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REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-02-22 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (22 fev.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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New Arrival
by qasim raza 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

Hi to all my Seniors in this Field! I am Qasim, a new ambassidor from pakistan. I want to be an energetic part of Fedora project. I have plans , but not clear to implement the. I want little bit guidance , in start what i have to do. Once i go through it. Then i will do a lot for it. Thanx to all Cooperative Helpful Quizzical @daptable $kilful !nvincible Mysterious Responsible @mbitious Zealous @ctive

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New ambassador wants help !
by Digvijay Patankar 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

Hi all, I am Digvijay. I am new to the list. Can anyone please explain what should I do now ? I have read my duties already but please tell me some methods to implement them. Thanks in advance.

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Ali Here
by Ali R 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

hi everyone, ali here. Fedora rocks and theres no doubt about it, well in my community i've been taking some serious steps. we have fedora installed in almost all the computers of our department and i have requested the chairman that the same should be done for the other departments of our university. plus wer are also planning a hands-on workshop so that fedora is no longer an alien technology for the faculty and students. regards On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:10 PM, < fedora-ambassadors-list-request(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request(a)redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner(a)redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution (gordon dunlop) > 2. Re: Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution > (Paul-Marc Bougharios) > 3. Re: Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution > (Amirtham purendra raman bala) > 4. Re: Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution (Leroy) > 5. New Arrival (qasim raza) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:33:39 +0000 > From: gordon dunlop <astrozubenel(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed > solution > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <84b9284b0902211233t4099c2d4k6ab8ecbd28ae2334(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > 2009/2/21 gordon dunlop <astrozubenel(a)googlemail.com> > > > > > > > 2009/2/20 Johan Hasan <johanhsn(a)gmail.com> > > > >> At the moment within the U.K. we are petitioning our government to adopt > >> free and open software within education: > >> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools/ > > > > Sorry I gave you all a dead link. > > Gordon Dunlop > > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2009022… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:26:19 +0200 > From: Paul-Marc Bougharios <paulmarc(a)ieee.org> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed > solution > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <920e95a50902211426g1e259a29y741ce842fbd11492(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > > I consider myself one of those ambassadors who are quite active in their > community, but fail to "report back" on wiki's and blogs, or even reply to > mailing lists. > > Not that I wouldn't want to write reports or chat with fellows from a > community I take pride to being member of, but I tend to spend my spare > time > (if any) working on getting people to love Fedora. > I honestly barely have the time to read my emails, much less to reply to > all > of them... > > However, thus far, I have been able to reach thousands of university > students, did a seminar on "How to use Linux (Fedora) as a reliable OS", > and > constantly am spreading the word around. > Heck, even my IT manager asked me a couple of days ago to give him both the > 32 & 64 bit Fedora DVD's: our proxy servers will soon get what's best out > there to drive them: Fedora 10! And maybe our workstations will be finally > fueled with the most productive OS one can lay hands on. > > I side by inode0 with: > "...I suggest you lead by example and just do it. You don't need a rule." > > And I think Roy's got a point: > "...At the end of the day, I think its now time for someone to come forth > and make a > decision for the rest of the ambassadors to adhere." > > Until the next reply of this interesting (and long) thread, have a nice > weekend, all of you! > -- > Take care, > Paul-Marc Bougharios, Engr > > http://www.paulmarc.org/ > > May God Be With You > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2009022… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:55:40 +0530 > From: "Amirtham purendra raman bala" <bamirthampr(a)in.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed > solution > To: <fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com> > Message-ID: <1235265940.4496bf24afe7fab6f046bf4923da8de6(a)mail.in.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Original message From:PaulMarc Bougharios< paulmarc(a)ieee.org >Date: 22 > Feb 09 03:56:19Subject:Re: [Ambassadors] Re: inactive ambassadors, a > proposed solutionTo: fedoraambassadorslist(a)redhat.comHi all,I consider > myself one of those ambassadors who are quite active in their community, but > fail to "report back" on wiki's and blogs, or even reply to mailing > lists.Not that I wouldn't want to write reports or chat with fellows from a > community I take pride to being member of, but I tend to spend my spare time > (if any) working on getting people to love Fedora. I honestly barely have > the time to read my emails, much less to reply to all of them...However, > thus far, I have been able to reach thousands of university students, did a > seminar on "How to use Linux (Fedora) as a reliable OS", and constantly am > spreading the word around. Heck, even my IT manager asked me a couple of > days ago to give him both the 32 & 64 bit Fedora DVD's: our proxy servers > will soon get what's best out ther > e to drive them: Fedora 10!And maybe our workstations will be finally > fueled with the most productive OS one can lay hands on. I side by inode0 > with:"...I suggest you lead by example and just do it. You don't need a > rule."And I think Roy's got a point:"...At the end of the day, I think its > now time for someone to come forth and make a decision for the rest of the > ambassadors to adhere."Until the next reply of this interesting (and long) > thread, have a nice weekend, all of you! Take care,PaulMarc Bougharios, > Engrhttp://www.paulmarc.org/ May God Be With You > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2009022… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:52:00 +0800 > From: Leroy <hanyong.lim(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed > solution > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <b3d0c7770902212252w2dbb88cp3a911995ff489ac1(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > > Just to let you all know I'm still alive and active, although not attending > meetings and reporting back due to being jobless and looking for jobs > nowadays. (thanks to being retrenched). > > Sometimes nowadays, I try to contribute what I can, by teaching students at > Vocational Institutes and Colleges on how to use Fedora and recommending > them to my friends and family and students. From my perspective, inactivity > of Fedora Ambassadors should not be considered on whether Fedora > Ambassadors > report back or not, all of us has a different method of how we contribute > to > The Fedora Project. > > As for the concept of housekeeping. +1 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2009022… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:09:59 -0800 (PST) > From: qasim raza <skyscanner4u(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Ambassadors] New Arrival > To: Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: <894113.68913.qm(a)web50011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi to all my Seniors in this Field! > I am Qasim, a new ambassidor from pakistan. I want to be an energetic part > of Fedora project. I have plans , but not clear to implement the. I want > little bit guidance , in start what i have to do. Once i go through it. Then > i will do a lot for it. > > Thanx to all > > > Cooperative Helpful > Quizzical @daptable $kilful !nvincible Mysterious > Responsible @mbitious Zealous @ctive > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2009022… > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 37, Issue 42 > ******************************************************* > -- Ali Raza President Computer Cell Fedora Ambassador Department of Computer Science & Information Technology NWFP UET msn: dejavu87(a)gmail.com yahoo: r3b3l_87 skype: ali.uet cell# +92321-986-2931 http://dejavu87.blogspot.com

