3:50 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:04 PM Jeff Fitzmaurice <jeffsplace(a)live.com>
wrote:
@bex, thanks for setting me straight on all this. I do appreciate all
that
the board does. And I am new compared to everyone else. I should just
continue to go with the flow for a while until I truly understand the
structure and methods of the Project as a whole.
And I truly appreciate the RH people and their individual contribution to
the Project.
I sure wish more experienced Ambassador folk could chime in here and let
me observe and learn a bit more.
This last sentence is the one I think summarizes where we are so much. Our
experienced ambassadors aren't helping our new ambassadors grow which led
to the system collapsing. You have done some amazing events in the US and
I look forward to reading more of those tickets :)
regards,
bex
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:33 PM Jeff Fitzmaurice <jeffsplace(a)live.com>
wrote:
> I think the ambassador program is a good one. I don't think it should be
> cancelled. But sometimes I feel like it it's really difficult to attend
> significant events. Sure we can have tiny events in our living rooms and
> such. But events where we mingle with others in the industry are
difficul=
t
> to get funding for.
>
Can you show me where funding tickets for significant events was declined
when those events were good for Fedora? There is even a procedure for
large events:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/large-events/
It even starts with, "While anyone can hold or attend a large
Fedora-related event, these events are typically done by experienced Fedora
contributors and or existing Fedora Ambassadors. "
> I have seen past Ambassador event budgets and have been shocked as to how
> much was spent. Knowing that, I set out to make my event spending a bit
> more frugal.
>
While I've been on Mindshare, our focus has been about impact, not
dollars. If you are self-selecting away from big events because you can't
justify the budget relative to the impact, that feels right. If you're
refusing to ask for funding above an arbitrary level, that is a decision
you made, not the project.
However, unless one is employed by Red Hat, being an Ambassador is not a
> payed role but volunteer. And to get us out to key regional events costs
> money. This money thing should be approved with common sense, frugality
o=
f
> course, and curtisy. We volunteer time. We should not have to beg for
swa=
g,
> travel, and lodging (for events far from home).
>
... and the mindshare tickets show it is. RH employment isn't a factor for
this money, period. In fact, the big event ticket that is currently open
from a person who happens to be an RH employee is not approved because they
aren't providing the information we request of everyone.
>
> Also, we might want to create a talking point list for all the cool
thing=
s
> in fedora. Last year, a few things caught me off guard. I had to play
cat=
ch
> up at events during any down time I had.
>
Marketing would love your help with this document htat they try to create
for every release.
>
> But all that, if Mindshare wants to take over everything we do for, most
> of them are Red Had employees. Who are we to oppose?
>
First, of the 8 people listed on Mindshare, five (5) are not employed by RH
and three (3) are. This is far from an RH controlled body. This is
Fedora, we don't do that here.
Second, Mindshare was started as a way of solving hte inability of
ambassadors to approve budgets which was blocking events. Mindshare is
approving tickets. Your tickets have been approved. I really don't
understand where you are coming from here.
regards,
bex
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent on my Samsung Galaxy S=C2=AE 5
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:47:42 +0100
> From: Onyeibo Oku <onyeibo(a)schemefusion.com>
> Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fate of Ambassador Programme
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> Hi everyone
>
> Perhaps this is not news anymore but it seems the relevance of the
> Ambassadors Programme is in doubt. There is a Mindshare Ticket probing
> for role of Fedora Ambassadors in 2019 and best use of
> resources/time/energy (https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145)
>
> Have you seen it? What are your thoughts? Are we jaded?
>
> Say something ... here, there.
> Perhaps I am hanging on to an old concept -- the nostalgia must have
> been too strong.
>
> Regards
> Onyeibo
>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:09:36 -0400
> From: Mar=C3=ADa Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: The Fate of Ambassador Programme
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> Hey Onyeibo, thx for stepping up.
>
> I've tried to put my input into the ticket as much as possible. I'm
> currently working on a couple of small strategies to reach out to those
> inactive Ambassadors and get their perspective, tho I don't have that
muc=
h
> free time this week.
>
> It's part of the IT nature that some things come and go in different
time=
s,
> however, this particular initiative, at least for me, represents the
> highlight of what being a top contributor should be. I'll keep trying to
> put my energy into the success of this Team, in hope that new and old
> ambassadors reactivate.
>
> >From my point of view, it's just a burn down of the program, and
probabl=
y
> this can be a great opportunity for, instead shut the program down,
> reinvigorate it.
>
> Hoping to hear from more of you.
>
> El vie., 13 sept. 2019 a las 10:48, Onyeibo Oku (<
onyeibo(a)schemefusion.co=
m
> >=3D
> )
> escribi=3DC3=3DB3:
>
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > Perhaps this is not news anymore but it seems the relevance of the
> > Ambassadors Programme is in doubt. There is a Mindshare Ticket probing
> > for role of Fedora Ambassadors in 2019 and best use of
> > resources/time/energy (https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145)
> >
> > Have you seen it? What are your thoughts? Are we jaded?
> >
> > Say something ... here, there.
