On 01/27/2015 08:01 PM, P J P wrote: Maybe the fact that there was going to be a 'FUDCon Pune Planning meeting' on 27 Jan 2015 should have been sent to the Fedora India mailing list at least. The more the word is spread, the better the chances of having an awesome event. I remember from the last FudCon at Pune, that having more number of enthusiastic volunteers could have made it an even better experience for the participants. In my opinion, we should learn from the PyCon India organisers, who go all out to invite and welcome volunteers, and in response a large number of volunteers come together from different parts of the country to make the event happen. Disappointed. :-/ - rejy (rmc)

On 27 January 2015 at 23:22, P J P <pj.pandit(a)yahoo.co.in&gt; wrote: I have now created a weekly recurring calendar invite: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/Events/2015/2/3/#m2027 Hopefully it will send a reminder to this list a day prior. Siddhesh -- http://siddhesh.in

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Rejy M Cyriac <rcyriac(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: This one was more for local volunteers from Pune as I understood after reading the piratepad. PyCon India happens in a different way and following a complete different structure. The community is also different. FUDCON is much more focused to the Fedora developers and users than anything else. Fedora always welcomes new people to join in to the project. Most of the conference work, which is supposed to be done before the event, has to be done by the local city volunteers. Kushal -- Fedora Cloud Engineer CPython Core Developer Director Python Software Foundation http://kushaldas.in

On 28 January 2015 at 00:27, Lalatendu Mohanty <lmohanty(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: I don't subscribe to the idea of more heads == better in all cases, regardless of their intentions. Too many cooks spoil the broth, too many programmers produce more bugs than code, too many planners produce more plans of plans than actual plans, etc. That said, announcing meetings on this llist and transcribing them over IRC is not a bad an idea from the viewpoint of transparency and I believe we conceded that already. Siddhesh -- http://siddhesh.in

On 27 January 2015 at 22:43, Rejy M Cyriac <rcyriac(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: A large part of the stuff discussed had to do with physical planning (coordinating with various entities locally), so it didn't make sense to discuss that on a bridge. The idea of an 'open for all' meeting on phone doesn't quite scale IMO. Maybe transcribing the minutes on IRC might be a bit better, like some FADs we've had in the past. Disappointed. :-/ That is an unreasonably harsh reaction to a first meeting IMO. Siddhesh

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Rejy M Cyriac <rcyriac(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: I would hate to participate in irc meetings. I detest typing lots of text in general. Anurag

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Sudhir Khanger <ml(a)sudhirkhanger.com&gt; wrote: Hangouts, Bluejeans or good old conference call? Anurag

On 28 January 2015 at 15:01, Anurag <gnurag(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Having ~30 people on conference call is a waste IMO. I believe we already have general consensus on the meetings being mostly in person as they are currently, with someone in the room transcribing (and forwarding questions and suggestions) on IRC. Siddhesh -- http://siddhesh.in

On 01/28/2015 05:46 PM, Saleem Ansari wrote: Let us tap this enthusiasm before it fizzles out. ;-) I sympathize with folks with slower and/or expensive internet access, and am personally in favour of having IRC meetings, and mailing list discussions. - rejy (rmc) +1

On 01/28/2015 07:26 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: Best of both worlds :-) We need to probably print out posters well ahead to promote the event Once the meeting is done, copy the minutes over to the wiki, and flush the etherpad - rejy (rmc)

On 28 January 2015 at 20:07, Amit Shah <amitshah(a)gmx.net&gt; wrote: I am not referring to the meeting pads actually, I'm talking about the main etherpad: http://piratepad.net/FUDConPune2015 It looks like something that will be better served as a wiki page where we know who made what changes and can track it much more easily. The content may get modified during every meeting, but it will rarely get completely revamped. Also, it's not stuff that we will always edit live, which is the point of an etherpad. Anyway, bikeshedding so if you feel strongly about it then we can keep it in the pad and let you remember to save revision every time ;) Siddhesh -- http://siddhesh.in

On (Tue) 27 Jan 2015 [22:43:46], Rejy M Cyriac wrote: This was a first meeting, to gauge how much participation we'll have from the immediately local community (ie at the RH office). We do plan to invite all the local (to Pune) people to these meetings. In fact, we did that last time around as well. No one else turned up last time, but that doesn't mean this time can't be different. Also, if we have enough outside people, we can move the meeting to a non-RH location (e.g. the MIT COE campus, or some place else). We definitely don't want to work in a silo, if that's the impression you got. No need to be; it's early days, and what's needed right now is feedback and not emotion :-) I'd love to get non-Pune people involved too. Sinny mentioned she could join over hangouts. Not sure if we can do that all the time, but it's an idea and we should try it for the next Tuesday meeting. Overall, though, my feeling is that these meetings are more or less going to be status updates once responsibilities are identified. And to volunteer oneself for some area doesn't need meetings, just needs people to step up. So if people here are willing to step up, please send an email, and we'll keep connecting over whatever medium is suitable for that activity. E.g. for people who can help with travel and transportation of intl speakers, we have 3/4 volunteers already. If someone else wants to join that team, please let us know via email, and those 3/4 people can figure out a way to sync weekly. The Tuesday f2f meeting can then have a status update from whoever is present physically. If someone's not present at the f2f meeting, we can get the update via etherpad or irc. Not a big deal. Also keep in mind that the FPL and fudcon-planning meetings happen on IRC with the even owners and organisers. I think the duration is fortnightly to begin with, and then the frequency increases as the event comes closer. These meetings are crucial for deciding which tickets are accepted and which aren't. Tickets are the only way to request travel sponsorship, so people looking forward to travel have to open a trac ticket, and then each ticket gets discussed during one of these fudcon-planning IRC meetings. Also, you would've noticed we weren't hesitant to send out the meeting minutes. Anything that gets discussed is put out in the open. You can even help by spotting mistakes / errors or doing general bookkeeping by ensuring we're staying true to the cause. Looking forward to more participation! Amit -- http://log.amitshah.net/