8:12 a.m.
Hi folks,
So this idea came up in the netinstall download info thread [1],
although I have been thinking offhand for a while it might be a good
idea for other reasons (eg enabling testers to find the test images more
easily - every time I need to find a test image I can never find it. :) )
I'd like to mock something up so we can visualize what this would look
like and if it would work, but I'm not 100% sure all of the
downloadtypes we'd want on there. I think the primary things listed on
the site should be those that are not featured on the main websites -
they are not editions, spins, or labs (although we can link out to those
sites.)
To be able to mock this up though, I need to figure out what downloads
should be featured on the site, and we should probably talk about their
relative merits / use cases. Here is a (perhaps not exhaustive) list of
things we could list on this page:
- Netinstall ISOs (so these are built for specific editions, but this is
the one exception to featuring things not normally featured I think
would be a good idea)
- the minimal fedora image (it doesn't seem to have a home now?)
- docker containers
- Bittorrent torrent files (could just be a link to refer to torrent.fpo)
- Alternative architecture downloads
- Digging out dl.fpo / download.fpo / alt.fpo I found x86, aarch64,
ppc64, ppc64le, s390x, and s390 images.
- boot.fpo images
- testing images
- nightlies
- alpha / beta / tc / rc images
- archival images (could just point to archive.fpo)
- the everything DVD that lets you choose a desktop in syslinux that we
hand out at conferences (does this still exist?)
Am I forgetting anything?
~m
[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2015-September/013169....
8:22 a.m.
2015-09-17 15:12 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>:
Hi folks,
So this idea came up in the netinstall download info thread [1], although
I have been thinking offhand for a while it might be a good idea for other
reasons (eg enabling testers to find the test images more easily - every
time I need to find a test image I can never find it. :) )
I'd like to mock something up so we can visualize what this would look
like and if it would work, but I'm not 100% sure all of the downloadtypes
we'd want on there. I think the primary things listed on the site should be
those that are not featured on the main websites - they are not editions,
spins, or labs (although we can link out to those sites.)
To be able to mock this up though, I need to figure out what downloads
should be featured on the site, and we should probably talk about their
relative merits / use cases. Here is a (perhaps not exhaustive) list of
things we could list on this page:
- Netinstall ISOs (so these are built for specific editions, but this is
the one exception to featuring things not normally featured I think would
be a good idea)
- the minimal fedora image (it doesn't seem to have a home now?)
- docker containers
- Bittorrent torrent files (could just be a link to refer to torrent.fpo)
- Alternative architecture downloads
- Digging out dl.fpo / download.fpo / alt.fpo I found x86, aarch64,
ppc64, ppc64le, s390x, and s390 images.
- boot.fpo images
- testing images
- nightlies
- alpha / beta / tc / rc images
- archival images (could just point to archive.fpo)
- the everything DVD that lets you choose a desktop in syslinux that we
hand out at conferences (does this still exist?)
Am I forgetting anything?
~m
[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2015-September/013169....
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Yeah I'm quite fine with all of them, maybe we can also add the Multi-DVD
image [1], which is not available elsewhere and we could also add the
respins [2] of the actual edition images, as they are not official images
but people spend a lot of time to make them adding the latest packages and
avoiding so the 500-600MB update you need to do when downloading for
example the F22 workstation image now (there are direct downloads and
torrent files too).
[1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/22/Multi/
[2] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/
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Robert Mayr
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11:32 a.m.
On 09/17/2015 09:22 AM, Robert Mayr wrote:
we could also
add the respins [2] of the actual edition images, as they are not
official images but people spend a lot of time to make them adding the
latest packages and avoiding so the 500-600MB update you need to do when
downloading for example the F22 workstation image now (there are direct
downloads and torrent files too).
The respins are Fedora Fedora though, as in, not remixes right?
~m
3:02 p.m.
2015-09-17 18:32 GMT+02:00 Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>:
On 09/17/2015 09:22 AM, Robert Mayr wrote:
> we could also
> add the respins [2] of the actual edition images, as they are not
> official images but people spend a lot of time to make them adding the
> latest packages and avoiding so the 500-600MB update you need to do when
> downloading for example the F22 workstation image now (there are direct
> downloads and torrent files too).
>
The respins are Fedora Fedora though, as in, not remixes right?
~m
Yeh, they just have updated packages inside, nothing else added or changed
AFAIK, but still unofficial obviously.
You were talking about test images, well they could fit in here, also I
used them several times in installations, just because I wanted to have the
latest packages on an ISO (could also use the netinstall, that's right, but
ok).
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Robert Mayr
(robyduck)
3:14 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:02:04PM +0200, Robert Mayr wrote:
Yeh, they just have updated packages inside, nothing else added or
changed
AFAIK, but still unofficial obviously.
Some of this seems parallel to one of the issues we're facing with
Atomic — different downloads which we _want_ people to be able to find
roughly equally well, but which do not all have the same level of
testing. How do we set the expectations right?
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