Hello list; I am running Fedora Core 1 on an older Athlon K7 650/256MB Nvidia gforce2 mx 400 box. (very nice btw)
My daughter is in the USAf stationed in Japan, she haa an athlon XP 3200/512 MB with ATI video and Viewsonic 15" lcd monitor. She runs XP pro.
She has a very limited personal storage space and does not have physical room for a TV set. What I want to do is buy her a decent video capture card and a VCR. Then she can watch TV/Video tapes on her computer. As well as run her video camera into it (VHS) - no firewire or usb on the camera. She already has a DVD drive and CDRW on her system.
I do not run XP and want to test the hardware and maybe duplicate it on my system before I ship it to her.
What video capture card would you recommend?
thanks Mick M.
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On Monday 17 November 2003 19:07, Mick Mearns wrote:
What video capture card would you recommend?
Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250. Very nice card for the $$.
http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr250_datasheet.htm
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Jesse Keating wrote: | On Monday 17 November 2003 19:07, Mick Mearns wrote: | |>>What video capture card would you recommend? | | | Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250. Very nice card for the $$. | | http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr250_datasheet.htm
Touching that the card is called a WinTV card ;). What would you recommend for capture, Kino? - -- Jonathan C. Sitte jcsitte@staticnull.org Digital Arts & Computer Technology http://www.staticnull.org/jcsitte/ 917.414.2559 M-F 8AM-10PM
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On Monday 17 November 2003 19:16, Jonathan C. Sitte wrote:
Touching that the card is called a WinTV card ;). What would you recommend for capture, Kino?
Excuse me? I don't quite follow what you're asking. The WinTV PVR-250 is one of the best TV capture cards out there, especially for Linux support. uses the bttv modules, works great.
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Jesse Keating wrote: | Excuse me? I don't quite follow what you're asking. The WinTV PVR-250 is | one of the best TV capture cards out there, especially for Linux support. | uses the bttv modules, works great.
Just found it ironic that is all. It was sarcastic. ;). No point intended. :) - -- Jonathan C. Sitte jcsitte@staticnull.org Digital Arts - Computer Technologies Address: New York, NY 10128 US Cellular: 917.414.2559 Anytime URL: http://www.staticnull.org/jcsitte/ Public Key: http://www.staticnull.org/jcsitte/0x40E69A47-pubkey.asc
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On Monday 17 November 2003 19:16, Jonathan C. Sitte wrote:
Touching that the card is called a WinTV card ;). What would you recommend for capture, Kino?
Excuse me? I don't quite follow what you're asking. The WinTV PVR-250 is one of the best TV capture cards out there, especially for Linux support. uses the bttv modules, works great.
Jesse Keating RHCE MCSE (geek.j2solutions.net)
Hello; I received the PVR-250 card last friday.
Unfortunately the CD was scratched by the pcb mounting bracket and is bad. I have emailed both the vendor and hauppauge several times to no avail.
Is there anyone in the U.S. with this card? I will gladly pay for postage and expenses for a burned CD copy (vers 1.7). Paypal or cash.
My linux question is: can I run a Realmagic Hollywod plus DVD decoder card with the EM8300 chip along with this decoder?
The Hollywood Plus has vga-out/digital-out/and s-video-out. Whereas the PVR-250 has only inputs.
So I guess what I want to know is can I capture with the pvr-250 and display with the hollywood+?
The hollywood plus uses an external jumper cable to the vga cards output. So the monitor actually plugs into the DVD card.
I am buried in the morass of xine/mplayer and their dependencies. Not much fun on a dial-up connection.
Do you think that FC2 will include mp3/mpeg/ support ? I forgot what a pita it was to get rh9 to do this.
Once I get it working I plan to test the pvr250 using mythtv.
How did you guys get your pvr-250 cards to work/checked out?
thanks Mick M.
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Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250. Very nice card for the $$.
Thank you everyone (esp Jesse)
I have ordered the above card from comp-u-plus.com ( $119 + s/h )
I wanted 'real-word' opinions and this list worked out perfectly.
Mick M.
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Hello,
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:07:36 -0800 (PST) Mick Mearns off_by_1@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello list; I am running Fedora Core 1 on an older Athlon K7 650/256MB Nvidia gforce2 mx 400 box. (very nice btw)
My daughter is in the USAf stationed in Japan, she haa an athlon XP 3200/512 MB with ATI video and Viewsonic 15" lcd monitor. She runs XP pro.
...[snip]...
What video capture card would you recommend?
If she's (already) in Japan, I'm sure she can easily get this:
http://www.iodata.jp/prod/multimedia/tv/2003/gv-bctv5pci/
(Japanese language only but I'm sure the spec written at the bottom are quite easy to understand.)
I think it's reasonably priced and works with linux, too!
The included software works on Windows ONLY though...
Works with EPG so she can even schedule programs to record--she can even use her cellphone to add/edit/delete schedule. (Of course, if you know how to do it, you can do all of these even inside linux.)
Some more cards: (some of them are half the price of the one above)
http://www.kuroutoshikou.com/products/select/multi.html
Just find one with Royal Philips Electronics Chip (SAA7130/34) -- good quality and works with linux...
