3:43 a.m.
once again regarding docker (but really a more general query), i'm
trying to clarify the various sources of fedora packages WRT which
release/update/testing/rawhide version they correspond to.
for example, i'm assuming that the following URL is the absolutely
top level of all possible packages for fedora in all its
current incarnations:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/
is that a fair statement? so i just want to clarify the subdirectories
there. first, i'm assuming that:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/
represents the contents as they were distributed at the time of
official release, yes?
next, i'm guessing that "updates/":
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/
represents only *normal* package updates for each official release, so
that ".../updates/22/" are package updates for f22, etc. i also see
".../updates/23"; i assume those would be updates for the current f23
release and test candidates, is that right?
then there's the "updates/testing" stuff for each release:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/
representing additional available packages if i choose to enable the
"updates-testing" repo.
and, finally, there's rawhide:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/
if i want to live dangerously.
the reason i'm asking this is that i'm trying to collect a list of
docker-related fedora packages with a brief explanation of what
they're for, and i ran into the following quirk(?).
currently on my "updates-testing"-updated f22 system, i have an
installed package named "docker-selinux". but when i went digging
through the fedora package db looking for docker-related stuff:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/*docker*/
that package is not listed there anywhere. it appears in rawhide, and
in f23 updates-testing, so why is there no mention of it in the
package db?
is all this written down somewhere? thanks.
rday
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6:59 a.m.
On 08/26/15 03:43, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
once again regarding docker (but really a more general query), i'm
trying to clarify the various sources of fedora packages WRT which
release/update/testing/rawhide version they correspond to.
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is all this written down somewhere? thanks.
.
right or wrong, it is now. ;-)
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9:54 a.m.
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, g wrote:
On 08/26/15 03:43, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> once again regarding docker (but really a more general query), i'm
> trying to clarify the various sources of fedora packages WRT which
> release/update/testing/rawhide version they correspond to.
<>
> is all this written down somewhere? thanks.
>
.
right or wrong, it is now. ;-)
just for fun, i went to the fedora DL site and created a list of the
various docker RPM packages for my own edification, and put them here
to help me figure out what's going on:
http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Docker_on_Fedora#Current_state_o...
as i count it, there are six different versioned packages. and even
that doesn't seem to match what i read here:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/docker/overview/
which claims that rawhide is at a 1.8.0 version, whcih doesn't match
what i see in the DL pages.
is there somewhere an explanation of versioning and packaging
workflow?
rday
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1:12 p.m.
On 08/26/15 09:54, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
<<>>
is there somewhere an explanation of versioning and packaging
workflow?
.
for a serious answer this time, i would imagine you would find an
authoritative answer on dev list.
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2:21 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 04:43:31 -0400 (EDT)
"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday(a)crashcourse.ca> wrote:
once again regarding docker (but really a more general query), i'm
trying to clarify the various sources of fedora packages WRT which
release/update/testing/rawhide version they correspond to.
for example, i'm assuming that the following URL is the absolutely
top level of all possible packages for fedora in all its
current incarnations:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/
is that a fair statement? so i just want to clarify the subdirectories
there. first, i'm assuming that:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/
represents the contents as they were distributed at the time of
official release, yes?
next, i'm guessing that "updates/":
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/
Right. all correct.
represents only *normal* package updates for each official release,
so
that ".../updates/22/" are package updates for f22, etc. i also see
".../updates/23"; i assume those would be updates for the current f23
release and test candidates, is that right?
Actually if you look closely, you will see that the updates/23 repos
are all valid, but empty. They will not have any packages in them until
right before Fedora 23 is released, at which time they will get the '0
day' updates and then more updates as they are released.
then there's the "updates/testing" stuff for each
release:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/
representing additional available packages if i choose to enable the
"updates-testing" repo.
and, finally, there's rawhide:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/
if i want to live dangerously.
Yep.
(Although rawhide isn't really that dangerous)
the reason i'm asking this is that i'm trying to collect a
list of
docker-related fedora packages with a brief explanation of what
they're for, and i ran into the following quirk(?).
currently on my "updates-testing"-updated f22 system, i have an
installed package named "docker-selinux". but when i went digging
through the fedora package db looking for docker-related stuff:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/*docker*/
that package is not listed there anywhere. it appears in rawhide, and
in f23 updates-testing, so why is there no mention of it in the
package db?
Because the packages app (which was written a number of years ago) has
issues from time to time where it gets stuck. ;(
It's slated to get a pretty big overhall and set of bugfixes in the
next few months, but until then it can be out of date at times. ;(
kevin
2:35 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:21:55 -0600
Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
> the reason i'm asking this is that i'm trying to
collect a list of
> docker-related fedora packages with a brief explanation of what
> they're for, and i ran into the following quirk(?).
>
> currently on my "updates-testing"-updated f22 system, i have an
> installed package named "docker-selinux". but when i went digging
> through the fedora package db looking for docker-related stuff:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/*docker*/
>
> that package is not listed there anywhere. it appears in rawhide,
> and in f23 updates-testing, so why is there no mention of it in the
> package db?
Because the packages app (which was written a number of years ago) has
issues from time to time where it gets stuck. ;(
It's slated to get a pretty big overhall and set of bugfixes in the
next few months, but until then it can be out of date at times. ;(
Whoops. I was reading too fast. I thought you meant:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/
The reason pkgdb doesn't show a docker-selinux package is because there
isn't one. Its not it's own package, it's a subpackage of the
'docker'
package. pkgdb deals with src packages.
So, look instead at packages (with the caveat that it might be a bit
out of date these days):
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/docker-selinux
you can see there it's a subpackage of the docker source package.
Hope that helps...
kevin
2:43 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:21:55 -0600
Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
> > the reason i'm asking this is that i'm trying to collect a list of
> > docker-related fedora packages with a brief explanation of what
> > they're for, and i ran into the following quirk(?).
> >
> > currently on my "updates-testing"-updated f22 system, i have an
> > installed package named "docker-selinux". but when i went digging
> > through the fedora package db looking for docker-related stuff:
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/*docker*/
> >
> > that package is not listed there anywhere. it appears in rawhide,
> > and in f23 updates-testing, so why is there no mention of it in the
> > package db?
>
> Because the packages app (which was written a number of years ago) has
> issues from time to time where it gets stuck. ;(
>
> It's slated to get a pretty big overhall and set of bugfixes in the
> next few months, but until then it can be out of date at times. ;(
Whoops. I was reading too fast. I thought you meant:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/
The reason pkgdb doesn't show a docker-selinux package is because there
isn't one. Its not it's own package, it's a subpackage of the
'docker'
package. pkgdb deals with src packages.
So, look instead at packages (with the caveat that it might be a bit
out of date these days):
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/docker-selinux
you can see there it's a subpackage of the docker source package.
Hope that helps...
yup, thanks.
rday
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