12:11 p.m.
WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (07:00 EST, 13:00 Brno, 7:00 Boston,
21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode.
= Topics =
* Follow-ups
* languages repositories
* SCLs
* Chairman for next meeting
* Open Floor
8:42 a.m.
New subject: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-17)
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#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-12-17)
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Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-17/env-and-stacks...
.
Meeting summary
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* init process (hhorak, 12:01:34)
* Follow-up: languages repositories (hhorak, 12:09:02)
* on the Python upstream side, there is still no great answer for
wheel compatibility tags on OS's other than Windows and Mac OS X,
which won't block the pilot (hhorak, 12:12:01)
* the Pulp devs consider their Python support to be in an alpha state,
so picking that up *after* the initial pilot is a good approach
(hhorak, 12:20:32)
* Follow-up: SCL (hhorak, 12:21:11)
* IDEA: "centos person" builds a repo file for centos that is shipped
in a rpm in epel for access to scl.o in centos. (hhorak, 12:40:15)
* ACTION: hhorak will prepare (or resurrect old one) wiki page for
SCLs in Fedora (with connection to EPEL, CentOS) (hhorak, 12:47:42)
* IDEA: ring 0 = Core, ring 1 = Products, ring 2 = everything else?
(hhorak, 12:55:39)
* IDEA: another view on rings: core, stacks, products, everything else
(hhorak, 12:58:43)
* elections -- who wants to offer the chair (hhorak, 13:07:33)
* first, who wants to continue to be a voting member: hhorak ncoghlan
vpavlin sicampbell juhp (hhorak, 13:07:59)
* who explicitly wants to offer the chair: bkabrda tjanez (hhorak,
13:09:19)
* who did not responded and thus his chair will be offered: samkottler
pkovar (hhorak, 13:09:31)
* the next meeting will be Jan 7, 2015 (hhorak, 13:14:15)
Meeting ended at 13:15:55 UTC.
Action Items
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* hhorak will prepare (or resurrect old one) wiki page for SCLs in
Fedora (with connection to EPEL, CentOS)
Action Items, by person
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* hhorak
* hhorak will prepare (or resurrect old one) wiki page for SCLs in
Fedora (with connection to EPEL, CentOS)
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* hhorak (64)
* juhp_ (56)
* ncoghlan (35)
* langdon (30)
* jzeleny (7)
* bkabrda (5)
* zodbot (5)
* vpavlin (1)
* samkottler (0)
* sicampbell (0)
* tjanez (0)
* juhp (0)
* pkovar (0)
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12:14 p.m.
New subject: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-17)
On 17 December 2014 at 07:42, Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com> wrote:
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-12-17)
============================================
Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-17/
env-and-stacks.2014-12-17-12.01.log.html
.
Hi.
I would like to attend these meetings in the future, but at 05:00 local
time they are a bit outside of what I can deal with. [I noticed the two
board members who didn't attend are on even later time zones so would be at
04:00]
Is there a way to move the meeting to slightly later in the day? I am
mainly asking so that I can try and work with you guys on where any EPEL
work can occur.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
1:10 p.m.
New subject: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-17)
On 12/17/2014 07:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 17 December 2014 at 07:42, Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com
<mailto:hhorak@redhat.com>> wrote:
==============================__==============
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-12-17)
==============================__==============
Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.__org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-17/__env-and-st...
<http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-17/env-and-stacks...
.
Hi.
I would like to attend these meetings in the future, but at 05:00 local
time they are a bit outside of what I can deal with. [I noticed the two
board members who didn't attend are on even later time zones so would be
at 04:00]
Is there a way to move the meeting to slightly later in the day? I am
mainly asking so that I can try and work with you guys on where any EPEL
work can occur.
A good and bad news, as in every story. Good news is that there will be
elections in January or so, then I expect a discussion about a meeting
time will be opened, so the time will fit new members. A bad thing is
that the current time is already quite late for Nick and Jens, so moving
it later would mean problems for them on the other hand.
What we did previously, was to keep meeting at different time on
odd/even weeks so we can somehow cover more timezones. That's something
we can end up with after elections.
And there is always the mailing list, so feel free to create a thread
there..
Honza
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Stephen J Smoogen.
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1:45 p.m.
New subject: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-17)
On 17 December 2014 at 12:10, Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 12/17/2014 07:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
> On 17 December 2014 at 07:42, Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:hhorak@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> ==============================__==============
> #fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-12-17)
> ==============================__==============
>
>
> Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available
> at
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.__org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-
> 17/__env-and-stacks.2014-12-17-12.__01.log.html
> <http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-12-17/
> env-and-stacks.2014-12-17-12.01.log.html>
> .
