Am Mi, den 29.12.2004 schrieb Ow Mun Heng um 9:29: I have all the mails of this list in one folder on my Cyrus-IMAPd and it contains up to now 82,828 mails So we should reach 83 thousand mails in total for 2004 on fedora-list(a)redhat.com. That is quite a lot. I think I did read most of them (~90%), at least in "draft read mode". My contribution so far are 4,287 mails in 2004. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | new address - new key: 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on Athlon kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp Serendipity 14:03:58 up 6 days, 15:48, load average: 0.61, 0.75, 0.67

Am Mi, den 29.12.2004 schrieb Ow Mun Heng um 14:53: Will see whether I find time to read the mail headers into an SQL database and do some statistics from it. http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu --> plus addressing http://www.sendmail.org/m4/misc_features.html Helps me in filtering mail and detection where someone may have got my mail address from. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | new address - new key: 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on Athlon kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp Serendipity 15:07:21 up 6 days, 16:51, load average: 0.64, 0.58, 0.49

On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 22:20, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Interesting bit there. So, you have all your list mails in user.alex.lists?? Can you have something like List --Fedora --gentoo --Evolution and get them sent this way -> alex+list+Fedora(a)etc.com? where does sieve sit in this config? I use Postfix/Cyrus on the FC3 server at home. Again, thanks. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 09:06:25 up 12:12, 6 users, load average: 2.50, 2.87, 3.00

On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 01:11, Alexander Dalloz wrote: hi alexander i have been emails in to a kind of help file for me broken over about one hundred folders how can i export to a database? im updating to fc3 soon on a new machine but i will be taking along this hdd but will format it on install to be able to export the data and not loose it is the only reason i havent updated already thanks for any insights evo 1.4.6 fc2 x86_64 thanks david

Am Mi, den 29.12.2004 schrieb Timothy Payne um 15:19: Tim, thank you very much for your kind and respectful words. To demonstrate that I am not always harsh and rude :) I am replying public and not by private mail (though it might be better). For 2005 we'll see how much time I can offer. Regards Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | new address - new key: 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on Athlon kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp Serendipity 15:54:40 up 6 days, 17:38, load average: 0.54, 0.43, 0.41

--- Matt Morgan <minxmertzmomo(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I agree. The other day, walking back home, I was thinking of why I really love this list. It is the way we all learn together, almost like the good old days when we were putting together some difficult assignment which made no sense to anybody.... Keep it up, Fedora-list! Although my campus supports RHEL, I am still sticking with FC.... Best wishes! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 23:34, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Actually was thinking about something like that. :) Depends on me having the time to set it up. -- Scot L. Harris webid(a)cfl.rr.com "Looks clean and obviously correct to me, but then _everything_ I write always looks obviously correct yo me." - Linus