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Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?
by Md. Sabrul Jamil 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Robert Scheck <robert(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote: > On Sun, 01 Feb 2009, Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: > > I didnt know this, Fedora's objective is, to make proprietary software > > installation difficult. If this is, then I am sorry for the mail, I dont > > have anything to say. > > > Speaking from the view of an ambassador, I hope, that you don't communicate > ever such statements as above to users when acting as ambassador or when > representing Fedora. Surely you didn't meant the sentence such hard as you > have written it, nevertheless it seems you're lacking basics about Fedora. > What do you expect his reply when someone from project says him ¨You're not the first one to make these suggestions. Parroting them like a broken record isn't going to change any of the above. Sorry.¨ Dont you think, his sentence is also as hard as his? > > Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems carefully in > order > to understand what Fedora is doing and why things are so as they are - and > especially regarding proprietary software, there called "forbidden items". > > The unlucky thing is, that third-party vendors are making the installation > of their software unnecessarily hard by themself. So if they would license > their software as open source, it would be much more easy to integrate them > into Fedora or even ship their software, driver or whatelse as part of our > Linux distribution. > I am wondering, how Ubuntu make this third-party repo and packages installation easier. If they can, why we can´t? > As ambassador your work around proprietary software should be to show stuff > mentioned above to the Fedora users out there and explain them, that they > need to get in touch with their closed source vendor and bother the vendor > hard enough, that the licensing maybe gets changed or better integrateable > (e.g. the vendor optimizes that by the use of own Fedora repositories) into > Fedora and other Linux distributions. > > Most important thing around is: Proprietary software itself must not be bad > at all, I understand that companies need to make money. But if then a user > complains about, he or she needs to get pointed by an ambassador to the > cause of that. We can't solve things, we are not responsible for. Of course > the people supporting RPM Fusion's non-free repository are doing a very > well job. But nevertheless it would be better, if we wouldn't have need for > such a repository at all - I think we all can agree on this. > > So please get more involved into Fedora and try to get the lacking basics > about Fedora. Ask people around the project, eg. Fedora Ambassadors, Fedora > Ambassador Mentors or similar. This mailinglist can also be used to clarify > such things, but avoid cross-posting over several mailing lists. > > Finally, I didn't want to blame you at all here, futhermore trying to lower > your current deficits. Hopefully you're getting it also that way - thanks. > Here I have to remind you one thing, did he say to add close source packages with Fedora? No he didn´t say it, he just wanted a easier solution of this. What Fedora really needs to do is find a legal way to make all of these things easier. -- Ador GPG key: 0xCB42A910 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ador