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:07:36 -0800 (PST) Mick Mearns off_by_1@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello list; I am running Fedora Core 1 on an older Athlon K7 650/256MB Nvidia gforce2 mx 400 box. (very nice btw)
My daughter is in the USAf stationed in Japan, she haa an athlon XP 3200/512 MB with ATI video and Viewsonic 15" lcd monitor. She runs XP pro.
...[snip]...
What video capture card would you recommend?
If it hasn't been reccomended already, I'd highly reccomend the ViewCast Osprey cards. I have the Osprey-200 in my PC right now and I've been very happy with it (Linux drivers can be had on ViewCast's site)..
I haven't actually attempted to capture anything via Linux yet, but I have used the viewing program to view the stream coming into the card and it looks fine.. =)
I've been using it for WinXP and it works great there as well..
kec
I have a bridge setup on a new Fedora box:
[root@fedora root]# brctl show bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces br0 8000.0008a16300be yes eth0 eth1
Im not having much luck getting iptables to work with this. Im able to run the following commands without error # allows all outbound traffic iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth0 --out-interface eth1 -j ACCEPT
# allow inbound services iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth1 --out-interface eth0 -p tcp -s 10.0.0.1 -d 192.168.1.5 -j DROP
# drop everything else iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth0 --out-interface eth1 -d ! 192.168.1.5 -j REJECT
But the iptables rules arent having any effect. What am I missing here? Does bridge-nf come with the Fedora kernels ? Do I have to rebuild the kernel to make this work?
Thanks, Ryan
check < cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
Should be 1 if not
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
set the number to one in /etc/sysctl.conf
It is 1... Still not working. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Ryan
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check < cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
Should be 1 if not
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
set the number to one in /etc/sysctl.conf
jludwig wralphie@comcast.net
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If you are using iptables try <iptables -L -n -v . This will indicate which rule or policy got the packet and hopefully what happened to it.
Remember for iptables forwarded packets don't transverse the INPUT or OUTPUT rules.
Send back the info to me I'll look at it if you can't see what is happening.
Will do tomorrow, the box isnt online right now. So am I to assume the bridge firewall patch is already in the Fedora kernel? Ive been looking the the kernel src.rpm and havent seen it yet. Again, I do have bridging working, its just that iptables is not working with the bridge interface ...
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If you are using iptables try <iptables -L -n -v . This will indicate which rule or policy got the packet and hopefully what happened to it.
Remember for iptables forwarded packets don't transverse the INPUT or OUTPUT rules.
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Ryan Rothert wrote:
Will do tomorrow, the box isnt online right now. So am I to assume the bridge firewall patch is already in the Fedora kernel? Ive been looking the the kernel src.rpm and havent seen it yet. Again, I do have bridging working, its just that iptables is not working with the bridge interface ...
The bridging firewall worked with the stock RH 7.2 kernel, so I assume it's still ok ;-)
Don't forget you have 3 interfaces when running a bridge. There's eth0 and eth1 for bridging the ethernet, and the bridge interface itself (in your case br0) for communicating with the host acting as the bridge. You don't want to forget to setup INPUT/OUTPUT rules for br0 or the firewall device is wide open to attack.
INPUT rules apply to packets entering br0, OUTPUT rules apply to packets leaving br0 and FORWARD rules apply to packets traversing the bridge from eth0->eth1 and eth1->eth0.
As to your original rules:
iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth0 --out-interface eth1 -j ACCEPT
this will accept any packet being forwarded from eth0 to eth1 regardless (I hope eth0 is your internal interface).
iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth1 --out-interface eth0 -p tcp -s
10.0.0.1 -d 192.168.1.5 -j DROP
this will drop any packet inbound from 10.0.0.1 to 192.168.1.5.
Finally,
iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth0 --out-interface eth1 -d !
192.168.1.5 -j REJECT
I think will reject any outbound packet not destined for 192.168.1.5 (I'm not sure what the effect of the ! following a \ will be), but you already accept all packets from eth0->eth1 above so this has no effect. Also, from the second rule it appears 192.168.1.5 is on the internal network so it doesn't make any sense to me unless you are trying to keep packets destined for this host which originate on the eth0 segment from appearing on the eth1 segment.
If the bridge module isn't I would suggest only changing that option having compiled kernels several times before.
Hello,
I finally got iptables to work with my bridge using the kernel from arjanv's page (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) ... Im trying to now get tc to work so I can shape some traffic. When I enter the following commands , there are no errors, however the tc rules are having no effect on the IP im trying to shape.
I just want to limit IP 10.0.0.17 to 512k, and 10.0.0.18 to 1024k and so on, Here are my tc rules
DEV=eth0 tc qdisc del dev $DEV root tc qdisc add dev $DEV root handle 1: cbq avpkt 1000 bandwidth 100mbit tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:1 cbq rate 512kbit allot 1500 prio 5 bounded isolated tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip dst 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1 tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip src 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1
eth0 is internal interface ---\ |------br0 (I gave br0 an IP just for management) eth1 is external interface---/
Any thoughts on why this doesnt work ? I have used these same rules on another Fedora box that acts as a NAT/router and that worked fine, but this new box has to act has a bridge.
