On 06/03/2010 02:22 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: There is no blanket restriction against anyone from becoming an Ambassador but it helps to get involved in the project at some level before applying to be an ambassador. If you are a people person, I certainly would recommend participating or organizing a Fedora event or joining the marketing project https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Fedora_marketing_project In some ways, if mentors can recognize your name and are familiar with you, it helps us take the next step. Hope that helps. Rahul

To keep things transparent, let me be on record that the decision of approving or rejecting probable ambassadors is a subjective one. I didn't feel he will do a good job as an ambassador because he is a complete newbie with no clue about FOSS. <quote> We don't encourage students to be ambassadors. And it is impossible when you have no experience with FOSS. If you are interested, please have a look at join.fedoraproject.org and find out if any other role suits you best. If yes, subscribe to fedora-india list[1] and send a mail with your skill-set/interests. Alternatively, you can also ask for guidance on #fedora-india on IRC freenode. Thanks. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/india </quote> Hope this helps. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

On 06/05/2010 06:06 AM, Tejas Dinkar wrote: I would phrase it differently. I want them to pursue their desire to be play the role of a ambassador by seeking areas where they can apply their interest and skills to actively contribute and broaden their understanding of the nature of the project enough to know that this is truly something they want to be an ambassador of and that takes time and effort. If you sign up to be an ambassador and you cannot make the case strongly for the values that Fedora as a project and as a community espouses, then you just need more time. The typical refrain that I am not a programmer doesn't even apply because there is enough areas including documentation, infrastructure and marketing that requires zero programming knowledge of any kind and can be a burden even because the mindset required is different. I agree with that concern. While individual mentors might take different points of view and I do know that they do, at a project level, I don't think we want a blanket rule against anyone becoming ambassadors. The desire to redirect students into other areas of the project comes from a general consensus that students with the time and skillset they typically do are better suited to task oriented activities rather than people skills which takes time but there will always be different personalities who are exceptionally good at being a people representative while being students. I would welcome them to marketing as a platform to try their hand first. On a more personal note, I find it more rewarding to mentor people that I am familiar with to some extend and if I happen to know that they are strong contributors to some sub communities within Fedora, I can work with them easier than if they are complete strangers. Rahul

On 06/06/2010 01:27 AM, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: Yep. That's the general idea. If you have successful experiences with such a approach, let us know. Rahul

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee <tamathecool(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join#Find_regional_Ambassador_... has the note specifically stating <quote> If you are a student from India, we encourage you to participate in one of the various projects within Fedora before applying to become an Ambassador. We believe that this provides you with the necessary skills and experience to handle the responsibilities expected of a Fedora Ambassador. The various projects can be seen at join.fedoraproject.org. Please subscribe to the fedora-india mailing list and join us at #fedora-india on IRC for guidance. If you still insist, or if you are not a student, please open a "Mentoring Request" ticket </quote> There has been a continuous discussion within the FAmSCo on this (as the minutes would show). So, it wasn't a decision that was 'taken on the fly'. It is good to see an increased interest in becoming an Ambassador, what would be helpful at this point is existing Ambassadors understanding that the role of an evangelist requires one to be hands-on and work continuously on building the capability to field both technical and non-technical questions. The former is possible with increased presence within various areas of the project. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay <http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog>

After checking out the page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_choose_a_mentor , my doubt is clear. This is indeed a good step to clearly define the eligibility for Indian Ambassadors. Will ask the student to follow http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_start . Abhradip Mukherjee [Fedora Ambassador and FSF-I WG Member]