> > Perhaps I am hanging on to an old concept -- the nostalgia must have
> > been too strong.
> >
> > Regards
> > Onyeibo
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> <div dir=3D3D"ltr">Hey Onyeibo, thx for
> stepping=3DC2=3DA0up.<div><br></div><div>=3D
> I've tried to put my input into the ticket as much=3DC2=3DA0as
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> I&=3D
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> tho=3D
> se inactive Ambassadors and get their perspective, tho I don't have
> tha=3D
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> I=3D
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> par=3D
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> being=3D
> a top contributor should be. I'll keep trying to put my energy into
> th=3D
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> reactivate.</d=3D
> iv><div><br></div><div>From my point of view,
it's just a burn down
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> =3D
> the program, and probably this can be a great opportunity for, instead
> shut=3D
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> dir=3D3D"lt=3D
> r" class=3D3D"gmail_attr">El vie., 13 sept. 2019 a las 10:48,
Onyeibo Oku
> (&l=3D
> t;<a href=3D3D"mailto:onyeibo@schemefusion.com
<onyeibo@schemefusion.com>">onyeibo(a)schemefusion.com<=
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> <onyeibo@schemefusion.com%22%3Eonyeibo(a)schemefusion.com%3C/a>>&=3D
> gt;) escribi=3DC3=3DB3:<br></div><blockquote
class=3D3D"gmail_quote"
> style=3D3D"mar=3D
> gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
> rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=3D
> ex">Hi everyone<br>
> <br>
> Perhaps this is not news anymore but it seems the relevance of the<br>
> Ambassadors Programme is in doubt.=3DC2=3DA0 There is a Mindshare Ticket
> probin=3D
> g<br>
> for role of Fedora Ambassadors in 2019 and best use of<br>
> resources/time/energy (<a href=3D3D"
https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145=
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> re=3D
> l=3D3D"noreferrer" target=3D3D"_blank">
https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/=
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> </a=3D
> >)<br>
> <br>
> Have you seen it?=3DC2=3DA0 What are your thoughts?=3DC2=3DA0 Are we
jade=
d?<br>
> <br>
> Say something ... here, there.<br>
> Perhaps I am hanging on to an old concept -- the nostalgia must have<br>
> been too strong.<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
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t-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div
dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:33 PM Jeff
Fitzmaurice
&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffsplace@live.com">jeffsplace@live.com</a
<jeffsplace@live.com%22%3Ejeffsplace(a)live.com%3C/a>>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>
<div>I think the ambassador program is a good one. I don't think it
sho=
uld be cancelled. But sometimes I feel like it it's really difficult
to=
attend significant events. Sure we can have tiny events in our living
room=
s and such. But events where we mingle with
others in the industry are difficult to get funding
for.</div></div></div>=
</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
class=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"font=
-size:small">Can you show me where funding tickets for significant events
w=
as declined when those events were good for Fedora?=C2=A0 There is even a
p=
rocedure for large events:=C2=A0<a href=3D"
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/e=
n-US/mindshare-committee/large-events/">
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-U=
S/mindshare-committee/large-events/</a></div><div
class=3D"gmail_default"
s=
tyle=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div
class=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"fo=
nt-size:small">It even starts with, "While anyone can hold or attend
a=
large Fedora-related event, these events are typically done by
experienced=
Fedora contributors and or existing Fedora Ambassadors.
"</div><br></=
div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0px
=
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
><div>
<div>I have seen past Ambassador event budgets and have been shocked as to
=
how much was spent. Knowing that, I set out to make my event spending a
bit=
more
frugal.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">While I've
been on
Mind=
share, our focus has been about impact, not dollars.=C2=A0 If you are
self-=
selecting away from big events because you can't justify the budget
rel=
ative to the impact, that feels right.=C2=A0 If you're refusing to ask
=
for funding above an arbitrary level, that is a decision you made, not the
=
project.</div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"font-size:sma=
ll"></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<div>However, unless one is employed by Red Hat, being an Ambassador is
not=
a payed role but volunteer. And to get us out to key regional events
costs=
money. This money thing should be approved with common sense, frugality
of=
course, and curtisy. We volunteer
time. We should not have to beg for swag, travel, and lodging (for events
=
far from
home).</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">... and the
mindshare
tickets=
show it is.=C2=A0 RH employment isn't a factor for this money,
period.=
=C2=A0 In fact, the big event ticket that is currently open from a person
w=
ho happens to be an RH employee is not approved because they aren't
pro=
viding the information we request of
everyone.</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, we might want to create a talking point list for all the cool
th=
ings in fedora. Last year, a few things caught me off guard. I had to play
=
catch up at events during any down time I
had.</div></div></div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div><div
class=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"font-size:small=
">Marketing would love your help with this document htat they try to