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I would like to attend these meetings in the future, but at 05:00 local
> time they are a bit outside of what I can deal with. [I noticed the two
> board members who didn't attend are on even later time zones so would be
> at 04:00]
>
> Is there a way to move the meeting to slightly later in the day? I am
> mainly asking so that I can try and work with you guys on where any EPEL
> work can occur.
>
A good and bad news, as in every story. Good news is that there will be
elections in January or so, then I expect a discussion about a meeting time
will be opened, so the time will fit new members. A bad thing is that the
current time is already quite late for Nick and Jens, so moving it later
would mean problems for them on the other hand.
Ah I didn't realize that. The problems with a 24 hour world. So one of the
things is that I don't know what is going on with Stacks and Env outside of
these meeting summaries. I think I keep missing the important threads on
the list to know where things are going with CentOS or EPEL.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
3:23 p.m.
New subject: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-17)
On 18 December 2014 at 05:45, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 17 December 2014 at 12:10, Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> A good and bad news, as in every story. Good news is that there will be
> elections in January or so, then I expect a discussion about a meeting time
> will be opened, so the time will fit new members. A bad thing is that the
> current time is already quite late for Nick and Jens, so moving it later
> would mean problems for them on the other hand.
>
Ah I didn't realize that. The problems with a 24 hour world. So one of the
things is that I don't know what is going on with Stacks and Env outside of
these meeting summaries. I think I keep missing the important threads on the
list to know where things are going with CentOS or EPEL.
In this case, it's not just you - the relationship between Fedora,
Fedora Playground, EPEL, COPR, CentOS, and softwarecollections.org is
currently not well-defined, and that was pretty clear from the
discussion in the WG meeting last night. That confusion was the main
trigger for the action to add a project page for SCLs - even if it's
all just questions without answers at the moment, at least we'll have
a shared understanding of what the current questions *are*, and be
able to start looking at who needs to answer them. Even with the
CentOS SIG becoming the official home of softwarecollections.org
(assuming I understand that part correctly), Env & Stacks will still
need to be involved in order to figure out how scl.o fits into Fedora,
Fedora Playground, EPEL, and COPR.
As far as meeting times go, +1 for alternating times between "suitable
for APAC" and "suitable for US West coast". We have a similar problem
with the PSF board meetings (US West coast, central US, Germany,
India, Australia) and it just doesn't work to try to get everyone to
every meeting.
Cheers,
Nick.
--
Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia
1:21 p.m.
New subject: Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-17)
Just another +1 for time variance. I would love to participate, but my
level of coherence to participate at 4 in the morning (US West Coast) would
be quite small.
-T
---
Travis Swicegood
@tswicegood (most everywhere)
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 18 December 2014 at 05:45, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 17 December 2014 at 12:10, Honza Horak <hhorak(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> A good and bad news, as in every story. Good news is that there will be
>> elections in January or so, then I expect a discussion about a meeting
time
>> will be opened, so the time will fit new members. A bad thing is that
the
>> current time is already quite late for Nick and Jens, so moving it later
>> would mean problems for them on the other hand.
>>
>
> Ah I didn't realize that. The problems with a 24 hour world. So one of
the
> things is that I don't know what is going on with Stacks and Env outside
of
> these meeting summaries. I think I keep missing the important threads on
the
> list to know where things are going with CentOS or EPEL.
In this case, it's not just you - the relationship between Fedora,
Fedora Playground, EPEL, COPR, CentOS, and softwarecollections.org is
currently not well-defined, and that was pretty clear from the
discussion in the WG meeting last night. That confusion was the main
trigger for the action to add a project page for SCLs - even if it's
all just questions without answers at the moment, at least we'll have
a shared understanding of what the current questions *are*, and be
able to start looking at who needs to answer them. Even with the
CentOS SIG becoming the official home of softwarecollections.org
(assuming I understand that part correctly), Env & Stacks will still
need to be involved in order to figure out how scl.o fits into Fedora,
Fedora Playground, EPEL, and COPR.
As far as meeting times go, +1 for alternating times between "suitable
for APAC" and "suitable for US West coast". We have a similar problem
with the PSF board meetings (US West coast, central US, Germany,
India, Australia) and it just doesn't work to try to get everyone to
every meeting.
Cheers,
Nick.
--
Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia
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