10:46 p.m.
Hi All,
First on the blue rat icon with the X Xfce pop up, where
is the version icon? Why do I have to go to the command
line and RPM to figure out what version I am on?
The version icon should not be so obscured that it is not
instantly accessible.
$ rpm -qa xfce\*
xfce4-session-engines-4.8.1-4.el6.x86_64
Okay, enough bitching (I just crashed and lost all
my work, so I am a bit crabby -- sorry).
Is there FINALLY a new version of Xfce for Scientific
Linux 6.4 (RHEL 6.4 clone)?
For why I want this and why I am in crabby mood, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009665
This crashing is as bad as any Windows machine I have
ever seen. Okay maybe not as bad as Vista or Frankenstein
(W8), but still once a day is pretty bad. Linux should
only crash when you pour coffee on it or kick it over.
Many thanks,
-T
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10:43 a.m.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:46:14 -0700
ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com> wrote:
Hi All,
First on the blue rat icon with the X Xfce pop up, where
is the version icon? Why do I have to go to the command
line and RPM to figure out what version I am on?
The version icon should not be so obscured that it is not
instantly accessible.
Version icon? I'm not sure what you mean...
Put graphically into the icon "4.10" ?
$ rpm -qa xfce\*
xfce4-session-engines-4.8.1-4.el6.x86_64
Okay, enough bitching (I just crashed and lost all
my work, so I am a bit crabby -- sorry).
Is there FINALLY a new version of Xfce for Scientific
Linux 6.4 (RHEL 6.4 clone)?
No.
See:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/epel-devel/2013-September/00871...
For why I want this and why I am in crabby mood, see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009665
This crashing is as bad as any Windows machine I have
ever seen. Okay maybe not as bad as Vista or Frankenstein
(W8), but still once a day is pretty bad. Linux should
only crash when you pour coffee on it or kick it over.
Can you get a login on a vty when this happens?
Control-alt-f2
If so, look in ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
kevin
2:55 p.m.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:43:33 -0600
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:46:14 -0700
ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> First on the blue rat icon with the X Xfce pop up, where
> is the version icon? Why do I have to go to the command
> line and RPM to figure out what version I am on?
> The version icon should not be so obscured that it is not
> instantly accessible.
Version icon? I'm not sure what you mean...
Put graphically into the icon "4.10" ?
> $ rpm -qa xfce\*
> xfce4-session-engines-4.8.1-4.el6.x86_64
>
> Okay, enough bitching (I just crashed and lost all
> my work, so I am a bit crabby -- sorry).
>
> Is there FINALLY a new version of Xfce for Scientific
> Linux 6.4 (RHEL 6.4 clone)?
No.
See:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/epel-devel/2013-September/00871...
Yes, since I'm quite used to 4.10 from fedora, I tried building it myself,
but gave up around the gir hell. Rebuilding glib2 is fine, but rebuilding
half of gtk2 stack because of gir is plain pain in the a.s. Would be nice
thought to raise that question again if rhel 6.5 sees an update to these
components, which I don't know (is there a release date yet for rhel 6.5?).
On that note, have I just missed it in the repos or are the places panel
plugin and keyboard switch plugin missing in epel? I got ibus working but it
can switch only between English and Japanese, but I also need an easy and
quick way to switch to and from Czech keyboard layout.
Thanks,
Martin
PS: Sorry for thread hijack, I'm kinda too tired to start a new one.
7:38 p.m.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:55:20 +0200
Martin Sourada <martin.sourada(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, since I'm quite used to 4.10 from fedora, I tried building
it
myself, but gave up around the gir hell. Rebuilding glib2 is fine,
but rebuilding half of gtk2 stack because of gir is plain pain in the
a.s. Would be nice thought to raise that question again if rhel 6.5
sees an update to these components, which I don't know (is there a
release date yet for rhel 6.5?).
No idea. I suspect they wouldn't be upgrading something as basic as
glib2 tho.
