5:51 a.m.
Hi,
The current main image on http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ is a 200K PNG.
This can easily be reduced in size 10 times to a 20K JPEG with negligible reduction in
image quality, i.e. 'Explore Fedora's possibilities' is still readable. Just
need to make sure the transparent corners are changed to white to match the background.
Also the F13 release banner could do with the same treatment.
I can see both images being visibly drawn line by line as I download the page and I'm
on a fast broadband connection. To the casual browser on a slower connection the page
could be unbearably slow.
Usually the Fedora release tour is really informative but to have no textual link to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_tour means this is hidden for many people who
quickly scan the page. I only found it after attempting to redesign the F12 release front
page! Just a change to
What's new in Fedora 13? Take the <a
href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_tour">tour<... and read
the <a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/">release
notes. >></a>
instead of
<a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/">What... new
in Fedora 13? Read the release notes. >></a>
would at least make people aware there is more information available.
All the best for the release,
Al
11:08 p.m.
New subject: Recommend change F13launch image to JPEG to reduce download time and add text link to F13 Tour
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Al Thomas <astavale(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
The current main image on http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ is a 200K PNG.
This can easily be reduced in size 10 times to a 20K JPEG with negligible reduction in
image quality, i.e. 'Explore Fedora's possibilities' is still readable. Just
need to make sure the transparent corners are changed to white to match the background.
Also the F13 release banner could do with the same treatment.
I can see both images being visibly drawn line by line as I download the page and I'm
on a fast broadband connection. To the casual browser on a slower connection the page
could be unbearably slow.
Great catch! I'll pass that along to design so we become more aware of
things like this.
I haven't noticed it since I typically look at the site locally on my system.
Usually the Fedora release tour is really informative but to have no
textual link to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_tour means this is hidden for
many people who quickly scan the page. I only found it after attempting to redesign the
F12 release front page! Just a change to
What's new in Fedora 13? Take the <a
href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_tour">tour<... and read
the <a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/">release
notes. >></a>
instead of
<a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/">What... new
in Fedora 13? Read the release notes. >></a>
would at least make people aware there is more information available.
I did notice that the Tour page was blank. I thought it was still in
progress. I found that the Tour page was replaced by
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes. I reached
out to someone in Marketing and i got the details. In short, The Tour
was deprecated in favor of the previous link, since F12.
All the best for the release,
Al
We really appreciate your suggestions, ideas and patches. I know you
sent a handful of patches a couple of weeks ago for the home page. I
apologize but i have not reviewed them, however, I have them flagged
and will get them to them after the release.
Thanks again,
Sijis
11:47 p.m.
New subject: [Design-team] Recommend change F13launch image to JPEG to reduce download time and add text link to F13 Tour
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 23:08:05 -0500,
Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Al Thomas
<astavale(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The current main image on http://stg.fedoraproject.org/ is a 200K PNG.
>
> This can easily be reduced in size 10 times to a 20K JPEG with negligible reduction
in image quality, i.e. 'Explore Fedora's possibilities' is still readable.
Just need to make sure the transparent corners are changed to white to match the
background.
>
> Also the F13 release banner could do with the same treatment.
>
> I can see both images being visibly drawn line by line as I download the page and
I'm on a fast broadband connection. To the casual browser on a slower connection the
page could be unbearably slow.
>
Great catch! I'll pass that along to design so we become more aware of
things like this.
I haven't noticed it since I typically look at the site locally on my system.
You might first try doing lossless compression using optipng, pngcrush or
advpng. If lossless compression (and dropping of metadata) doesn't save
enough than look at using the convert command (part of ImageMagic) to
reduce the number of colors. I would expect that blurring and noise reduction
would allow better compression and would also reduce the image size.
Shrinking and rexpanding should also allow for better compression.
5:51 p.m.
New subject: [Design-team] Recommend change F13launch image to JPEG to reduce download time and add text link to F13 Tour
On Mon, 17 May, 2010 5:47:16, Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> Wrote
You might first try doing lossless compression using optipng,
pngcrush or
advpng.
Wasn't aware of these, but here are the results of a quick test:
Original: 200296 bytes
Optipng (max optimisation - level 7): 199113 bytes (0.6% smaller)
Jpeg from GIMP (78% quality): 20830 bytes (89.6% smaller)
Quite a difference!
Al
8:41 a.m.
New subject: [Design-team] Recommend change F13launch image to JPEG to reduce download time and add text link to F13 Tour
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Al Thomas <astavale(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Wasn't aware of these, but here are the results of a quick test:
Original: 200296 bytes
Optipng (max optimisation - level 7): 199113 bytes (0.6% smaller)
Jpeg from GIMP (78% quality): 20830 bytes (89.6% smaller)
FTR:
convert f13launch.png -quality 0 +dither -depth 8 +map outfile.png
yields a 57K png file
--
Gianluca Sforna
http://morefedora.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna
12:37 p.m.
New subject: [Design-team] Recommend change F13launch image to JPEG to reduce download time and add text link to F13 Tour
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Gianluca Sforna <giallu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Al Thomas
<astavale(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Wasn't aware of these, but here are the results of a quick test:
>
> Original: 200296 bytes
> Optipng (max optimisation - level 7): 199113 bytes (0.6% smaller)
> Jpeg from GIMP (78% quality): 20830 bytes (89.6% smaller)
FTR:
convert f13launch.png -quality 0 +dither -depth 8 +map outfile.png
yields a 57K png file
--
Gianluca Sforna
http://morefedora.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna
Gianluca thanks for the tip.
I tried it and it works. I didn't notice any quality issues, so I've
committed it to the website repo. It should show up in stg.fp.o in
about an hour.
Sijis
6:04 p.m.
On Mon, 17 May, 2010 5:08:05, Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: Recommend change F13launch image to JPEG to reduce download time and add
text link to F13 Tour
> Usually the Fedora release tour is really informative but to have
no textual link to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_tour means this is hidden for
many people who quickly scan the page. I only found it after attempting to redesign the
F12 release front page! Just a change to
>
> What's new in Fedora 13? Take the <a
href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_tour">tour<... and read
the <a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/">release
notes. >></a>
>
> instead of
>
> <a href="http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/">What...
new in Fedora 13? Read the release notes. >></a>
>
> would at least make people aware there is more information available.
I did notice that the Tour page was blank. I thought it was still in
progress. I found that the Tour page was replaced by
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes. I reached
out to someone in Marketing and i got the details. In short, The Tour
was deprecated in favor of the previous link, since F12.
Yes, the one page release notes are much nicer to read for the casual browser of the site.
A draft has appeared there now along with a history of the idea at:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-May/012856.html
If the page is complete by release maybe "What's new in Fedora 13? Read the
release notes. >>" should point to the one page release notes instead of the
full version.
We really appreciate your suggestions, ideas and patches. I know you
sent a handful of patches a couple of weeks ago for the home page. I
apologize but i have not reviewed them, however, I have them flagged
and will get them to them after the release.
That's good to know, thanks. My general proposal is two fold:
1. Lot's of good information is too buried in the site, e.g. spins
2. Overall information architecture should make it easier for people to move from New to
Returner to Contributor
All the best,
Al
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