> On 30 Dec 2022, at 22:08, Bill Cunningham <bill.cu1234(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > In visiting the backup subject from some time ago, I have found that from most environment boots that are rescue type boots, there are two restores that seem to be available. > > 1. rsync, of course, and; > > 2. I have seen fsarchiver. > > Now I have never seen restore/dump in a rescue environment. So to me there is no reason to use it. rsync is very complicated but might be well worth the time and effort mastering. fsarchiver seems ok. > > Other than that, clonezilla seems to be that best and fastest to me, for my purposes. As in incremental backups. dump/restore seems good, but rescue environments do not seems to have it, not the f37 workstation iso. Mastering find and using tar might be ok, but, no compression. > > Other than these two restore types, rsync and fsarchiver, is anyone familiar with a commonly available, rescue environment restore? I created a fedora rescue usb ssd that i install any software i need to maintain my machines. That removes the limitation of what is installled on the live media. I use duplicity for backup and restore. Barry > > B > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue

> On 31 Dec 2022, at 18:58, Bill C <bill.cu1234(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >  > Is there a way to add a backup restore method to, for example, the > fedora net install. That might be what I need. In my use case that is would not be useful as one of my fedora machines is my router. If it breaks then i have no network to netinstall from! I find that the ssd method is robust , allows me add scripts to help with specific machines and works with all my fedora machines. A take it that setting up an ssd as a rescue device does not appeal. Barry > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 1:42 AM Barry <barry(a)barrys-emacs.org&gt; wrote: > > > > > On 30 Dec 2022, at 22:08, Bill Cunningham > <bill.cu1234(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > In visiting the backup subject from some time ago, I have > found that from most environment boots that are rescue type > boots, there are two restores that seem to be available. > > > > 1. rsync, of course, and; > > > > 2. I have seen fsarchiver. > > > > Now I have never seen restore/dump in a rescue environment. So > to me there is no reason to use it. rsync is very complicated but > might be well worth the time and effort mastering. fsarchiver > seems ok. > > > >     Other than that, clonezilla seems to be that best and > fastest to me, for my purposes. As in incremental backups. > dump/restore seems good, but rescue environments do not seems to > have it, not the f37 workstation iso. Mastering find and using > tar might be ok, but, no compression. > > > > Other than these two restore types, rsync and fsarchiver, is > anyone familiar with a commonly available, rescue environment > restore? > > I created a fedora rescue usb ssd that i install any software i > need to maintain my machines. > That removes the limitation of what is installled on the live media. > > I use duplicity for backup and restore. > > Barry > > > > > B > > > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue _______________________________________________ users mailing list --users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email tousers-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives:https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedora... Do not reply to spam, report it:https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue

On 30 Dec 2022 at 17:07, Bill Cunningham wrote: Date sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 17:07:57 -0500 To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org From: Bill Cunningham <bill.cu1234(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: backup/restore Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; > In visiting the backup subject from some time ago, I have found that > from most environment boots that are rescue type boots, there are two > restores that seem to be available. > > 1. rsync, of course, and; > > 2. I have seen fsarchiver. > > Now I have never seen restore/dump in a rescue environment. So to me > there is no reason to use it. rsync is very complicated but might be > well worth the time and effort mastering. fsarchiver seems ok. > >     Other than that, clonezilla seems to be that best and fastest to > me, for my purposes. As in incremental backups. dump/restore seems good, > but rescue environments do not seems to have it, not the f37 workstation > iso. Mastering find and using tar might be ok, but, no compression. > > Other than these two restore types, rsync and fsarchiver, is anyone > familiar with a commonly available, rescue environment restore? > > B Just to add another option. I've been maintainer of the G4L project going back to 2004. It is built using Fedora 35 as the current build environment. It includes fsarchiver as an option the boot image. It basically is a bare metal backup system and has clone options as well. Use dd with various compression options. Have recently used it to clone machines from regular disks to SSD disk. Uses dialog as interface, so not a fancy GUI. Latest version on sourceforge is 0.61, but have done 79 updates with 0.62 so far. Probable going to release new version soon. Has kernel 6.1.1 as default and 6.2-rc1 also. Does work from CD, USB, or Grub menu with 40_Custom with regular boot. Also, have a UEFI boot option that uses grub4dos... Current files added to /boot are 10785120 Dec 26 22:36 bz6x1.1 22051545 Dec 26 22:36 ramdisk.lzma The version using syslinux rebular boot load for CD or USB is 50331648 Dec 26 20:46 g4l-v0.62alpha79-fc35.iso The g4lefi version is just copied to usb. 67108864 Dec 26 20:49 g4lefi-0.62.iso It has regular grub4dos boot and grub4dos-efi boot in image. Had also used the G4U (NETBSD based before finding G4L. Older versions where 32bit, but when Fedora stopped 32bit versions, I had to upgrade to 64bit. Then had to add UEFI since some users got new machines that would no longer boot without UEFI. (Doesn't have secure UEFI, since no way I could cover cost of getting that) Program is 100% Free by way. Use to use it for my computer labs before I retired. Also had UDPCAST so it can image many machines at once. Well, another option. > G4L project. I have never heard of that. I will look into it.