2:11 p.m.
Hey folks.
Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
it never got a 4.12 release.
it still uses gstreamer-0.1x
it has a bunch of bugs outstanding upstream
Does anyone see a need for it to stay around?
kevin
2:39 p.m.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
Hey folks.
Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
it never got a 4.12 release.
it still uses gstreamer-0.1x
it has a bunch of bugs outstanding upstream
Does anyone see a need for it to stay around?
Not really, I wasn't even aware of the nitty-gritty. xfce4-mixer isn't
even installed on my desktop, and I always use pavucontrol to deal
with sound mixing. It also looks like I'm note using the pulseaudio
plugin but pnmixer instead. The latter is a bit buggy, save for the
fact that its "Mixer" button opens up pavucontrol so all in all works
for me :)
Cheers
2:44 p.m.
Kevin Fenzi wrote on 04/23/18 22:11:
Hey folks.
Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
using this one, didn't know another one existed
> it never got a 4.12 release.
> it still uses gstreamer-0.1x
> it has a bunch of bugs outstanding upstream
>
> Does anyone see a need for it to stay around?
>
> kevin
2:55 p.m.
> It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
> we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
using this one, didn't know another one existed
I don't remember how my system was put together back in Fedora 18, but
among the function keys of my keyboard the audio ones never worked.
That is, until I gave a try to xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, so for this
reason alone I'm now ditching PNMixer :)
PNMixer was probably here by default or ended up in my panel by
accident, and it's a lot more beautiful (subjective opinion of course)
but my desktop experience just improved by switching plugins. Thanks
for even asking about that other one I never heard of and isn't even
on my system.
Cheers
3:27 p.m.
Kevin,
On 2018-04-24 05:11, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Hey folks.
Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
it never got a 4.12 release.
it still uses gstreamer-0.1x
it has a bunch of bugs outstanding upstream
Does anyone see a need for it to stay around?
Every time I upgrade I immediately UNinstall PA and use ALSA only - so I
still depend on xfce4-mixer . .
Thanks,
Phil.
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4:41 p.m.
Philip Rhoades wrote on 04/23/18 23:27:
Kevin,
On 2018-04-24 05:11, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Hey folks.
>
> Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
>
> It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
> we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
> it never got a 4.12 release.
> it still uses gstreamer-0.1x
> it has a bunch of bugs outstanding upstream
>
> Does anyone see a need for it to stay around?
Every time I upgrade I immediately UNinstall PA and use ALSA only - so I
still depend on xfce4-mixer . .
Have you tried pulse lately? I resisted it for years because of
flakiness. Then at some point something stopped supporting pure alsa.
And I gave in to try pulse again. And all is fine since that day
(actually controlling streams separately is an added feature).
So if you don't have some hard requirement, I think you can try out pulse.
> Thanks,
>
> Phil.
>
>
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7:07 p.m.
Aleksandar,
On 2018-04-24 07:41, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote:
Philip Rhoades wrote on 04/23/18 23:27:
> Kevin,
>
>
> On 2018-04-24 05:11, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> Hey folks.
>>
>> Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
>>
>> It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
>> we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
>> it never got a 4.12 release.
>> it still uses gstreamer-0.1x
>> it has a bunch of bugs outstanding upstream
>>
>> Does anyone see a need for it to stay around?
>
>
> Every time I upgrade I immediately UNinstall PA and use ALSA only - so
> I still depend on xfce4-mixer . .
Have you tried pulse lately? I resisted it for years because of
flakiness. Then at some point something stopped supporting pure alsa.
And I gave in to try pulse again. And all is fine since that day
(actually controlling streams separately is an added feature).
So if you don't have some hard requirement, I think you can try out
pulse.
Hmm . . OK, I'll see how I go at the next fresh install - I usually do a
dnf upgrade most times and only install from scratch on a new hard disk
which seems to average every third or fourth version . .
Thanks,
Phil.
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8:38 p.m.
I think we should primarily because I do not know when it will stop working .... :(
If you recall, last time I obsoleted it, there were some users and we still seem to have
some users judging from emails below. So .. I guess wait and watch.
6:34 p.m.
On 04/23/2018 06:38 PM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:
I think we should primarily because I do not know when it will stop
working .... :(
If you recall, last time I obsoleted it, there were some users and we still seem to have
some users judging from emails below. So .. I guess wait and watch.
Well, so far there's 1 person in this thread, and they agreed to try
switching away from it. :)
So, I think there's a better chance we could retire it now...
kevin
1:44 a.m.
Kevin,
On 2018-04-27 09:34, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On 04/23/2018 06:38 PM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:
> I think we should primarily because I do not know when it will stop
> working .... :(
>
> If you recall, last time I obsoleted it, there were some users and we
> still seem to have some users judging from emails below. So .. I guess
> wait and watch.
Well, so far there's 1 person in this thread, and they agreed to try
switching away from it. :)
So, I think there's a better chance we could retire it now...
Well, to be clear, what I said / meant was that the next time I
re-install from scratch with a new HD is when I would try something else
- that could be 12 months away . .
P.
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4:58 p.m.
On 04/26/2018 07:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On 04/23/2018 06:38 PM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:
> I think we should primarily because I do not know when it will stop working .... :(
>
> If you recall, last time I obsoleted it, there were some users and we still seem to
have some users judging from emails below. So .. I guess wait and watch.
Well, so far there's 1 person in this thread, and they agreed to try
switching away from it. :)
So, I think there's a better chance we could retire it now...
kevin
I have absolutely no problems! I have been wanting to do this for a
while. :)
Mukundan.
10:19 a.m.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
Hey folks.
Should we look at retiring xfce4-mixer in f29?
It doesn't play nice with pulseaudio
we have xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin that works much better
I reformatted my laptop this week and this thread was really timely :)
I switched to xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin and it works great.
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