Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Thanks James Harrison
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
I have an nvidia video card built in to my mother board.
I had to use system-config-display to create one.
The system would not detect my Viewsonic 90 monitor, so I only had 800x600 screen resolution. I had to manually select it the monitor.
Its OK now though. I got it working at 1280x1024
James
________________________________ From: Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to To: James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:01:12 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 17:04 +0000, James Harrison wrote:
I have an nvidia video card built in to my mother board.
I had to use system-config-display to create one.
The system would not detect my Viewsonic 90 monitor, so I only had 800x600 screen resolution. I had to manually select it the monitor.
Its OK now though. I got it working at 1280x1024
You need to go to bugzilla and file a bug against xorg to show that your monitor wasn't found. You may need to have a copy of your xorg.conf file (since you have one now), and xorg.log file and attach them both. That way that problemw will get fixed for future.
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 17:04:34 James Harrison wrote:
I have an nvidia video card built in to my mother board.
I had to use system-config-display to create one.
The system would not detect my Viewsonic 90 monitor, so I only had 800x600 screen resolution. I had to manually select it the monitor.
Its OK now though. I got it working at 1280x1024
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 17:21 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
O I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Maybe that is the problem, they are "new"? Well, don't know how new, but not everything gets detected and/or specs into whatever package so they are detected. I would file a bug against hwdata (not sure if that is the case for auto detection nowadays) if it's not found when adding it manually.
Ive had the monitor for 6 or 7 years and the monitor is a recognised model supported by system-config-display.
I will set up a bugzilla bug for this.
Thanks for all help.
James
________________________________ From: Mike Chambers mike@miketc.net To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:32:17 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 17:21 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
O I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Maybe that is the problem, they are "new"? Well, don't know how new, but not everything gets detected and/or specs into whatever package so they are detected. I would file a bug against hwdata (not sure if that is the case for auto detection nowadays) if it's not found when adding it manually.
Anne Wilson wrote:
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
I suspect that some models do not provide the correct information. Then there is my VA912b that works fine with Linux, but I have to use a setup disk to use it with Windows.
Mikkel
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:02 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
I suspect that some models do not provide the correct information. Then there is my VA912b that works fine with Linux, but I have to use a setup disk to use it with Windows.
---- or if you use a KVM or if you don't use the cable that came with the monitor or a loose connection or...so many things can interfere with detection.
Craig
I do use a KVM.....
James
________________________________ From: Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:14:26 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:02 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
I suspect that some models do not provide the correct information. Then there is my VA912b that works fine with Linux, but I have to use a setup disk to use it with Windows.
---- or if you use a KVM or if you don't use the cable that came with the monitor or a loose connection or...so many things can interfere with detection.
Craig
There you go...
Probably not realistic to expect auto-detection to identify your display because it doesn't see your display, only the KVM. If you report anything, report the data from your KVM.
Craig
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 18:16 +0000, James Harrison wrote:
I do use a KVM.....
James
From: Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:14:26 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:02 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors?
I bought a
new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to
manually set
it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
I suspect that some models do not provide the correct information. Then there is my VA912b that works fine with Linux, but I have to use a setup disk to use it with Windows.
or if you use a KVM or if you don't use the cable that came with the monitor or a loose connection or...so many things can interfere with detection.
Craig
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I also tried 'Xorg -configure :1'
It failed, but left me with an xorg.conf.new file with 20 or so screens and cards. Is this the KVMs fault?
Thanks, James
________________________________ From: Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:21:04 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
There you go...
Probably not realistic to expect auto-detection to identify your display because it doesn't see your display, only the KVM. If you report anything, report the data from your KVM.
Craig
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 18:16 +0000, James Harrison wrote:
I do use a KVM.....
James
From: Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:14:26 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:02 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors?
I bought a
new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to
manually set
it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
I suspect that some models do not provide the correct information. Then there is my VA912b that works fine with Linux, but I have to use a setup disk to use it with Windows.
or if you use a KVM or if you don't use the cable that came with the monitor or a loose connection or...so many things can interfere with detection.
Craig
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James Harrison wrote:
I also tried 'Xorg -configure :1'
It failed, but left me with an xorg.conf.new file with 20 or so screens and cards. Is this the KVMs fault?
Try removing the KVM from the picture, by connecting the monitor directly to th machine. Does this then work ? If it does, then it is the KVM that is your problem.
Chris
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 18:14:26 Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:02 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
I wonder if there is something strange about Viewsonic monitors? I bought a new one last year and it's attached to my CentOS box. I had to manually set it up, too. Very odd, for a new model.
