On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 13:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/24/20 1:51 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

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When installing another DE on top of Fedora Workstation I am getting an error and I don't know how to fix it.

I am using Fedora workstation which game with Gnome, but I installed XFCE on top of it because I don't use gnome for anything.

I am trying to install Mate and I am getting these errors and don't know what its wanting.. How do I fix this?

Problem: problem with installed package fedora-release-workstation- 31- 2.noarch

• package fedora-release-workstation-31-2.noarch conflicts with

system-release provided by fedora-release-matecompiz-31-1.noarch

Each environment group wants to include its own release file. The following command should work by ignoring the new release file: dnf install @mate-desktop-environment --skip-broken _______________________________________________

I am just making sure everything is okay..... I got a few errors at the top

[chris@localhost ~]$ sudo dnf install @mate-desktop-environment --skip- broken [sudo] password for chris: Last metadata expiration check: 1:08:57 ago on Tue 24 Mar 2020 02:52:30 PM CDT. No match for group package "libva-vaapi-driver" No match for group package "xorg-x11-drv-omap" No match for group package "isdn4k-utils" No match for group package "xorg-x11-drv-armsoc" No match for group package "powerpc-utils" No match for group package "lsvpd" No match for group package "fedora-release-notes" Dependencies resolved.

Problem: problem with installed package fedora-release-workstation-31- 2.noarch - package fedora-release-workstation-31-2.noarch conflicts with system-release provided by fedora-release-matecompiz-31-2.noarch - package fedora-release-matecompiz-31-2.noarch conflicts with system-release provided by fedora-release-workstation-31-2.noarch - package fedora-release-matecompiz-31-2.noarch conflicts with system-release provided by fedora-release-workstation-31-1.noarch - package fedora-release-workstation-31-1.noarch conflicts with system-release provided by fedora-release-matecompiz-31-2.noarch - cannot install the best candidate for the job ======================================================================= ========= Package Arch Version Repository Size ======================================================================= ========= Installing group/module packages: NetworkManager-ovs x86_64 1:1.20.10- 1.fc31 updates 38 k atril x86_64 1.22.3- 1.fc31 updates 1.2 M atril-caja x86_64 1.22.3- 1.fc31 updates 20 k atril-thumbnailer x86_64 1.22.3- 1.fc31 updates 8.8 k blivet-gui noarch 2.1.12- 1.fc31 updates 12 k caja x86_64 1.22.3- 1.fc31 updates 1.4 M caja-actions x86_64 1.8.3- 9.fc31 fedora 450 k caja-image-converter x86_64 1.22.1- 1.fc31 fedora 24 k caja-open-terminal x86_64 1.22.1- 1.fc31 fedora 21 k caja-sendto x86_64 1.22.1- 1.fc31 fedora 67 k caja-wallpaper x86_64 1.22.1- 1.fc31 fedora 15 k caja-xattr-tags x86_64 1.22.1- 1.fc31 fedora 15 k dconf-editor x86_64 3.34.4- 1.fc31 updates 647 k ed x86_64 1.14.2- 7.fc31 fedora 76 k engrampa x86_64 1.22.3- 2.fc31 updates 1.3 M eom x86_64 1.22.2- 1.fc31 fedora 1.9 M exaile noarch 4.0.0- 3.fc31 fedora 1.7 M f31-backgrounds-extras-base noarch 31.0.4- 1.fc31 updates 150 M f31-backgrounds-extras-mate noarch 31.0.4- 1.fc31 updates 8.5 k filezilla x86_64 3.45.1- 1.fc31 fedora 4.7 M firefox x86_64 74.0- 3.fc31 updates 101 M gnome-epub-thumbnailer x86_64 1.6- 1.fc31 updates 28 k gnote x86_64 3.34.2- 1.fc31 updates 3.8 M grubby x86_64 8.40- 36.fc31 fedora 38 k gstreamer1-libav x86_64 1.16.2-3.fc31 rpmfusion- free-updates

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Installing Groups: Administration Tools base- x

Core

Dial-up Networking Support Fonts

Guest Desktop Agents Hardware Support Input Methods

MATE

Multimedia

Common NetworkManager Submodules Printing Support Standard

Skipping packages with conflicts: (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade): fedora-release-matecompiz noarch 31- 2 updates 12 k fedora-release-workstation noarch 31- 1 fedora 13 k

Transaction Summary ======================================================================= ========= Install 189 Packages Skip 2 Packages

Total download size: 550 M Installed size: 1.5 G Is this ok [y/N]:

On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 14:26 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/24/20 2:04 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

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I am just making sure everything is okay..... I got a few errors at the top

[chris@localhost ~]$ sudo dnf install @mate-desktop-environment -- skip- broken [sudo] password for chris: Last metadata expiration check: 1:08:57 ago on Tue 24 Mar 2020 02:52:30 PM CDT. No match for group package "libva-vaapi-driver"

[...snip...]

...

Dependencies resolved.

