2:47 p.m.
# What: AutoQA discussion - Making Results More Maintainer-Friendly
# Who: AutoQA Developers and Other Interested Parties
# Where: #fedora-qa (IRC) and teleconference
# When: 2011-05-04 @ 13:30 UTC (09:30 EDT, 15:30 CEST)
# Why: Because we care
As the theme for the 0.5.0 release has changed to "Making AutoQA More
Maintainer-Friendly", we need to start figuring out what that means
exactly. To start figuring more of this out, we'll be holding a
brainstorming session over phone, IRC and gobby tomorrow @ 13:30 UTC.
I made some quick mockups of ideas that I have for making our logs
easier to use. In the interest of getting the most possible ideas (and
not influencing other ideas before the brainstorm), I'm holding off
until the meeting to show them. Other mockups/demos are very much
encouraged!
Tim
Dial-in information:
Participant Code: 684-645-9442
Czech Republic Dial-In: 800701035
United States Dial-In: 2127295016
Let us know if you need a different local dial-in number
Other needed info:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo
Proposed Agenda:
* What is the most important triage information for maintainers?
* What could our logs look like?
- Depcheck
- Upgradepath
* When should we be sending emails to maintainers?
3:32 a.m.
New subject: 2011-05-04 @ **13:30 UTC** AutoQA Discussion: Making Results More Maintainer-Friendly
Other needed info:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo
I don't like Gobby. Let's use etherpad instead. It's web based, no
installation, no login, no hassle.
http://piratepad.net/AutoQA-0-5-0-brainstorm
7:37 a.m.
New subject: 2011-05-04 @ **13:30 UTC** AutoQA Discussion: Making Results More Maintainer-Friendly
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 04:32 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> Other needed info:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo
I don't like Gobby. Let's use etherpad instead. It's web based, no
installation, no login, no hassle.
I'm not a fan of gobby either, but it's done the job in the past. Tim
asked me about using etherpad too, but I wasn't sure where that stood in
the Fedora project. There was some effort [1] a while back to package
and setup an etherpad instance in Fedora ... but I don't recall where
that effort is. I hadn't at all considered just using a hosted etherpad
instance elsewhere ... apologies.
Assuming the group is fine with this format, and we can migrate over
existing gobby meeting prep, that'll work. However, are there any other
instances we could use? Piratepad sounds a bit ... nefarious
(openetherpad.org?)?
Thanks,
James
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Etherpad
8:08 a.m.
New subject: 2011-05-04 @ **13:30 UTC** AutoQA Discussion: Making Results More Maintainer-Friendly
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 04:32 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > Other needed info:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo
>
> I don't like Gobby. Let's use etherpad instead. It's web based, no
> installation, no login, no hassle.
I'm not a fan of gobby either, but it's done the job in the past. Tim
asked me about using etherpad too, but I wasn't sure where that stood
in
the Fedora project.
I'm quite practical in these matters. I don't require Fedora branded services for
Fedora-related work (I'm not even sure why it is better; we use freenode IRC server
and not some internal Fedora IRC server after all, as one example), I like to use services
that "simply work". Etherpad seems superior to Gobby to me.
There was some effort [1] a while back to package
and setup an etherpad instance in Fedora ... but I don't recall where
that effort is.
AFAIK "not ready yet".
I hadn't at all considered just using a hosted
etherpad
instance elsewhere ... apologies.
> http://piratepad.net/AutoQA-0-5-0-brainstorm
Assuming the group is fine with this format, and we can migrate over
existing gobby meeting prep, that'll work. However, are there any
other
instances we could use? Piratepad sounds a bit ... nefarious
(openetherpad.org?)?
I wouldn't discriminate against service name, it's just regular public etherpad
instance and we have a public meeting. But we can use any other instance if you prefer. I
just have good experience with this one, that's all.
8:27 a.m.
New subject: 2011-05-04 @ **13:30 UTC** AutoQA Discussion: Making Results More Maintainer-Friendly
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 09:08 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 04:32 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > > Other needed info:
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo
> >
> > I don't like Gobby. Let's use etherpad instead. It's web based, no
> > installation, no login, no hassle.
>
> I'm not a fan of gobby either, but it's done the job in the past. Tim
> asked me about using etherpad too, but I wasn't sure where that stood
> in
> the Fedora project.
I'm quite practical in these matters. I don't require Fedora branded services for
Fedora-related work (I'm not even sure why it is better; we use freenode IRC server
and not some internal Fedora IRC server after all, as one example), I like to use services
that "simply work". Etherpad seems superior to Gobby to me.
Yup, I agree ... the only restriction I'm aware of is whether the
project is FOSS.
> There was some effort [1] a while back to package
> and setup an etherpad instance in Fedora ... but I don't recall where
> that effort is.
AFAIK "not ready yet".
> I hadn't at all considered just using a hosted
> etherpad
> instance elsewhere ... apologies.
>
> > http://piratepad.net/AutoQA-0-5-0-brainstorm
>
> Assuming the group is fine with this format, and we can migrate over
> existing gobby meeting prep, that'll work. However, are there any
> other
> instances we could use? Piratepad sounds a bit ... nefarious
> (openetherpad.org?)?
I wouldn't discriminate against service name, it's just regular public etherpad
instance and we have a public meeting. But we can use any other instance if you prefer. I
just have good experience with this one, that's all.
Sounds good! Once tflink confirms he's okay with etherpad and can
migrate his existing sample documents elsewhere ... we'll use the
piratepad URL you provided.
Thanks,
James
8:31 a.m.
New subject: 2011-05-04 @ **13:30 UTC** AutoQA Discussion: Making Results More Maintainer-Friendly
On 05/04/2011 07:27 AM, James Laska wrote:
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 09:08 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
>>> http://piratepad.net/AutoQA-0-5-0-brainstorm
>>
>> Assuming the group is fine with this format, and we can migrate
>> over existing gobby meeting prep, that'll work. However, are
>> there any other instances we could use? Piratepad sounds a bit
>> ... nefarious (openetherpad.org?)?
>
> I wouldn't discriminate against service name, it's just regular
> public etherpad instance and we have a public meeting. But we can
> use any other instance if you prefer. I just have good experience
> with this one, that's all.
Sounds good! Once tflink confirms he's okay with etherpad and can
migrate his existing sample documents elsewhere ... we'll use the
piratepad URL you provided.
Yeah, I usually use piratepad, myself. I'm fine with either, though and
didn't have my heart set on gobby. I'll get both setup (not that it
takes much time) and we can use either one.
I assume that we'll be using the piratepad, though.
Tim
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