ambassadors February 2009

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-02-03
by inode0 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

* Announcements - herlo asks that we volunteer to suggest topics for upcoming sessions https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Classroom - lcafiero announces Birds of a Feather added to FAD-SCaLE * XO Developer Program - ke4qqq reports that after initial discussions at FUDcon about using the ambassador program to help the XO developer program get XOs into the hands of developers the OLPC project has shipped 100 XOs to us which should arrive in a week or so. Further discussion of this item moved into the Open Floor section of the program. * Fedora Infrastructure - Mike McGrath joined the meeting to introduce us to the Fedora Infrastructure project. - Discussion covered a lot of ground. What work is the group involved with? What is the process to get new contributors involved? What skills are in high demand? How is the team organized? How does one get sponsored? What are all these FIGs? Is there a place for less skilled entry level contributors? Who contributes from a corporate/academic angle? And more ... - All ambassadors interested in learning more about the infrastructure team are encouraged to read the minutes for the complete discussion. * Montreal Linux Symposium [http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2009/cfp.php] - djf_jeff reports that he can now take ownership of the Fedora presence at MLS this year! We'll work with djf_jeff to help get the details coordinated with the MLS people and get whatever is needed sent up north. * FAD -- SCaLE and beyond [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x] - the_real_lcafier updates us on the planning for SCaLE and its FAD, things are moving forward nicely. - jsmidt updates us on the planning for LUCI http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LUCI - quaid discusses some ideas about arranging remote participation at the FAD, met with hearty cheers. * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - Reminder to keep updating the budget with needs and expenses - Start thinking about and filling in a Q1 budget * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - No report * Open Floor - ke4qqq resumed discussion of the XO developer program. We need to get these moved out of our hands and into the hands of developers and be able to followup to show that good stuff is happening. Lots of enthusiastic volunteers to help. - Next meeting is in 2 weeks on February 17th and we'll set our schedule for the following quarter then. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. And a special thanks to Mike McGrath for taking the time to meet with ambassadors so they can better understand one critical area within the Fedora Project.

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Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit'
by Joerg Simon 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Am Sonntag, 18. Januar 2009 23:57:47 schrieb Bert Desmet: > Hi Joerg, > > I have heard in the #fedora-ambassadors channel on irc that there are > ambassadorKit's. > But the wiki about it says that it's only a proposel until now? Hi Bert, i post this in Ambassadors ML too, this is an important Topic! there are several started Projects, Kit´s, Boxes etc ... EventBox http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox Draft Ambassador Kit North America http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and best practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do you think about this? Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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OSCON call for papers ends today (03 Feb. 2009 Midnight PST)
by Karsten Wade 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

If you want to propose a talk, send it in soon: http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/cfp/57 We intend to have a great Fedora presence, including a booth and a Fedora Activity Day. We haven't settled on FAD ideas yet, so it's wide open! - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41

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Upcoming deadlines
by David Nalley 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Thanks to Matt Domsch's excellent post I thought I'd bring up some important dates for some of the conferences that are quickly approaching. See Matt's post for more detail: http://domsch.com/blog/?p=30 # Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit, April 8-10 in San Francisco, CA. Proposals due Feb 15. # Linux Symposium, July 13-17 in Montreal, Canada. Call for Papers due Feb 28. # OSCON, July 20-24 in San Jose, California. Call for Participation due Feb 3. # OpenSourceWorld (formerly LinuxWorldExpo), August 10-13 in San Francisco, CA. Call for Papers due Feb 20. This month there are four conferences whose CFP ends. The closest one ends tomorrow. PLEASE, if you are interested in presenting a topic, please propose it to these groups. Even if you are worried about the financial ability to go, please propose something and we'll help you. I'd far rather spend a little money and have an Ambassador presenting and showing off some of the good things going on in Fedora than have us either not show up or just show up with a booth. Your material doesn't even have to be original - I just saw a presentation on Fedora Planet from Michael DeHaan that I plan on using in two weeks. There are scores of such presentations out there. Precious few of us are what you would call eloquent speakers, but for the most part Fedora excites us, so please share the excitement with others and pitch a talk.