Am Do, den 30.12.2004 schrieb Jorge Fábregas um 5:32: Thank you Jorge :) Though I am glad that my contribution is honored there are a lot of other people here on the list answering questions and discussing problems or searching for solutions. I am just a small part of it all. It has been said already, this mailing list demonstrates the quality and power of the Fedora Community. Ok, I will, but just in short form. I feel if you are interested in some particular information it would be better to contact me personal. Feel free to do so. I don't exactly remember myself. What I remember is that I some month ago I asked whether someone knew where to get a GTK theme I saw on a screenshot in the net. And I got the hint :) This does not mean that I never have questions. But in most cases I can manage to find my way by reading existing documentation. What you can find by using google is really a wonderland. During my time at university I worked as a network administrator and Linux was a small part (most was Novell and Windows and some HP-UX). Linux is much more than a hobby. It is the platform I prefer for many jobs and actually I am a "freelancer" in IT consulting. Main interests are mail services and network security. Well, the real starting point using Linux was in 1998. The system was a SuSE 5.2, because a friend was a SuSE user, the system had good German localisation and I got it cheap as a student. The first contact with Linux was earlier, I think in 1995, a crippled Slackware coming with a computer magazine CD. What shall I say? Either Linux was not prepared for me or me not ready to be a Linux geek :) Probably a combination of both. The documentation wasn't good - a typcial magazine 'edition' for just tasting things - and being online was very expensive here in Germany at that time. Too it was a period in Linux's lifetime where X was already a part of it, but regarding hardware recognition Linux was mainly a white paper. I failed to setup X with a screen you could work with. This was because you had to know the details of your graphics (card and monitor) very detailed and without a proper modeline, which you had to construct yourself, you either got garbage on the monitor or you blew it to death (no self protection of the monitor at that time). So my first contact with Linux in 1995 was a short episode and I went back to OS/2 (I still have deep respect at IBM for that great system). I am using Fedora because after a short time with SuSE in 1998 I switched to Red Hat Linux 5.2 (I still have that box) and used Red Hat since then. I simply like how Red Hat Linux / Fedora is structured internally. For my taste SuSE is too much Yast concentrated which means that using Yast you can't edit things manually. Deactivating Yast makes it difficult to find all the locations where customisation is needed. 1,5 year I had Debian Woody on my desktop system, but the stable Debian isn't something you want on a desktop. testing/unstable is like running Rawhide - the weekly headaches included - and working with the backports didn't make me lucky too. Debian stable is good for old and poor hardware, which runs for limited and specific purposes. At university I still remotely maintain a Debian system running as a print server and internal webserver for accounting data. Gentoo? I gave it a try - from stage 1 onwards. Well, its a system for those type of people having a motor cycle which is 90% of time in the garage where they are dismounting things, repairing, tuning, what else doing with it. And I don't run the most powerful hardware to afford the compile times X.org or OpenOffice.org or a Gnome for instances needs. I feel comfortable using Red Hat / Fedora, think to know the system good enough, am able to use RPM on command line both as user as well with packaging (last not perfectly) and mainly am able to use the system - hardware and the Linux system - as the tool which it should be as a tool. In the past I had a growing bookmark collection. When it came to a point where it took me nearly as long to find a specific bookmark as to find the same information (and site) by using a search machine like google or formerly Altavista, I began to no longer bookmark. So I really have no bookmarks. Not a single one. What I use a bit "bookmark-like" is the history and auto complete function of modern browsers. The rest is either stored in my brain or I know how to find it in time by using google. When I answer peoples' questions here on the list by giving links do specific documentation, then I always did a quick google search to hand out a valid link, and a link which should contain the desired information. Really, there is so much already written down by people all over the world. You just have to find it :) And I confess, that finding these manuals is often not trivial for beginners. So far by me. I finally wrote more than I originally wanted. Hope no subscriber will blame me for this ;) Being glad about your kind words. Sharing experience, knowledge, thoughts and even some times frustration is a fair part of the free software concept. So I am paying back what I once got by others when I was less trained and what I constantly get as input. There is really enough inspiration from this list too to me, so that I follow discussions where I don't contribute or that I test out things which I wouldn't when not knowing about them. You and all the others: I wish you a great year 2005! Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | new address - new key: 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on Athlon kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp Serendipity 20:48:30 up 8 days, 22:32, load average: 0.29, 0.14, 0.19

On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 04:58, Alexander Dalloz wrote: I'm using gentoo as my main distro now. Migrated from FC2 2 months back. I agree that it is a bit of a pain. Having to compile most of everything yourself and it's not suitable for a system with a slow CPU and low MEM. (like my P133 w/128MB Ram, which is why it's on FC3) There are binary pre-compiled versions for that in portage though. So it saves you a few CPU cycles. I feel comfortable using gentoo because I don't have to worry about the 18 months Legacy Cycle. It's a word I'm learning to hate. I've Dl'ed Centos and Tao but not had the chance nor the hardware to play with it. (YET) I'm a redhat/fc user since RH7 IIRC. It was a hit and miss thingy what with no hardware when I was in Uni. Only started serious work on Linux like 1+ year ago when my D600 Laptop came in the door. I'll drink to that.. Hang on.. it's alreay 2005 here. Greets from Asia. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 09:08:18 up 2 days, 12:14, 3 users, load average: 0.83,

On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 16:29 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: If you don't have a party on the 31st that "she whom must be obeyed" has told you that you must attend and listen to those painful friends of hers. You could select all messages and just before you hit delete tap your glass of Champaign on your screen to say good bye. But before you do you could forward all the Fedora messages to a Windows user you think needs help changing their OS, as a favor of course :-) Tim... -- _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X / \