Hi there,
the version of CMake that is currently packaged with RHEL/CentOS 8 is 3.11, which is becoming more and more outdated. Me (and a few other people, judging by bug report participation) would quite like to have a newer version of CMake on their systems.
Now, if I understand correctly, according to the EPEL policies, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#Policy, it is prohibited to replace packages from the base distribution. It is, however, allowed to replace these packages in modules that are not enabled by default.
Unfortunately, nobody really seems to know how to build modules for EPEL. There is documentation for Fedora: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/ . However, being not very familiar with modularity, I have no clue which parts of the documentation apply to EPEL, and I could not find EPEL-specific documentations and recommendations. I have seen some threads on this list *discussing* these, but it's hard for me to discern the consensus and best practices from mailing list threads.
Would the Modularity magicians be so kind as to reply with some pointers on how to create modules for EPEL? If that already exists, my apologies, I hope you can direct me to that resource.
Kind Regards, Alexander
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 08:58:21AM -0000, Alexander Korsunsky wrote:
Hi there,
the version of CMake that is currently packaged with RHEL/CentOS 8 is 3.11, which is becoming more and more outdated. Me (and a few other people, judging by bug report participation) would quite like to have a newer version of CMake on their systems.
Now, if I understand correctly, according to the EPEL policies, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#Policy, it is prohibited to replace packages from the base distribution. It is, however, allowed to replace these packages in modules that are not enabled by default.
Unfortunately, nobody really seems to know how to build modules for EPEL. There is documentation for Fedora: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/ . However, being not very familiar with modularity, I have no clue which parts of the documentation apply to EPEL, and I could not find EPEL-specific documentations and recommendations. I have seen some threads on this list *discussing* these, but it's hard for me to discern the consensus and best practices from mailing list threads.
Would the Modularity magicians be so kind as to reply with some pointers on how to create modules for EPEL? If that already exists, my apologies, I hope you can direct me to that resource.
I replied to the same question yesterday on Fedora devel list https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/FULNP2XFGCV5MT5U6VYLQZITDTSBEG7U/#2AOC6F2VMAD563ABD6AOV7JPPJGX7L3C.
-- Petr
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:58 AM Alexander Korsunsky fat.lobyte9@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there,
the version of CMake that is currently packaged with RHEL/CentOS 8 is 3.11, which is becoming more and more outdated. Me (and a few other people, judging by bug report participation) would quite like to have a newer version of CMake on their systems.
Has anyone asked if CMake could be updated in RHEL yet? Unlike in the CMake 2.x days, CMake 3.x tends to maintain behavioral compatibility extraordinarily well...
Has anyone asked if CMake could be updated in RHEL yet?
This would be the absolute best option here, but it depends on the benevolence of Red Hat.
I don't have a subscription and I don't know how to ask them for a rebase without one. Maybe there's some kind of process for getting stuff into CentOS Stream? So far the interaction with upstream seems to be limited to "create an issue on Bugzilla".
On 5/15/20 8:32 AM, Alexander Korsunsky wrote:
Has anyone asked if CMake could be updated in RHEL yet?
This would be the absolute best option here, but it depends on the benevolence of Red Hat.
I don't have a subscription and I don't know how to ask them for a rebase without one. Maybe there's some kind of process for getting stuff into CentOS Stream? So far the interaction with upstream seems to be limited to "create an issue on Bugzilla".
That would be my suggestion:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=cmake
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:37 AM Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com wrote:
On 5/15/20 8:32 AM, Alexander Korsunsky wrote:
Has anyone asked if CMake could be updated in RHEL yet?
This would be the absolute best option here, but it depends on the benevolence of Red Hat.
I don't have a subscription and I don't know how to ask them for a rebase without one. Maybe there's some kind of process for getting stuff into CentOS Stream? So far the interaction with upstream seems to be limited to "create an issue on Bugzilla".
That would be my suggestion:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=cmake
Wrong place. This is the correct one:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20L...
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:40 AM Neal Gompa ngompa13@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:37 AM Orion Poplawski orion@nwra.com wrote:
On 5/15/20 8:32 AM, Alexander Korsunsky wrote:
Has anyone asked if CMake could be updated in RHEL yet?
This would be the absolute best option here, but it depends on the benevolence of Red Hat.
I don't have a subscription and I don't know how to ask them for a rebase without one. Maybe there's some kind of process for getting stuff into CentOS Stream? So far the interaction with upstream seems to be limited to "create an issue on Bugzilla".
That would be my suggestion:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=cmake
Wrong place. This is the correct one:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20L...
I've discovered that RHEL is pushing a CMake module for RHEL 8.3: https://git.centos.org/modules/cmake/blob/c8s-stream-rhel8/f/SOURCES/modulem...
However, it would not be useful for most EPEL package builders, and IMO, is completely unnecessary, given CMake's strong backwards compatibility guarantees. I've filed a bug asking them to retire the module and upgrade the base package instead: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1845910
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