9:38 a.m.
After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
What's going on?
How do I make it stop?
If I find the inventor of blinking text,
how slowly should I kill him?
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Michael hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
"Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
Optimist: The glass is half full.
Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
3:12 p.m.
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:17:55PM -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 09:38:35AM -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
>> Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
>> What's going on?
>> How do I make it stop?
>> If I find the inventor of blinking text,
>> how slowly should I kill him?
>>
>
> You have to go back to before the invention of the VT-100 terminal
> to discover the inventor of blinking text.
Is he still dead?
> I think the issue is the alias for vi
> $ alias vi
> alias vi='vim'
Yup.
I don't have a real vi.
....
> # alias vi
> -bash: alias: vi: not found
> # which vi
.....
Turning off blinking generally would be a good thing.
If I went through all the vim syntax files and removed all
the blinks and use_blinks, would that do the trick for gvim?
It might be quicker to edit the terminal info file.
Last I checked terminfo hints can be local to your
account as specified by environment variables.
look at the man page for tic (terminfo compiler) and friends.
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T o m M i t c h e l l
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12:17 p.m.
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 09:38:35AM -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
> Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
> What's going on?
> How do I make it stop?
> If I find the inventor of blinking text,
> how slowly should I kill him?
>
You have to go back to before the invention of the VT-100 terminal
to discover the inventor of blinking text.
Is he still dead?
I think the issue is the alias for vi
$ alias vi
alias vi='vim'
Yup.
I don't have a real vi.
$ su -
# alias vi
-bash: alias: vi: not found
# which vi
/bin/vi
Vim is a smarter version of vi and has syntax driven
display atributes. It will color text as per the terminfo
file and your preferences.
Since I do not see blinking look at the terminal window you
have and tell us which one you are using i.e. help --> about
It may be as simple as using "Terminal" in contrast to "Gnome
Terminal"...
Or better yet use gvim and click Syntax-->Off; in vim you should be
able to ":syn off" as well.
Thanks much.
I'm using xterm for a command line and whatever
gvim gives me when it starts from konqueror.
.../x/xterm is a compiled terminfo file.
I should have though of syntax.
Blinking text does not do good things to my brain.
Most of the time syntax is good thing,
so I don't want to turn it off generally.
Just knowing :syn off is sufficient, though not excellent.
Turning off blinking generally would be a good thing.
If I went through all the vim syntax files and removed all
the blinks and use_blinks, would that do the trick for gvim?
See my first google hit:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/disable-syntax-highlighting-in-vim/
and also the obvious vim home site stuff:
http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/syntax.html
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Michael hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
"Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
Optimist: The glass is half full.
Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
11:38 a.m.
Michael Hennebry wrote:
After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
What's going on?
How do I make it stop?
If I find the inventor of blinking text,
how slowly should I kill him?
Enter the way-back machine..... To 1975...
I was designing the first online system for Michigan Department of
Commerce for the Insurance Commission; for the clerks to maintain the
records for the licensed agents. We had a Burroughs system with their
block-mode terminals. The only options for text was: plain text,
blinking text, reversed video text. I was the system analyst and the way
they ran things back then, the programmers reported to different
managers and 'knew' how to design screens, so they ignored my screen
design specs. All error conditions were shown by blinking the fields in
error.
So I asked those smart programmers to demo the application to the staff
over in the Insurance Agency, which they happily agreed to (dumb fools
that they were). You see the clerks were all older women wearing
bifocals. So as soon as the first blinking field appeared on the screen,
the heads turned rapidly away (try it sometime; bifocals make it more
than twice as bad). Needless to say, my specs for reversed video for
error fields was quickly implemented.
Blinking text should be relegated to torture chambers!!!!
Oh, I too was gunning for the guy that thought blinkning text was a good
idea.
9:48 a.m.
>>>> "Michael" == Michael Hennebry
<hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> writes:
Michael> -- Michael hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "Pessimist: The
Michael> glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full.
Michael> Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
You missed:
Pedant: You can't say half-empty or half-full. Empty and full are
absolutes. Half-emptied or half-filled is better.
Colin (part-time pedant).
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Colin Adams
Preston Lancashire
2:53 a.m.
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 15:48 +0000, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Michael> glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half
full.
Michael> Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
You missed:
Pedant: You can't say half-empty or half-full. Empty and full are
absolutes. Half-emptied or half-filled is better.
Colin (part-time pedant).
And an engineer from Melbourne would build a pipeline
from the Murray to
fill it.
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Hooroo,
Simon
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2:38 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 09:38:35AM -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
What's going on?
How do I make it stop?
If I find the inventor of blinking text,
how slowly should I kill him?
You have to go back to before the invention of the VT-100 terminal
to discover the inventor of blinking text.
I think the issue is the alias for vi
$ alias vi
alias vi='vim'
$ su -
# alias vi
-bash: alias: vi: not found
# which vi
/bin/vi
Vim is a smarter version of vi and has syntax driven
display atributes. It will color text as per the terminfo
file and your preferences.
Since I do not see blinking look at the terminal window you
have and tell us which one you are using i.e. help --> about
It may be as simple as using "Terminal" in contrast to "Gnome
Terminal"...
Or better yet use gvim and click Syntax-->Off; in vim you should be
able to ":syn off" as well.
See my first google hit:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/disable-syntax-highlighting-in-vim/
and also the obvious vim home site stuff:
http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/syntax.html
--
T o m M i t c h e l l
Found me a new hat, now what?
10:07 a.m.
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:38:35 -0600 (CST)
Michael Hennebry <hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
What's going on?
How do I make it stop?
If you coordinate the blinking of your eyes with the screen, you'll
hardly notice ;)
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Chris
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9:55 a.m.
On 3/6/09, Michael Hennebry <hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
After updating to Fedora 9, I used vi on an old mailbox.
Most of the header lines were blinking at me.
What's going on?
How do I make it stop?
I'd have a long, hard look at /etc/virc. But I'm not a vi person, so
what do I know.
Andras
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