embedded this in systemd now? Did I
inadvertently run some program that has the side
effect of starting a search for updates?
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Could it be dnfdragora-updater?
12:51 p.m.
On 28 May 2017 at 00:21, Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What is doing this crap?! I have all the automatic
update junk turned off, who has re-activated it
and how do I make it stop?
This crap is gnome-software. I don't think there is a gsetting to turn
off just the distro upgrade functionality, but if you file an issue in
the gnome bugzilla I can add something when I return from holiday.
Richard
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