Anne
I suspect that some models do not provide the correct information. Then there is my VA912b that works fine with Linux, but I have to use a setup disk to use it with Windows.
or if you use a KVM or if you don't use the cable that came with the monitor or a loose connection or...so many things can interfere with detection.
I don't use a KVM. I tend towards Mikkel's theory. I couldn't get it to work at all with the digital lead (can't remember the details) and had to go back to analogue. I don't have any windows there, so I've no idea whether it would have worked with that at all. One thing's for sure, I'll not be buying another Viewsonic.
Anne
if you install system-config-display ( and run ) this will build xorg.conf
Regards,
- - iarly selbir ( ski0s )
:wq!
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
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I did that. Any idea why I didnt work for me. What info do you need?
Motherboard is a ASUS M2A-VM. Viewsonic 90+ monitor, Fedora 10, fully patched
James
________________________________ From: iarly selbir iarlyy@gmail.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:06:56 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
if you install system-config-display ( and run ) this will build xorg.conf
Regards,
- - iarly selbir ( ski0s )
:wq!
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:01:12 -0600 Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
From wikiquote (including footnote), the famous philosopher Yogi Berra
is supposed to have said:
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. * This has also been attributed to computer scientist Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut and scientist Albert Einstein."
-- cmg (who once saw Yogi hit a home run on a pitch that was actually in the strike zone)
Hi Caroll and welcome
If your monitor and keyboard setup are recognized by X, thorough the new nefarious ways, then you do not need to have an xorg.conf. If you need something non-basic, then you may choose to download and run system-config-display (A gui version will appear in Gnome) or you may choose to create your own xorg.conf.
I for one had to create one for my system.
Regards
Leslie
--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Carroll Grigsby cgrigs@earthlink.net wrote: From: Carroll Grigsby cgrigs@earthlink.net Subject: Re: xorg.conf To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:01:12 -0600 Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
From wikiquote (including footnote), the famous philosopher Yogi Berra
is supposed to have said:
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. * This has also been attributed to computer scientist Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut and scientist Albert Einstein."
-- cmg (who once saw Yogi hit a home run on a pitch that was actually in the strike zone)
I was only getting 800x600 on my screen and I needed to make it 1280x1024.
I had to use system-config-display. Xorg -configure did not work. I got an error message. The low resolution was probably because I am using a KVM.
Thanks,
James Harrison
________________________________ From: Leslie Satenstein lsatenstein@yahoo.com To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:06:41 PM Subject: Re: xorg.conf
Hi Caroll and welcome
If your monitor and keyboard setup are recognized by X, thorough the new nefarious ways, then you do not need to have an xorg.conf. If you need something non-basic, then you may choose to download and run system-config-display (A gui version will appear in Gnome) or you may choose to create your own xorg.conf.
I for one had to create one for my system.
Regards
Leslie
--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Carroll Grigsby cgrigs@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Carroll Grigsby cgrigs@earthlink.net Subject: Re: xorg.conf To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:01:12 -0600 Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 16:49:18 +0000, James Harrison jamesaharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because in theory it doesn't need to.
From wikiquote (including footnote), the famous philosopher Yogi Berra
is supposed to have said:
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. * This has also been attributed to computer scientist Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut and scientist Albert Einstein."
-- cmg (who once saw Yogi hit a home run on a pitch that was actually in the strike zone)
James Harrison ha scritto:
I was only getting 800x600 on my screen and I needed to make it 1280x1024.
vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit the line "Modes" in the section "Screen".
I think you should have something like this:
Modes "800x600" "640x480" try to modify in: Modes "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480"
HTH
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 16:49 +0000, James Harrison wrote:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
---- I think that the general concept is:
- The build on the fly works for most hardware - The build on the fly adjusts when hardware changes by itself - That most of the settings can be user controlled in GNOME or KDE
Nothing stops you from creating one of course, either by hand or by installing 'system-config-display' and using that tool to create it.
Craig
Em Qua 21 Jan 2009, James Harrison escreveu:
Hello, I am new to the list (I joined today).
Can someone tell me why Fedora 10 does not create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf as standard?
Because the current version of xorg is supposed to detect automatically the hardware and get all the necessary configuration data by itself. This allows the user to change the hardware without needing to edit configuration files, among other advantages. Of course, this does not work in 100% of the cases. You can run system- config-display to generate xorg.conf and then edit it manually if the automatic procedure fails to detect your hardware correctly.
[]'s Marcelo
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