There are some packages included in the group that don't exist any more and should be removed. You can ignore this.

...

Problem: problem with installed package fedora-release- workstation-31- 2.noarch

• package fedora-release-workstation-31-2.noarch conflicts with

system-release provided by fedora-release-matecompiz-31-2.noarch

This is still the same problem, but will be skipped at the end.

...

Skipping packages with conflicts: (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade): fedora-release-matecompiz noarch 31- 2 updates 12 k fedora-release-workstation noarch 31- 1 fedora 13 k

The conflict is skipped, the mate release package won't be installed. It's all good. _______________________________________________

Thanks that worked!

One last thing... What is the command to remove Mate if I ever decide that its not for me?

On 3/24/20 4:42 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 17:14 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

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One last thing... What is the command to remove Mate if I ever decide that its not for me?

That is a more difficult process.

Would this be the command I use to remove Mate if I needed to?

$ sudo dnf groupremove -y "MATE" $ sudo dnf remove -y mate-*

I know you had me install it with sudo dnf install @mate-desktop- environment --skip-broken-packages

If you do it soon, you could probably rollback the dnf transaction. Otherwise, you could try "dnf remove @mate-desktop-environment". Just beware of it removing more than you want. Those two commands you suggested might cleanup a lot of the pieces, but again, check the remove list carefully.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:59 PM Christopher Marlow fedora@cwm030.com wrote:

On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 19:38 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:

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On 3/24/20 4:42 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

...

On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 17:14 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

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One last thing... What is the command to remove Mate if I ever decide that its not for me?

That is a more difficult process.

...

Would this be the command I use to remove Mate if I needed to?

$ sudo dnf groupremove -y "MATE" $ sudo dnf remove -y mate-*

I know you had me install it with sudo dnf install @mate-desktop- environment --skip-broken-packages

If you do it soon, you could probably rollback the dnf transaction. Otherwise, you could try "dnf remove @mate-desktop- environment". Just beware of it removing more than you want. Those two commands you suggested might cleanup a lot of the pieces, but again, check the remove list carefully. _______________________________________________

I decided to stick with XFCE and I removed mate... But I cant figure out how to get back to using Light DM..

https://imgur.com/a/aTyZUfp

I ran these commands:

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2018/fedora-switch-display-manager/

( top of page )

and rebooted but my PC is still using GDM even though I ran the disable GDM command.

I haven't followed this whole thread so hopefully you haven't already check this...

Did you do anything manually, like setting up service files or manually creating symbolic links in /etc/systemd/system? If so, that would override what's in /usr/lib/systemd/system.

Thanks, Richard

What does this show for you?

$ systemctl cat display-manager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service [Unit] Description=GNOME Display Manager

# replaces the getty Conflicts=getty@tty1.service After=getty@tty1.service

# replaces plymouth-quit since it quits plymouth on its own Conflicts=plymouth-quit.service After=plymouth-quit.service

# Needs all the dependencies of the services it's replacing # pulled from getty@.service and plymouth-quit.service # (except for plymouth-quit-wait.service since it waits until # plymouth is quit, which we do) After=rc-local.service plymouth-start.service systemd-user-sessions.service

# GDM takes responsibility for stopping plymouth, so if it fails # for any reason, make sure plymouth still stops OnFailure=plymouth-quit.service

[Service] ExecStart=/usr/sbin/gdm KillMode=mixed Restart=always IgnoreSIGPIPE=no BusName=org.gnome.DisplayManager StandardOutput=syslog StandardError=inherit EnvironmentFile=-/etc/locale.conf ExecReload=/bin/kill -SIGHUP $MAINPID KeyringMode=shared

[Install] Alias=display-manager.service

$ file /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service: symbolic link to /usr/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service

As you can see on my system display-manager.service is a symbolic link to gdm (Gnome Display Manager). Obviously that should be pointing to LightDM instead...

Thanks, Richard

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:53 PM Christopher Marlow fedora@cwm030.com wrote:

On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 10:51 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:

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What does this show for you?

$ systemctl cat display-manager.service

[chris@localhost ~]$ systemctl cat display-manager.service

...

[Service] ExecStart=/usr/sbin/gdm

So your system is setup to use Gnome DM. What's the full output when you (via sudo or root) type:

# systemctl enable lightdm

?

Thanks, Richard

On 03/25/2020 01:19 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

[chris@localhost ~]$ sudo systemctl enable lightdm [sudo] password for chris: Failed to enable unit: File /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service already exists and is a symlink to /usr/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service. [chris@localhost ~]$

If memory serves, disabling gdm isn't enough; you have to mask it as well. Then, you can enable and start lightdm.

On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 15:47 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 20-03-25 14:42:25, Richard Shaw wrote: ...

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# systemctl enable lightdm

systemctl --force enable lightdm

-- ____________________________________________________________________

[chris@localhost ~]$ systemctl --force enable lightdm

Removed /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service.

Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service → /usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service.

chris@localhost ~]$

Chris Chris@CWM030.com