Thanks, Ryan
Hi Ryan. I see that uve done a pretty good job using only TC as a bandwidth shapper. Can i ask u a favor? Could u send me an exemple of shapping 4 different IP addresses with four different speeds.
EX: 10.0.0.15 = 256kbps 10.0.0.16 = 384kbps 10.0.0.17 = 512kbps 10.0.0.18 = 768kbps
is that a way to shappe inbound speed different than the outbound speed using TC? if that is, could u send me an example script too? thanks a lot.
Cristian
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Hello,
I finally got iptables to work with my bridge using the kernel from
arjanv's
page (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) ... Im trying to now get tc to work so I can
shape
some traffic. When I enter the following commands , there are no errors, however the tc rules are having no effect on the IP im trying to shape.
I just want to limit IP 10.0.0.17 to 512k, and 10.0.0.18 to 1024k and so on, Here are my tc rules
DEV=eth0 tc qdisc del dev $DEV root tc qdisc add dev $DEV root handle 1: cbq avpkt 1000 bandwidth 100mbit tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:1 cbq rate 512kbit allot 1500
prio
5 bounded isolated tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip dst 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1 tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip src 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1
eth0 is internal interface ---\ |------br0 (I gave br0 an IP just for management) eth1 is external interface---/
Any thoughts on why this doesnt work ? I have used these same rules on another Fedora box that acts as a NAT/router and that worked fine, but this new box has to act has a bridge.
Thanks, Ryan
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Hi Ryan. I see that uve done a pretty good job using only TC as a bandwidth shapper. Can i ask u a favor? Could u send me an exemple of shapping 4 different IP addresses with four different speeds.
EX: 10.0.0.15 = 256kbps 10.0.0.16 = 384kbps 10.0.0.17 = 512kbps 10.0.0.18 = 768kbps
is that a way to shappe inbound speed different than the outbound speed using TC? if that is, could u send me an example script too? thanks a lot.
Cristian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Rothert" ryan@rothert.com To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: bridge and tc bandwith management
Hello,
I finally got iptables to work with my bridge using the kernel from
arjanv's
page (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) ... Im trying to now get tc to work so I can
shape
some traffic. When I enter the following commands , there are no errors, however the tc rules are having no effect on the IP im trying to shape.
I just want to limit IP 10.0.0.17 to 512k, and 10.0.0.18 to 1024k and so on, Here are my tc rules
DEV=eth0 tc qdisc del dev $DEV root tc qdisc add dev $DEV root handle 1: cbq avpkt 1000 bandwidth 100mbit tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:1 cbq rate 512kbit allot 1500
prio
5 bounded isolated tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip dst 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1 tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip src 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1
eth0 is internal interface ---\ |------br0 (I gave br0 an IP just for management) eth1 is external interface---/
Any thoughts on why this doesnt work ? I have used these same rules on another Fedora box that acts as a NAT/router and that worked fine, but this new box has to act has a bridge.
Thanks, Ryan
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I know it's not a useful recommendation, but I hope I can save your daughter some trouble. Avoid ATI's TV Wonder line of cards. They have pitiful Windows support, despite them working great under Linux. I've heard (I don't own one) that their AIW line of cards however, have excellent Windows support, many great features, and excellent picture quality.
Elliott Wilcoxon A college student who thought picking up a TV Wonder instead of a TV for his dorm room was a great idea. ;.;
Mick Mearns wrote:
Hello list; I am running Fedora Core 1 on an older Athlon K7 650/256MB Nvidia gforce2 mx 400 box. (very nice btw)
My daughter is in the USAf stationed in Japan, she haa an athlon XP 3200/512 MB with ATI video and Viewsonic 15" lcd monitor. She runs XP pro.
She has a very limited personal storage space and does not have physical room for a TV set. What I want to do is buy her a decent video capture card and a VCR. Then she can watch TV/Video tapes on her computer. As well as run her video camera into it (VHS) - no firewire or usb on the camera. She already has a DVD drive and CDRW on her system.
I do not run XP and want to test the hardware and maybe duplicate it on my system before I ship it to her.
What video capture card would you recommend?
thanks Mick M.
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.
I bought an ATI Wonder Ve for $39 at bestbuy. The Windows software was ok ... the card worked great under linux. It is a no frills 'Cable or Composite in' card.
Kreg
Mick Mearns wrote:
Hello list; I am running Fedora Core 1 on an older Athlon K7 650/256MB Nvidia gforce2 mx 400 box. (very nice btw)
My daughter is in the USAf stationed in Japan, she haa an athlon XP 3200/512 MB with ATI video and Viewsonic 15" lcd monitor. She runs XP pro.
She has a very limited personal storage space and does not have physical room for a TV set. What I want to do is buy her a decent video capture card and a VCR. Then she can watch TV/Video tapes on her computer. As well as run her video camera into it (VHS) - no firewire or usb on the camera. She already has a DVD drive and CDRW on her system.
I do not run XP and want to test the hardware and maybe duplicate it on my system before I ship it to her.
What video capture card would you recommend?
thanks Mick M.
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