Today we support generating WASM32 as a target and that's all (the line

On 1/23/23 15:58, Michael Dawson wrote: > These are the minutes from the meeting today. I've taken some of what was > discussed in the meeting today and added to the Wiki page under the > existing work initiatives, but I'm hoping each of the Sig members can > update to better capture the specifics of the work/what is already in > place. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/WASM#Existing_Work/Initiatives > > Agenda > > > - Intros > - Communication channels > - Mailing list > - Slack/IRC/etc ? > - Pagure/Wiki > - Capturing existing work/initiatives > - Known Gap > > Minutes > > - Intros > - > > Zuzana - Node.js is using WASM so need to find out what else is > using/needed WASM in Fedora/RHEL > - > > Michael - On the runtimes Node.js team, initial interest based on > Node.js use of WASM as well. > - I couldn't make the meeting, but I'm following up here. I'm a member of the Fedora and RHEL toolchain teams. Rust is using wasm, and bundles wasi-libc in Fedora for their builds. > Milad - Node.js with a focus on keeping V8 going > - > > Ivan - in CTO office at Red Hat leading WASM effort > - > > Jan - Work in same team as Jan, similar interest > - > > Richard - In upstream Node.js project, if there are updates needed in > Node.js upstream then may be involved in that. > > > - Communication channels > - Mailing list > - asked everybody to join new mailing list > - Slack/IRC/etc ? > - Jan, for more complex topics good to keep to mailing list > - Zuzana, good for smaller more one-on-one discussions > - Jan, traditional way to do that is irc, centos discussions are > mostly IRC > - agreement to stick to IRC > - - Pagure/Wiki > - Wiki is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/WASM > - Pagure, idea was somewhere we could get notifications about bugs > - Maybe use something like Trello ? > - Ivan, does seem like some other Sigs use a project in Pagure > and just use for issues. > - https://pagure.io/ContainerSIG/container-sig (lead is from RH > we can reach out to ask about best practice) - Michael > will reach out to > owner to ask about their best practice in terms of managing issue > - https://pagure.io/cloud-sig (lead is also from RH) is a nice > example where top level is the main repo > - Ivan will also ask around a bit to see what he can learn > - Capturing existing work/initiatives > - Jan, working on wasi-libc (Needed to support WASI) > - https://gitlab.com/khx/fedora/wasi-libc, fork of upstream with > some Fedora specific mods. Approach of have a set of commits > that float on > top of upstream. Not sure if we’ll prefer that or regular > repo. Have not > had time for last few months. > - Can compile it > - Can point clang to it > - Not sure if it is in line with any Fedora guidelines etc. Could also be used by rust. I agree the hard part is working through the packaging policy, license, etc. Though these steps all have benefit. > - RH/Fedora devtools team has WASM support in clang for emitting > WASM from C in RHEL 8. ... and RHEL9, and Fedora. Basically Fedora and RHEL. > - would be good to capture what specifically has been made to > support etc. Today we support generating WASM32 as a target and that's all (the line is drawn there). > - Rust support ? Yes. > - Ruby ? > - WASM Edge already supported in Fedora (x86, arm) > - Ivan working on getting WASM Time to get it support in Fedora (x86, > arm and s390x) > - crun with WASM Edge in Fedora > > > > - > > Important uses cases > - > > Compile language from X to WASM with support for WASI > - > > C ( Needed by Node.js) > - > > Rust > - > > possibly Ruby ? > - > > Run WebAssembly within a runtime > - > > Node.js (supported through V8) > - > > Ruby, python etc ? > - > > Compile interpreter to WASM to run in browser > - > > Out of scope > - > > Running WASM containers > > > > - > > What needed for use cases we want to cover to start: > - > > Compile language from X to WASM with support for WASI > - > > compiler support (clang) > - > > wasi-libc > - > > Run WebAssembly within a runtime > - > > Same components as “Compile language from X to WASM with support > for WASI” > - > > WASM engine (V8, wasm-edge, …), Garbage collection is often a > challenge > > > _______________________________________________ > Wasm-sig mailing list -- wasm-sig(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wasm-sig-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/wasm-sig@lists.fedoraprojec... > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Cheers, Carlos.