On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 11:06, rhllist(a)assursys.co.uk wrote: Was this enabled in RH9? Because it did get worse; if that didn't change, then it's something else I need to fix. Also, isn't using the bytecode interpreter illegal in the US without a rather expensive license? -- Sean Middleditch <elanthis(a)awesomeplay.com&gt; AwesomePlay Productions, Inc.

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 18:35, Sean Middleditch wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100862 Is a bug report on the subject of "worse font rendering", though it doesn't really sound like your bug report. One of the problems reported there - the lowercase g in Luxi Mono is concrete and probably fixable with some attention to exactly what is going on in the hinting process, but the rest of the report os Comparative screenshots are extremely useful. I'd love to see someone spend some time to get screenshoots that did comparisons of: Red Hat 8, Red Hat 9, Severn For the default Sans, Serif, Monospace, and at least the default rendering mode "Best Shapes". I want to create a page about fonts in Red Hat Linux once the web page returns, and that would be great information to have there. Usually changes in rendering are due to subtle changes in FreeType - Severn has 2.1.4, Red Hat 9 2.1.3, and fixing the problem can be a fairly time-consuming process of going in and adjusting either the fonts or the hinting process in FreeType. I spent a lot of time on this for Red Hat 8, but since then, I've mostly been going with the flow of whatever changes get into upstream FreeType. But at least if it's narrowed down to something concrete with a screenshot "the lowercase g has this weird shape", then it's a lot more feasible to fix than a general "fonts look worse". I've never found sub-pixel smoothing to actually improve things; either it is too subtle to be noticable or the color fringing is objectionable. I don't use it on my LCD. Regards, Owen

On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 05:28:08PM -0600, Stephen Smoogen wrote: FWIW the sub-pixel rendering on Red Hat looks far worse than on Windows XP. I don't know what MS ClearType is doing differently, but it looks *fantastic* on my Dell Inspiron 5000e (1600x1200 15" screen, so IIRC it's 133-134dpi or so). The color fringing is much more noticeable with Red Hat than with WinXP, but I think the sub-pixel rendering is probably still the best-looking mode on this display. -Barry K. Nathan <barryn(a)pobox.com&gt;