11:40 p.m.
I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
+1
A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced tab,
which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
One question - what would we do about the older releases?
Sijis
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From: MáirínDuffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:25 PM
To: Fedora Websites Team <websites(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
Hi,
We've gotten some feedback on the new get.fpo design and I think there
are a couple of major mistakes in the design (and I take full
responsibility for them):
- completely lack of live usb documentation
- we link to archives but we don't link to torrents, mirrors, etc etc
etc
Attached is a patch that adds instructions for liveusb to the main page,
and swaps out the archives link in the right sidebar to an 'advanced
users' link that points to get-fedora-all which has a lot of the links
that the more technical folks are complaining aren't there. I've also
attached a screenshot so you can see what some of these changes look
like.
Let me know if there's any issues with this patch. I think that it's
worth applying to address the concerns of the more technical users.
I also think we should consider dropping the architecture tab at some
point. I was going to try to do that in this patch, but it causes a
number of other issues that are a bit too hairy to get into at the
moment and I wanted to get this patch out ASAP.
Thanks,
~m
11:45 p.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On 05/27/2010 10:10 AM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
+1
A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced tab,
which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
One question - what would we do about the older releases?
It appears we don't link to the following still:
* Net installation
* CD set installation
* Jidgo files
* boot.fp.o
Rahu
2:39 a.m.
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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 05/27/2010 10:10 AM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
> +1
>
> A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced
tab, which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
>
> One question - what would we do about the older releases?
>
It appears we don't link to the following still:
* Net installation
* CD set installation
* Jidgo files
* boot.fp.o
Rahu
Rahu -
These patches are suppose to address those issues.
Sijis
2:47 a.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 05/27/2010 01:09 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
>
> These patches are suppose to address those issues.
>
It address linking to torrents and mirrors lists but not others. Correct?
Rahul
One of the things the patch is adding is a section on the right for
"advanced users" and pointing them to
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-all. In that page, you'll see
torrents, boot.fp.o, jidgo, etc.
2:56 a.m.
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On 05/27/2010 01:17 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
One of the things the patch is adding is a section on the right for
"advanced users" and pointing them to
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-all. In that page, you'll see
torrents, boot.fp.o, jidgo, etc.
I dont see boot.fp.o in this page. Also vendors like ZaReason are
shipping Fedora as a OEM and it would be nice to highlight it somewhere
in the website
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-May/012941.html
Rahul
7:46 a.m.
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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 01:26:39PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/27/2010 01:17 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> One of the things the patch is adding is a section on the right for
> "advanced users" and pointing them to
> http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-all. In that page, you'll see
> torrents, boot.fp.o, jidgo, etc.
>
I dont see boot.fp.o in this page. Also vendors like ZaReason are
shipping Fedora as a OEM and it would be nice to highlight it somewhere
in the website
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-May/012941.html
I'm not sure it's a good idea for the official Fedora website to take
up maintenance of an OEM listing. That's better done on the wiki,
where it's easier for the community to update.
--
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7:48 a.m.
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On 05/27/2010 06:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I'm not sure it's a good idea for the official Fedora website
to take
up maintenance of an OEM listing. That's better done on the wiki,
where it's easier for the community to update.
The official website does include the wiki. If you mean static html
pages, a pointer in the appropriate place could guide users to the wiki
with the listing
Rahul
9:43 a.m.
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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:18:45PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/27/2010 06:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> I'm not sure it's a good idea for the official Fedora website to take
> up maintenance of an OEM listing. That's better done on the wiki,
> where it's easier for the community to update.
>
The official website does include the wiki. If you mean static html
pages, a pointer in the appropriate place could guide users to the wiki
with the listing
I used the word "official" incorrectly. But yes, we're agreed -- a
link to the wiki with the listing is what I was suggesting, as opposed
to trying to maintain a very fungible listing in the hosted fedora-web
module.
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8:25 a.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/27/2010 01:17 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> One of the things the patch is adding is a section on the right for
> "advanced users" and pointing them to
> http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-all. In that page, you'll see
> torrents, boot.fp.o, jidgo, etc.
>
I dont see boot.fp.o in this page. Also vendors like ZaReason are
shipping Fedora as a OEM and it would be nice to highlight it somewhere
in the website
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-May/012941.html
Let's fix what people are actually complaining about first.
~m
2:44 a.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis.aviles(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
+1
A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced tab,
which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
One question - what would we do about the older releases?
Sijis
I just looked at the patch and it answers the older release question.
The one thing i did notice was there were a few links to
"http://localhost:5000/get-fedora-all". Those should probably be
changed to "${lang}/get-fedora-all".
Sijis
7:47 a.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:44:02AM -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Sijis Aviles
<sijis.aviles(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
> +1
>
> A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced
tab, which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
>
> One question - what would we do about the older releases?
>
> Sijis
>
I just looked at the patch and it answers the older release question.
The one thing i did notice was there were a few links to
"http://localhost:5000/get-fedora-all". Those should probably be
changed to "${lang}/get-fedora-all".
Don't we use "./get-fedora-all"? That should land in the correct
language for everyohne.
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8:08 a.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On 2010-05-27 08:47:28 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:44:02AM -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Sijis Aviles <sijis.aviles(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
> > +1
> >
> > A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an
advanced tab, which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this
further.
> >
> > One question - what would we do about the older releases?
> >
> > Sijis
> >
>
> I just looked at the patch and it answers the older release question.
>
> The one thing i did notice was there were a few links to
> "http://localhost:5000/get-fedora-all". Those should probably be
> changed to "${lang}/get-fedora-all".
Don't we use "./get-fedora-all"? That should land in the correct
language for everyohne.
We usually use paths relative to /, so the correct
convention would be:
${path}/${lang}/get-fedora-all
We should probably do a check of the current site to make sure we are
consistent with this.
Thanks,
Ricky
8:09 a.m.
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On 2010-05-26 09:40:57 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
+1
A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced tab,
which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
One question - what would we do about the older releases?
+1 as well with the bad
links sijis mentioned changed to
${path}/${lang}/get-fedora-all
Thanks,
Ricky
9:44 a.m.
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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 09:09:20AM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote:
On 2010-05-26 09:40:57 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
> +1
>
> A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced
tab, which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
>
> One question - what would we do about the older releases?
+1 as well with the bad links sijis mentioned changed to
${path}/${lang}/get-fedora-all
Thanks Ricky. I tried to follow existing uses as examples in my
commits, but I apologize if I did anything wrong.
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9:49 a.m.
New subject: More proposed get.fpo adjustments, based on user feedback
On 27/05/10 14:09, Ricky Zhou wrote:
On 2010-05-26 09:40:57 PM, Sijis Aviles wrote:
> I'm all for this. I think the changes are great.
> +1
>
> A quick thought about that architecture tab would be replacing it with an advanced
tab, which would include the stuff in get-fedora-all. We can discuss this further.
>
> One question - what would we do about the older releases?
+1 as well with the bad links sijis mentioned changed to
${path}/${lang}/get-fedora-all
Thanks,
Ricky
Borked link:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
"all download methods" lead to:
http://localhost:5000/get-fedora-all
<li class="webpage-list"><a
href="http://localhost:5000/get-fedora-all">All download
methods</a></li>
Frank
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