On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 03:41:41PM +0200, Robert Mayr wrote:
2015-09-16 15:12 GMT+02:00 Paul W. Frields
<stickster(a)gmail.com>:
> Matthew Miller pointed me at this bug:
> <
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263565>
>
> The OP had to drop back to a netinstall when he had a bad experience
> with the KDE spin. If there are some problems with a spin, certainly
> the responsible SIG can work on solving that. But in thinking about
> the reporter's comments about finding netinstall: perhaps it would
> make sense for the spin site to include an unobtrusive pointer to
> Workstation or Server netinstall ISO. This might be analogous to the
> Other Downloads section found on the Server and Workstation download
> pages. Thoughts?
Ok so this is a request which is not really consistent itself in my
opinion. The user who filed the bug wanted the KDE Spin, and he
followed the links from our main
getfedora.org website to the
spin. That's pretty fine and it's what we want. Why should I want to
find a Workstation netinstall image when I'm on a KDE Spin webpage?
I think 99% of all users going to the Spins website don't want to
find any edition image, because they are specifically looking for a
Desktop Spin (or more even a functional spin when on labs.fp.o).
Yes, the inconsistency is because there are not separate spin
netinstalls. (And I'm not advocating creating them, since it's a
marginal value at best.)
Finally, the Workstation WG itself didn't want to promote the
netinstall images at all, and we never had them on the website
during the whole F21 release cycle. Then the WG came up and said
they wanted to have the netinstall images for F22, but they
shouldn't be too prominent.
There was a technical reason for the change, which was to make sure
that Boxes works well for guest VM installation. However, the WG
wanted to avoid diverting users to a netinstall "choose your own
adventure" experience. The Websites team came up with a good solution
here, I think.
Actually that's what we are showing there, and if you go the
Workstation download page you will also find easily the netinstall
images for both architectures. A netinstall image is kinda
specific, and most of the users won't download it, because its use
is trickier than a simple Live image. Therefore we also decided to
not add any descriptions about them, which could lead to
misunderstandings for new end users when going to get as much
informations about the default image as possible. My two cents
about the topic.
I think you and I are in violent agreement. :-) In any case, I think
Mo's solution might make sense.
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