Hi all, Now that we have room on our Xfce Live DVD and I have had a bunch of experience with the Live DVD this week at customer sites, I would like to humbly request the inclusion of the follow packages.

wget: Just because

system-config-printer I have to test printers all the time. And no one will upgrade to Linux if I can't show them their printer will work. And it is a lot easier to use than 127.0.0.1:631 (tip: you need to give root a password to get cups to work)

firefox: Need a full function browser. The one that comes with Live DVD burps on certain sites

gimp: Need to take screenshots and make annotations for documentation, especially when working on routers and firewalls

And if you are still speaking to me:

hplip: Needed for printer support

LibreOffice:: needed to recover M$ Office documents from corrupted Windows disks. And to demonstrate that if they upgrade to Linux, they don't need M$ Office. And they can play with it to see if they like it

Thank you for your consideration, -T

>> firefox: >> Need a full function browser. The one that comes >> with Live DVD burps on certain sites > > If everyone wants to go back to firefox, we can, but I don't think > we should ship 2 browsers + stacks. > > Soon midori is going to webkit2/gtk3, so it might work better for > more folks, and also we can drop webkitgtk which should save some > room. > > Other folks thoughts? There is a major bug in midori ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/1190769 ) which lets midori segfault regularly. So I am for firefox. Cheers, flo

Hope I'm not out of place suggesting this but you might be better looking at a Fedora remix and most have what you want. I would suggest Korora as I'm involved with that project but there are others too. Jim

> There is a major bug in midori ( > https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/1190769 ) which lets midori > segfault regularly. So I am for firefox. > > Cheers, > flo 1+ too many bugs and incompatibilities. Plus the customer wants to see what they will eventually get and they will not being using Midori as it is too stripped.

On 02/18/2015 06:12 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> LibreOffice:: >> >needed to recover M$ Office documents from >> >corrupted Windows disks. And to demonstrate that >> >if they upgrade to Linux, they don't need M$ Office. >> >And they can play with it to see if they like it > Way too large I think personally. > You have 4.7 GB on the disk. And showing customers they don;'t need M$ Office is a big deal, plus they love to see their documents recovered.

On 02/21/2015 08:15 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:54:34 -0800 > ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com&gt; wrote: > >> On 02/18/2015 06:12 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>>> LibreOffice:: >>>>> needed to recover M$ Office documents from >>>>> corrupted Windows disks. And to demonstrate that >>>>> if they upgrade to Linux, they don't need M$ Office. >>>>> And they can play with it to see if they like it >> >>> Way too large I think personally. >>> >> >> You have 4.7 GB on the disk. And showing customers >> they don;'t need M$ Office is a big deal, plus they >> love to see their documents recovered. > > No, we are currently targeting a 1gb usb, not a full sized dvd. :) > > We could of course change that... > > kevin Hi Kevin, I can not even find a 1 GB USB at my suppliers, except for the terrible/cheap ones that are so very, very SLOW and fall apart.

On 02/23/2015 07:13 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 02/23/2015 07:32 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > >> On 02/21/2015 08:15 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:54:34 -0800 >>> ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> On 02/18/2015 06:12 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>>> >>>>> LibreOffice:: >>>>>> >>>>>>> needed to recover M$ Office documents from >>>>>>> corrupted Windows disks. And to demonstrate that >>>>>>> if they upgrade to Linux, they don't need M$ Office. >>>>>>> And they can play with it to see if they like it >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Way too large I think personally. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You have 4.7 GB on the disk. And showing customers >>>> they don;'t need M$ Office is a big deal, plus they >>>> love to see their documents recovered. >>>> >>> >>> No, we are currently targeting a 1gb usb, not a full sized dvd. :) >>> >>> We could of course change that... >>> >>> kevin >>> >> >> Hi Kevin, >> >> I can not even find a 1 GB USB at my suppliers, except for >> the terrible/cheap ones that are so very, very SLOW and >> fall apart. >> > > I doubt it's so much the storage on the user end as storage and > bandwidth on the mirrors. > > > I have gotten around that by formatting with ext4 and setting up for persistence. Problem is, I am finding it rather difficult to get most PC's to actually boot off a USB stick. Some do, most don't.

Supermicro's BIOS'es are an especially big pain in the neck (not my exact word). Most PC's will boot off a DVD though. And NO MAC (OSx) will boot off a Live USB without jumping though some crazy hoops.

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On 02/23/2015 07:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Eh? I have dealt with a ton of Supermicro, Asus, and other motherboard > computers and they have all worked with USB. Of course this is all > hardware post 2010 so I am guessing the age might be an issue? > Hi John, In my case, older (say 4 years of so) Supermico motherboards have no problem. It is the new ones I am having troubles with. I have gotten with Supermicro over the problem and they have come up with a new bios to fix it. It did as long as you left "legacy USB" support enabled. Then, gosh help you if you leave and kind of USB stick in the machine when you (re)boot up. I reported that one to Supermicro too. Haven't heard back from them yet.

I hate upgrading BIOS'es as I have had them go foobar on me. I will do it on a new board I haven't installed anything on yet. But after it get configured/installed, I am loath to upgrade a bios.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:21:35 -0800 ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com&gt; wrote: > Hi all, > > Now that we have room on our Xfce Live DVD and > I have had a bunch of experience with the Live > DVD this week at customer sites, I would like to > humbly request the inclusion of the follow packages.

> system-config-printer > I have to test printers all the time. And no one > will upgrade to Linux if I can't show them their > printer will work. And it is a lot easier to use > than 127.0.0.1:631 (tip: you need to give root > a password to get cups to work) Seems reasonable.

> firefox: > Need a full function browser. The one that comes > with Live DVD burps on certain sites If everyone wants to go back to firefox, we can, but I don't think we should ship 2 browsers + stacks. Soon midori is going to webkit2/gtk3, so it might work better for more folks, and also we can drop webkitgtk which should save some room. Other folks thoughts?

I don't really make much use of spins/live/etc, but I'll say that I've tried to use midori on my last two XFCE installs and quickly had to switch to Firefox to get things working. I'd be willing to give it a try again though if the engine is improved.