create=
for every
release.</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote
class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But all that, if Mindshare wants to take over everything we do for,
mo=
st of them are Red Had employees. Who are we to
oppose?</div></div></div></=
blockquote><div><br></div><div><div
class=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"font-s=
ize:small">First, of the 8 people listed on Mindshare, five (5) are not
emp=
loyed by RH and three (3) are.=C2=A0 This is far from an RH controlled
body=
.=C2=A0 This is Fedora, we don't do that here.</div><div
class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div
class=3D"gmail_default"
=
style=3D"font-size:small">Second, Mindshare was started as a way of
solving=
hte inability of ambassadors to approve budgets which was blocking
events.=
=C2=A0 Mindshare is approving tickets.=C2=A0 Your tickets have been
approve=
d.=C2=A0 I really don't understand where you are coming from
here.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div
clas=
s=3D"gmail_default"
style=3D"font-size:small">regards,</div><div
class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div
class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small">bex</div><div
class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"></div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote
class=3D"=
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:47:42 +0100<br>
From: Onyeibo Oku <<a href=3D"mailto:onyeibo@schemefusion.com
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Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fate of Ambassador Programme<br>
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Hi everyone<br>
<br>
Perhaps this is not news anymore but it seems the relevance of the<br>
Ambassadors Programme is in doubt.=C2=A0 There is a Mindshare Ticket
probin=
g<br>
for role of Fedora Ambassadors in 2019 and best use of<br>
resources/time/energy (<a href=3D"https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145"
ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145</a>)<br>
<br>
Have you seen it?=C2=A0 What are your thoughts?=C2=A0 Are we jaded?<br>
<br>
Say something ... here, there.<br>
Perhaps I am hanging on to an old concept -- the nostalgia must have<br>
been too strong.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Onyeibo<br>
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:09:36 -0400<br>
From: Mar=C3=ADa Leandro <<a href=3D"mailto:tatica@fedoraproject.org
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Hey Onyeibo, thx for stepping up.<br>
<br>
I've tried to put my input into the ticket as much as possible.
I'm=
<br>
currently working on a couple of small strategies to reach out to those<br>
inactive Ambassadors and get their perspective, tho I don't have that
m=
uch<br>
free time this week.<br>
<br>
It's part of the IT nature that some things come and go in different
ti=
mes,<br>
however, this particular initiative, at least for me, represents the<br>
highlight of what being a top contributor should be. I'll keep trying
t=
o<br>
put my energy into the success of this Team, in hope that new and old<br>
ambassadors reactivate.<br>
<br>
>From my point of view, it's just a burn down of the program, and
pr=
obably<br>
this can be a great opportunity for, instead shut the program down,<br>
reinvigorate it.<br>
<br>
Hoping to hear from more of you.<br>
<br>
El vie., 13 sept. 2019 a las 10:48, Onyeibo Oku (<<a href=3D"mailto:
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ibo(a)schemefusion.com" target=3D"_blank">onyeibo(a)schemefusion.com
</a>>=3D=
<br>
)<br>
escribi=3DC3=3DB3:<br>
<br>
> Hi everyone<br>
><br>
> Perhaps this is not news anymore but it seems the relevance of the<br>
> Ambassadors Programme is in doubt.=C2=A0 There is a Mindshare Ticket
p=
robing<br>
> for role of Fedora Ambassadors in 2019 and best use of<br>
> resources/time/energy (<a href=3D"
https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/14=
5"
target=3D"_blank">https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145</a>)<br>
><br>
> Have you seen it?=C2=A0 What are your thoughts?=C2=A0 Are we
jaded?<br=
>
><br>
> Say something ... here, there.<br>
> Perhaps I am hanging on to an old concept -- the nostalgia must
have<b=
r>
> been too strong.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
> Onyeibo<br>
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class=3D3D=
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r" class=3D3D"gmail_attr">El vie., 13 sept. 2019 a las
10=
:48, Onyeibo Oku (&l=3D<br>
t;<a href=3D3D"<a href=3D"mailto:onyeibo@schemefusion.com
%22%3Eonye=
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onyeibo(a)schemefusion.co=
m&quot;&gt;onyeibo(a)schemefusion.com&lt;/a</a>&gt;&amp;=3D<br>
gt;) escribi=3DC3=3DB3:<br></div><blockquote
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;gmail_quote" style=3D3D"mar=3D<br>
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
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ex">Hi everyone<br><br>
<br><br>
Perhaps this is not news anymore but it seems the relevance of
the<br>=
;<br>
Ambassadors Programme is in doubt.=3DC2=3DA0 There is a Mindshare Ticket
pr=
obin=3D<br>
g<br><br>
for role of Fedora Ambassadors in 2019 and best use of<br><br>
resources/time/energy (<a href=3D3D"<a href=3D"
https://pagure.io/mi=
ndshare/issue/145"
target=3D"_blank">https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145
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l=3D3D"noreferrer" target=3D3D"_blank"><a
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tps://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/145" target=3D"_blank">
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ndshare/issue/145</a></a=3D<br>
>)<br><br>
<br><br>
Have you seen it?=3DC2=3DA0 What are your thoughts?=3DC2=3DA0 Are we
jaded?=
<br><br>
<br><br>
Say something ... here, there.<br><br>
Perhaps I am hanging on to an old concept -- the nostalgia must
have<br&=
gt;<br>
been too strong.<br><br>
<br><br>
Regards<br><br>
Onyeibo<br><br>
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