Some performance criticisms of F25
by Michael Catanzaro
Hi,
Jiri found this review (among many) of Fedora 25:
http://www.hecticgeek.com/2016/12/fedora-25-review/
It includes a couple recommendations:
* We should restore systemd-readahead to speed boot time by ~30% for
users without SSDs. Endless has a downstream patch for this. Or we
could use Ubuntu's readahead utility.
* We should switch from CFQ to deadline I/O scheduler (which Ubuntu
has been using for years) for subjective massive responsiveness
improvements when the system is under load
Of these, the later seems easier to change and more important. Anyone
know why we're still using CFQ? If the answer is "it's better for
servers" then perhaps we need a mechanism to adjust this on a per-
product basis.
Just wanted to put these issues back on the radar....
Michael
6 years, 10 months
Filing Issues / Feature requests for Workstation
by Ryan Lerch
After reading the discussion on this recent post on the Fedora Magazine:
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-workstation-get-features-want-now/ I
began to wonder if it was worth discussing if there is a better way to
gather and discuss bugs / RFEs for Workstation as a whole. Currently, the
two ways for doing this is this mailing list, and bugzilla.
The mailing list is great for discussions, but once a discussion is opened,
and completed, it is kind of difficult to track after the fact. Bugzilla is
great for tracking issues / RFEs for specific packages, but unless a user
knows exactly what package an improvement or bug applies to, it has the
potential to kind of get lost as well.
Would it be worth consider using a pagure ticket queue to gather and
discuss some of these items, and some of the initiatives that we want to
work on for Workstation?
cheers,
ryanlerch
7 years, 1 month
Our custom firefox useragent prevents Fedora users from watching
netflix on Firefox
by Elad Alfassa
Hi,
Netflix have recently (and also, finally) started supporting Firefox on
Linux, which is great for Fedora users who want to watch Netflix without
having to install Chrome or Chromium.
However, there's a catch: our default Firefox user agent is blocked by
Netflix.
If you try to use Firefox on Fedora to watch netflix, you'd get an error
message that silverlight is required.
If you then change the user agent to "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0" (you can set
general.useragent.override in about:config) and try again, netflix will
work without any problem.
I think we should fix this, because it's silly to force user to install a
non-default browser to do this kind of thing.
There are two ways we could fix this:
1) Stop using a custom user agent. This also has the benefit of making
Fedora users a bit less trackable, but the downside of not having a way to
measure active Fedora users online (which is why the custom one was
re-introduced, iirc).
2) Someone with an official position within Fedora / Red Hat could email
Netflix and ask them to stop blocking our custom user agent.
I think Netflix's rationale for blocking non-upstream user agents is that
their "help page" says "Supported on stable, official release builds from
Mozilla. Non-Mozilla builds are not supported.".
Considering the fact that most Linux users (and especially Fedora users)
don't run the mozilla builds, and that Firefox in Fedora meets all of
mozilla's branding guidelines to be eligible for officially calling itself
Firefox, I think that limitation is silly, so we probably should convince
Netflix to change their user agent blocking policy.
--
-Elad.
7 years, 1 month
[wayland] Applications are unable to grab input
by Christian Stadelmann
One main difference between x11 and wayland is that in x11 all applications receive all input whereas in wayland the compositor receives input and decides which application may receive it.
This causes a major issue with application which need input grab for running or showing a nested desktop. This affects e.g. GUI virtual machines (SPICE clients), RDP clients, VNC clients, nested kwin/gnome-shell/whatever. See also: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285770 . Games might also be affected, I don't know.
I'm posting this here to raise attention because
1. to fix this we need another protocol (extension)
2. this issue can't be fixed in a single application, it needs the whole stack (wayland library, compositors, affected applications) to change
Compared to the other bugs in "WaylandRelated" lists [1] [2], these bugs need architecture design, not just fixing bugs in one package.
I don't know whether this mailing list is the right place to discuss an issue like this. If you know better, please tell me.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1277927&hide_resolv...
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=757579&hide_resolved=1
7 years, 1 month
flatpak issues in F26 alpha
by Chris Murphy
Hi,
There's too much confusion or too many bugs to even start filing...
http://flatpak.org/apps.html
Click on LibreOffice, the very first link.
Click on that file from within FireFox, and it opens Gnome Software
which gives me the option to install. I click install. It counts up
from 0% to 84% and then the status bar turns back into an Install
button. There's no error message.
LibreOffice is not installed.
[chris@f26h ~]$ flatpak remotes
gnome user
org.libreoffice.LibreOffice-origin user,no-enumerate
I'm not expecting these to be user installed but rather system
installed. This user is an admin and I really don't want every user on
this system having to install their own copy of e.g. LibreOffice. My
understanding is admin users would have runtimes and apps installed as
system not user.
[chris@f26h ~]$ flatpak remote-delete org.libreoffice.LibreOffice
## Gnome shell puts up a modal authentication dialog. I didn't have to
authenticate to get to this point, why do I have to authenticate to
back out? Anyway, I authenticate and:
error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._g_2dio_2derror_2dquark.Code1:
Remote "org.libreoffice.LibreOffice" not found
[chris@f26h ~]$ flatpak remote-delete gnome
##authenticate dialog
error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._g_2dio_2derror_2dquark.Code1:
Remote "gnome" not found
I can't modify these either. So now I'm stuck.
Back in Gnome Software, click on the Install button and it does
nothing, no error message.
--
Chris Murphy
7 years, 1 month
Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-April-10
by Michael Catanzaro
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-04-10/workstation...
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-04-10/workstation...
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-04-10/workstation...
=================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG
=================================
Meeting started by mcatanzaro at 13:00:12 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-04-10/workstati
on.2017-04-10-13.00.log.html
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (mcatanzaro, 13:00:44)
* F26 Marketing talking points (mcatanzaro, 13:08:06)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_talking_points
(x3mboy, 13:12:36)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_talking_points#Fedora_Work
station
(mcatanzaro, 13:13:45)
* Alpha release: any feedback to consider? (mcatanzaro, 13:17:59)
* Plymouth/keyboard layout issue (mcatanzaro, 13:20:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1405539
(mcatanzaro, 13:20:44)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1405539#c29
(mcatanzaro, 13:30:21)
* Workstation technical spec review (mcatanzaro, 13:32:17)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification
(mcatanzaro, 13:32:49)
* AGREED: Package list to be removed from technical specification.
(mcatanzaro, 13:36:22)
* F26 blocker: goa-daemon not stopped on logout, and gnome-keyring
unusable on next log in (mcatanzaro, 13:36:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1340203
(mcatanzaro, 13:37:07)
* GNOME Software bandwidth issues (mcatanzaro, 13:43:53)
* Open floor (mcatanzaro, 13:56:22)
Meeting ended at 14:00:08 UTC.
Action Items
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* (none)
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* mclasen (22)
* zodbot (13)
* juhp (10)
* x3mboy (8)
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