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FAMNA Meeting @ 2009-02-03 9pm ET
by Clint Savage 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

This is a reminder for FAMNA Meeting Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm ET (6pm PT) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-02-03 A special visit from Mike McGrath of the Fedora Infrastructure team will be the highlight of the meeting. Additional Agenda Items: * Budget Review * Upcoming conferences and FADs (SCaLE, LFNW, PyCon, etc) * Task List Review * Open floor

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Fedora
by Joerg Simon 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Dear Ambassadors, right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to participate in this discussion. There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a WikiPage. - Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ... - Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology with spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success... Talk about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ... - Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support using and teaching of FOSS in educational institutions Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer certification, ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora. Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country We can enrich Events with valuable content and give them real FOSS Partnership Spirit. CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ricardovs from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Edgabaldi from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Itbegins from United Kingdom https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tenouk from Penang, Malaysia Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Fedora 11: What do we expect?
by Angel 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

Hi, It´s almost one year, I am with the Fedora community. In this one year, I met so many great people from Fedora community. I have visited hundreds of forums, mailing lists. I meet so many people who uses Fedora (also who doesn´t). I have learned so many things from them. Some of them are happy using Fedora and some them are not. And I think, as a community member, it´s my responsibility to inform you guys about some issues that I think, why people doesnt like to use Fedora or switching to other distros. And something, that we need to fix. 1. Need to include RPM Fusion with Fedora 11 default installation (but not activated, like Fedora test repo or raw hide, as we don´t include proprietary software). If this is not possible (may be because of some legal issue), then I´ll say, we need a working GUI solution to install RPM Fusion. According to RPM Fusion <http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration> they explained a GUI solution to install the repo, but most of the time, it doesnt work at all (I myself, tested thousands time, also so many people there has, who tried, I searched for the solution, everyone give me CLI solution). And KPackage Kit can´t install it. So we need a solution that will work for GNOME and KDE both. 2. Need a GUI solution to install nVidia and ATI driver, that will automatically install the appropriate driver (Ubuntu has a GUI *Hardware Drivers *options that automatically download and install the driver, also they have Envy, its another GUI solution) 3. Need a GUI solution to install all kind of proprietary Multimedia codecs (Ubuntu has ubuntu-restricted-extras, they simply select it from package manager, and it installs all kind of codecs including JAVA) 4. Need a complete GUI solution to install softwares offline from cache (ofcourse if it can fix the dependency) or DVD Media. 5. There has a very easy way to install a rpm package from CLI (one single package, that has not any dependency issue or if it has, it´s possible to install the package by ignoring it). But from Fedora 9, GUI double click rpm install doesnt work at all. So, we need a GUI solution of it. 6. Need to add CD/DVD repo with Fedora 11 default installation, so people can use DVD to install softwares. 7. From /etc/yum.conf we need to edit keepcache=0 to 1 as default. So people can use the cache to install software later or to some other PC. Many of you will say, why we are following Ubuntu? Well, I´ll say, no, we are not following them. This is the truth, what users want. And many of you will think, this ideas are stupid, but truth is If this issues we can fix, for sure, so many people will start using Fedora. My apologies, if I am wrong anywhere. -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation

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Fedora DVDs for Red Hat AUS
by Paul W. Frields 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

You guys will hopefully forgive me for being not quite up to date on the latest procedures! :-) What's the best way for me to get about 40 F10 DVDs sent to the Red Hat office in Sydney, Australia? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Re: Fedora 11: What do we expect?
by Robert Scheck 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

On Sun, 01 Feb 2009, Ashiqur Rahman Angel wrote: > I didnt know this, Fedora's objective is, to make proprietary software > installation difficult. If this is, then I am sorry for the mail, I dont > have anything to say. "The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content." - I can't read "proprietary software" there at all. As the sentence of our homepage says, we're focussed to free software and content, not to proprietary and closed source stuff. Speaking from the view of an ambassador, I hope, that you don't communicate ever such statements as above to users when acting as ambassador or when representing Fedora. Surely you didn't meant the sentence such hard as you have written it, nevertheless it seems you're lacking basics about Fedora. Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems carefully in order to understand what Fedora is doing and why things are so as they are - and especially regarding proprietary software, there called "forbidden items". The unlucky thing is, that third-party vendors are making the installation of their software unnecessarily hard by themself. So if they would license their software as open source, it would be much more easy to integrate them into Fedora or even ship their software, driver or whatelse as part of our Linux distribution. As ambassador your work around proprietary software should be to show stuff mentioned above to the Fedora users out there and explain them, that they need to get in touch with their closed source vendor and bother the vendor hard enough, that the licensing maybe gets changed or better integrateable (e.g. the vendor optimizes that by the use of own Fedora repositories) into Fedora and other Linux distributions. Most important thing around is: Proprietary software itself must not be bad at all, I understand that companies need to make money. But if then a user complains about, he or she needs to get pointed by an ambassador to the cause of that. We can't solve things, we are not responsible for. Of course the people supporting RPM Fusion's non-free repository are doing a very well job. But nevertheless it would be better, if we wouldn't have need for such a repository at all - I think we all can agree on this. So please get more involved into Fedora and try to get the lacking basics about Fedora. Ask people around the project, eg. Fedora Ambassadors, Fedora Ambassador Mentors or similar. This mailinglist can also be used to clarify such things, but avoid cross-posting over several mailing lists. Finally, I didn't want to blame you at all here, futhermore trying to lower your current deficits. Hopefully you're getting it also that way - thanks. Greetings, Robert

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