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Custom SPIN for DF-Day+
by A. Mani 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Document Freedom Day is on the 25thof March. Plenty of teams will be taking part in the event (I am coordinating the Kolkata team IlugCalinfo ) Is it possible for somebody to make a custom spin including: 1. Mainly destop oriented packages (updated to stable Fedora10) 2. All Open Office stuff with good collection of templates, Dictonaries 3. Scribus, GIMP, Koffice, Gnumeric, Docbook, Lua, Quanta etc (latest stable) 4. TexLive and IDEs 5. Lots of Advocacy related documentation + Whitepapers, Technical reports, Tutorials etc (for DF-Day): (I can help) 6. Documentation More (please suggest) (a non official spin can be considered for some locales ... for rpmfusion things) I think many teams would be able to make copies and do lot more. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmfLuQACgkQunMISzvdfU6RTwCfRC92xf81fWxnUSWptO5eagxG Z+kAnRt0hFEqyR47jJq/JUz2E5IoZ3eI =pjJO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 37, Issue 34
by Gerard Braad 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

From: "Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)" <bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org> >> How could a local leader know >> without approaching me, or me keeping him up to date? > When you joined, didn't you get in touch with the already established > ambassadors in your region ? I meant this a little more general... activities and involvement can change over time. It is impossible for him to know about everything what is going on, without some 'administrative work'... that is what I meant with the occasional social email :P.

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Re: inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution
by Gerard Braad 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 19:42 +0100, Luca Foppiano wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 13:39 +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > > To me, very few people can: the local leaders. They are the ones who > > know the Ambassadors in their region and what they do. And if there's > > an Ambassador in their region they never heard of, maybe it means he > > is inactive... > +1 +1 I do agree a local leader would play an important role... But, every region has a different level of maturity. Even for The Netherlands it would be difficult for a local leader to know about activities of the ambassadors in his region, without him having to do some administrative work. example; Currently, because of my day time job, it is difficult to make my presence in the community noticeable (no internet connection allowed). It doesn't mean I am not active, at home I try to compensate as much time as possible. Sharing knowledge about the Emerging Technologies, cobbler, koan, spacewalk is still spreading the awareness of Fedora and it's community. When possible I am helping people with packaging, installation support and education about how to use a system from desktop to server use. How could a local leader know without approaching me, or me keeping him up to date? I can imagine a local leader would ask for an overview of performed tasks... although I would doubt about it's true effectiveness. We should find an effective way to keep the ambassadors in the loop. An occasional social email? ;) Gerard

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I'll be at scale, just running a little late.
by Joseph Smidt 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Sorry to distract people who don't need to hear this, but I will be running a little late to scale and will be there around lunch. I am excited to do some packaging. :) Joseph Smidt -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Smidt <josephsmidt(a)gmail.com> Physics and Astronomy 4129 Frederick Reines Hall Irvine, CA 92697-4575 Office: 949-824-3269

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Distributions of fedora10 DVDS
by rabi kumar 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Few days before some students from wbut came to me and asking for LINUX DVDS.Today i managed to get it and distributed among all the students who were interested.One of faculty of WBUT Mr.Santanu Chaterjee was asking me for fedora stikers for laptop and i found it was very nice idea that we can design laptop stikers and we can put it in laptops in the place of Vista or Windows stikers. Rabi kumar Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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