6:39 p.m.
Hi All,
Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
are unaffected.
This is the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
Many thanks,
-T
6:50 p.m.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:39:27 -0800
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
I use claws-mail for everything, it talks to my local
covecot IMAP server (which is filled from all my email
accounts via fetchmail). I did have to put this line
in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css to keep it from putting
lots of black text on a dark blue background:
.gtkstyle-fallback:selected { color: #ffffff; background-color: #bddafc; }
(that was apparently a new style in f35).
9:19 p.m.
On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 19:50 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
I use claws-mail for everything, it talks to my local
covecot IMAP server (which is filled from all my email
accounts via fetchmail).
I'm almost the same. Fetchmail drags my mail in, Dovecot is my mail
server, but Evolution is my mail client. I've found fetchmail is very
good at dealing with many different types of mail servers, including
badly set up ones.
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7:31 p.m.
ToddAndMargo,
On 2021-12-16 11:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
are unaffected.
This is the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
If you want to go old school . . mutt . .
However, I stopped using TB a long time ago in favour of RoundCubeMail .
. but I _really_ wanted to use Maildirs and get away from one big file
for each contact . .
P.
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10:42 p.m.
On 12/15/21 16:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
are unaffected.
When did this start? It really sounds like Zoho is doing something
weird on their end. As a possible workaround, I saw on another report
about this issue with Zoho that taking Thunderbird offline and then back
online works without restarting. It seems that something is going wrong
with the connection.
In the Server Settings for the account, try unchecking the "Allow
immediate server notifications". I think that should disable "push"
which is a potential problem area. If that doesn't work, then in the
Advanced server settings, try setting cached connections to 1.
11:25 p.m.
---- On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 20:42:57 -0800 Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote ----
When did this start?
Yesterday.
Downgrading to thunderbird-91.2.0-1.fc33.x86_64 and then to
thunderbird-78.10.1-1.fc32.x86_64 did not help
Me thinks it is zoho's doing
What do you think of Evolution or Geary as an temp alternative?
My threads have been on one for years.
I will check the immediate thingg in a bit
12:07 a.m.
On 12/15/21 21:25, toddandmargo via users wrote:
---- On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 20:42:57 -0800 Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote ----
> When did this start?
Yesterday.
Downgrading to thunderbird-91.2.0-1.fc33.x86_64 and then to
thunderbird-78.10.1-1.fc32.x86_64 did not help
Me thinks it is zoho's doing
I agree.
What do you think of Evolution or Geary as an temp alternative?
I used Evolution for many years to access my Work Exchange email. It's
not bad, but I do prefer Thunderbird.
2:29 a.m.
---- On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:39:27 -0800 ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com> wrote
----
Hi All,
Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
are unaffected.
This is the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
Many thanks,
-T
geary-40.0-3.fc35.x86_64 has the same problem
5:37 a.m.
On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 16:39 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
are unaffected.
This is the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
Everyone will have their own favourite. In may case it's Evolution,
which I've been using for over 10 years. It's an integral part of Gnome
(though I run it under KDE/Plasma). The principal developer uses Fedora
and is very responsive to bug reports and queries:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
poc
6:33 p.m.
On 12/16/21 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 16:39 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 35
> thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
>
> Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
> accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
> It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
> are unaffected.
>
> This is the bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
>
> Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
> imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
Everyone will have their own favourite. In may case it's Evolution,
which I've been using for over 10 years. It's an integral part of Gnome
(though I run it under KDE/Plasma). The principal developer uses Fedora
and is very responsive to bug reports and queries:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
poc
It was a toss up for Geary and Evolution. I read in
the Fedora magazine that Evolution did not have great
iMap resources, so I went with Geary.
Geary has the layout of gMail's web client. I really
do not care for it. But it works.
Zoho fixed their stuff this morning and Thunderbird
is working again
5:43 a.m.
On Thu, 2021-12-16 at 16:33 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 12/16/21 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 16:39 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Fedora 35
> > thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
> >
> > Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
> > accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
> > It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
> > are unaffected.
> >
> > This is the bug:
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
> >
> > Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
> > imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
>
> Everyone will have their own favourite. In may case it's Evolution,
> which I've been using for over 10 years. It's an integral part of
> Gnome
> (though I run it under KDE/Plasma). The principal developer uses
> Fedora
> and is very responsive to bug reports and queries:
>
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
>
> poc
It was a toss up for Geary and Evolution. I read in
the Fedora magazine that Evolution did not have great
iMap resources, so I went with Geary.
I've no idea what that means. Could you provide a reference? Evolution
has extensive IMAP support, in fact it's primarily an IMAP client
although it also supports POP and EWS.
poc
2:05 p.m.