On that note, have I just missed it in the repos or are the places
panel plugin and keyboard switch plugin missing in epel? I got ibus
working but it can switch only between English and Japanese, but I
also need an easy and quick way to switch to and from Czech keyboard
layout.
They may be. If they work with the version in epel, I'd be happy to
branch and (co)maintain them.
PS: Sorry for thread hijack, I'm kinda too tired to start a new
one.
No worries.
kevin
1:37 a.m.
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:38:44 -0600
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On that note, have I just missed it in the repos or are the
places
> panel plugin and keyboard switch plugin missing in epel? I got ibus
> working but it can switch only between English and Japanese, but I
> also need an easy and quick way to switch to and from Czech keyboard
> layout.
They may be. If they work with the version in epel, I'd be happy to
branch and (co)maintain them.
xfce4-xkb-plugin is buildable in version
0.5.3.3-6.fc15, just a small change
so that the xklavier patch (centos 6 has xklavier 4) applies.
$ diff xfce4-xkb-plugin.spec xfce4-xkb-plugin.spec.new
35c35
< %if 0%{?fedora} > 11
---
%if 0%{?fedora} > 11 || 0%{?rhel} >= 6
It seems to work correctly (layouts are present, short-cut for switching
works).
xfce4-places-plugins rebuilds fine with the f20 version. It seems to work,
but opens menu in the top-right corner. I'll see if the issue persist after
log-out/log-in.
Martin
12:11 p.m.
On 09/24/2013 08:43 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:46:14 -0700
ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> First on the blue rat icon with the X Xfce pop up, where
> is the version icon? Why do I have to go to the command
> line and RPM to figure out what version I am on?
> The version icon should not be so obscured that it is not
> instantly accessible.
Version icon? I'm not sure what you mean...
Put graphically into the icon "4.10" ?
Launcher 2 has an "X" across a rat. When you click
on it, up pop various settings. Notably missing is
"About Xfce", which should tell you all the revisions
of what you are running
> $ rpm -qa xfce\*
> xfce4-session-engines-4.8.1-4.el6.x86_64
>
> Okay, enough bitching (I just crashed and lost all
> my work, so I am a bit crabby -- sorry).
>
> Is there FINALLY a new version of Xfce for Scientific
> Linux 6.4 (RHEL 6.4 clone)?
No.
See:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/epel-devel/2013-September/00871...
From the link: "Additionally, I think a number of components in
RHEL6 are too old for Xfce 4.10 to build/work."
Why in the world would you use code that would only run on
bleeding edge systems? Xfce is suppose to run on as many
Linux systems as possible. And, Xfce is perfect for a
server. This is very annoying to those of use that love Xfce.
> For why I want this and why I am in crabby mood, see
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009665
>
> This crashing is as bad as any Windows machine I have
> ever seen. Okay maybe not as bad as Vista or Frankenstein
> (W8), but still once a day is pretty bad. Linux should
> only crash when you pour coffee on it or kick it over.
Can you get a login on a vty when this happens?
Control-alt-f2
I love that keystroke. I found out about it the first
time I screwed up my rc.5d boot sequence and froze up.
Unfortunately, this does not work. I have also, out
of desperation, try every combination of <ctr><alt><fx>,
and with and without both special keys and f keys and regular
numbers. Nothing.
But VLC still plays away in the back ground.
If so, look in ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
kevin
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Computers are like air conditioners.
They malfunction when you open windows
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
4:51 p.m.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:11:44 -0700
ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> Version icon? I'm not sure what you mean...
>
> Put graphically into the icon "4.10" ?
Launcher 2 has an "X" across a rat. When you click
on it, up pop various settings. Notably missing is
"About Xfce", which should tell you all the revisions
of what you are running
Launcher 2?
Sounds like a bug/feature request for it?
From the link: "Additionally, I think a number of components
in
RHEL6 are too old for Xfce 4.10 to build/work."
Why in the world would you use code that would only run on
bleeding edge systems? Xfce is suppose to run on as many
Linux systems as possible. And, Xfce is perfect for a
server. This is very annoying to those of use that love Xfce.
Feel free to take this up with upstream.
kevin
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