7:59 p.m.
Hey everybody,
I've been interested in playing around with moin for a good while and I
finally got around to getting my own server up again so I had the space
and ability to set up my own install to poke around in. So I came up
with a Fedora theme for it (I started with cornicen from the moin
ThemeMarket [1] as a base):
http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/
The mockups I started out with and the theme files are here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/LookAndFeel/WikiNotes
Also note that a lot of mockups have been put together for the wiki over
time; ideas from all of them are in what I came up with:
From Matt Munoz:
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiElements?action=AttachFile&do=get&a...
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiElements?action=AttachFile&do=get&a...
From Jeremy:
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https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2006-December/jpgpTW...
I really like the basic layout of Jeremy's mockup, and I think something
like the large, dark center banner is something we could use on a
non-wiki front page. It reminds me a lot of the www.gnome.org banner
space, which has been helpful for advertising events and releases for
GNOME.
Although I am not 100% happy with the look (needs more cowbell/bling!),
I do think the theme addresses some of my long time usability nags with
our current theme (the placement of the account preferences always
bugged me, for example). I was also looking to come up with a style that
would fit in nicely on another CMS, so maybe we could use the wiki for
being a wiki and have a CMS that is managed more carefully for
non-contributors looking to learn more about Fedora - see the navbar in
the mocks? (not in the theme yet)
I figured I would send this out so more people knew about it (folks have
been helping me out with it this weekend in #fedora-admin). If anybody
has ideas on how to improve it (especially bling-wise :) ) let's discuss it!
~m
[1]
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket#head-755c39b282cccb4c5bf9fad22...
2:34 a.m.
Wow, cool.
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 20:59 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Although I am not 100% happy with the look (needs more
cowbell/bling!),
I do think the theme addresses some of my long time usability nags with
our current theme (the placement of the account preferences always
bugged me, for example).
You took care of one that has long bugged me, the content getting tucked
under the right nav bar. I tested a table layout, and it worked great:
http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/KarstenWade/TableTest
I'm very very very happy with that look. I also like how the text wraps
around the nav element, as seen here;
http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/MairinDuffy
I was also looking to come up with a style that
would fit in nicely on another CMS, so maybe we could use the wiki for
being a wiki and have a CMS that is managed more carefully for
non-contributors looking to learn more about Fedora - see the navbar in
the mocks? (not in the theme yet)
+1 Yes, this design separates the Wiki-ness in a way that we can use it
for multiple faces. Perhaps the Edit etc. tools can be a general tools
area where the Web-app specific tools are displayed.
I notice the "More Actions:" drop-down is missing; is that intentional?
Perhaps it could sneak back into the right-side menu? Or does it belong
with the other action tools?
I figured I would send this out so more people knew about it (folks
have
been helping me out with it this weekend in #fedora-admin). If anybody
has ideas on how to improve it (especially bling-wise :) ) let's discuss it!
One thing that is bothering my eyes is the way the Edit et al tools
bounce when moused-over. The cool highlighting (I like) makes the other
elements shift out of the way when it is activated (I don't like).
The table of contents [[TableOfContents]] is a little plain/unadorned.
It could use something to make it stand out just a bit. Faint border
around it? I'd also like to see the sub-headers not get so much leading
space.
One thing I wonder ... the color of the general paragraph and header
font is a medium gray. I've heard about some advantages to doing that,
and it looks fine for me. I'm wondering how it looks for people with
worse vision than mine. I reckon Paul Frields saw this already, and he
is usually one of my bellwethers in this regard.
Formatting example:
http://wiki.linuxgrrl.com/KarstenWade/FormattingTest
Other feature ideas ...
* Use some of the banner space to display the Fedora News feed; we're
going to be doing a more regular update (daily?), so the content would
be fresher.
* Replace the search with a fancy, AJAX search (with an elegant failure
method) that searches across all Fedora websites. Maybe the fancy AJAX
allows for inline filtering of searches, etc.
cheers - Karsten
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2:40 p.m.
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 00:34 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
The table of contents [[TableOfContents]] is a little
plain/unadorned.
It could use something to make it stand out just a bit. Faint border
around it? I'd also like to see the sub-headers not get so much leading
space.
BTW, as a comparison, I have come to think that the current style in the
Wiki for a ToC is a little much. The background image forces a width to
the table that doesn't flow as well.
For example, I put it on the right in this situation so the image would
push under the navbar. Otherwise, put on the left, it forces the image
to be pushed to the right:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KarstenWade
- Karsten
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