On 12/17/21 03:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2021-12-16 at 16:33 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 12/16/21 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 16:39 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Fedora 35
>>> thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
>>>
>>> Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
>>> accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
>>> It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
>>> are unaffected.
>>>
>>> This is the bug:
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
>>>
>>> Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
>>> imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
>>
>> Everyone will have their own favourite. In may case it's Evolution,
>> which I've been using for over 10 years. It's an integral part of
>> Gnome
>> (though I run it under KDE/Plasma). The principal developer uses
>> Fedora
>> and is very responsive to bug reports and queries:
>>
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
>>
>> poc
>
> It was a toss up for Geary and Evolution. I read in
> the Fedora magazine that Evolution did not have great
> iMap resources, so I went with Geary.
>
I've no idea what that means. Could you provide a reference? Evolution
has extensive IMAP support, in fact it's primarily an IMAP client
although it also supports POP and EWS.
poc
https://fedoramagazine.org/email-clients-fedora/
Cons: IMAP support not as good compared Thunderbird
Since the issue was imap and Thunderbird, I tried Geary.
4:50 p.m.
On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 12:05 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I've no idea what that means. Could you provide a
reference?
> Evolution
> has extensive IMAP support, in fact it's primarily an IMAP client
> although it also supports POP and EWS.
>
> poc
https://fedoramagazine.org/email-clients-fedora/
Cons: IMAP support not as good compared Thunderbird
That article is 5 years old. Evolution has had around 10 major version
releases since then. Furthermore, the article simply makes a bald
assertion that Evolution is not as good an IMAP client as Thunderbird,
without any supporting arguments or data. To cap it all, Geary is
described without any reference to IMAP.
I'm afraid I don't find any of this persuasive if you're asking about
IMAP clients on Fedora.
poc
1:51 a.m.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 22:50:03 +0000
Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That article is 5 years old. Evolution has had around 10 major
version
releases since then. Furthermore, the article simply makes a bald
assertion that Evolution is not as good an IMAP client as Thunderbird,
without any supporting arguments or data.
I fully agree!
Moreover, Evolution is very functional out-of-the-box, while with the
Thunderbird one has to deploy many add-ons to achive similar/same functionality
(still no proper support for external editor in TB).
Sincerely,
Gour
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2:12 a.m.
On 18/12/2021 15:51, Saša Janiška wrote:
Moreover, Evolution is very functional out-of-the-box, while with
the
Thunderbird one has to deploy many add-ons to achive similar/same functionality
(still no proper support for external editor in TB).
Other than lack of external editor. What are the many add-ons that you find essential?
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4:11 a.m.
On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 16:12:47 +0800
Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
Other than lack of external editor. What are the many add-ons that
you find essential?
- Provider for CalDAV & CardDAV
- TbSync
- LocalFolders
- Signature Switch
- Remove Duplicate Messages
- Toggle Headers
Sincerely,
Gour
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equal mind.
4:52 a.m.
On 18/12/2021 18:11, Saša Janiška wrote:
On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 16:12:47 +0800
Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
> Other than lack of external editor. What are the many add-ons that
> you find essential?
- Provider for CalDAV & CardDAV
- TbSync
- LocalFolders
- Signature Switch
- Remove Duplicate Messages
- Toggle Headers
Oh, OK, thanks.. I only required "Provider for Google Calendar" and
"Signature Switch".
Ed
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12:24 a.m.
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 7:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users
<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
hi,
this was a bit ago, but i'll throw my votes in for Evolution or Claws
Mail. both are good, though i do prefer Thunderbird.
cheers,
slade
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12:29 a.m.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 16:39:27 -0800
ToddAndMargo via users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
I can recommend Claws-mail (https://claws-mail.org/) which works very
nicely and Fedora has 4.x branch with modern version of Fancy plugin
rendering HTML messages when needed.
For my contacts & calendars I use Evolution (although Thunderbird could
do the job a well) and they are synced with my Android phones (via
DAVx) app and Baikal server which I host on my own.
From time to time, I export e.g. CardDav addressbook from Evolution as
*.vcf files and connect it with the Claws in order to have my contacts
available in Claws' completion.
Sincerely,
Gour
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3:44 a.m.
On 16/12/2021 00:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
are unaffected.
This is the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
Mailspring is yet another decent alternative.
L.
3:23 p.m.
Change the server from imap.zoho.com to imappro.zoho.com. That fixed up
my similar issue on thunderbird, apple mail, and iOS.
On 12/15/21 6:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 35
> thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64
>
> Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
> accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
> It is a pain in the neck. My gMail account
> are unaffected.
>
> This is the bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668
>
> Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
> imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T
>
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