11:42 a.m.
I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc module
from puppet forge which is declared like this:
class { 'vnc':
refresh => true,
servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16' ],
service_ensure => true,
xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
}
Via the Web console, I did the following:
--------------------
(1) Created management class "vnc":
**** name: vnc
**** class name: vnc
**** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh servers
(2) In system object:
**** selected class "vnc"
**** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:
{ service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh: True,
servers: [{'user': 'pete'}, {'args': '-geometry 1920x1200
-depth 16'}] }
--------------------
However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:
~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local
classes:
site: {}
vnc:
refresh: '~'
servers: '~'
service_ensure: '~'
xstartup_template: '~'
environment: production
parameters:
from_cobbler: 1
refresh: true
servers:
- user: pete
- args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16
service_ensure: true
tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64
xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb
I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping the
resultant breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such luck. I
am stumped.
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.
--
\*..+.-
--Greg Chavez
+//..;};
11:50 a.m.
The parameters go in the variables section of the mgmt class, not in ksmeta
(I will do variable substitutions from ksmeta in the future, but for now it
doesn't).
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc module
from puppet forge which is declared like this:
class { 'vnc':
refresh => true,
servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16' ],
service_ensure => true,
xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
}
Via the Web console, I did the following:
--------------------
(1) Created management class "vnc":
**** name: vnc
**** class name: vnc
**** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh servers
(2) In system object:
**** selected class "vnc"
**** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:
{ service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh:
True, servers: [{'user': 'pete'}, {'args': '-geometry
1920x1200 -depth
16'}] }
--------------------
However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:
~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local
classes:
site: {}
vnc:
refresh: '~'
servers: '~'
service_ensure: '~'
xstartup_template: '~'
environment: production
parameters:
from_cobbler: 1
refresh: true
servers:
- user: pete
- args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16
service_ensure: true
tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64
xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb
I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping the
resultant breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such luck. I
am stumped.
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.
--
\*..+.-
--Greg Chavez
+//..;};
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6:49 p.m.
Ah ha. So for the time being I have to create a separate management class
object for every unique declaration of a parameterized class.
At a certain point, doesn't it just make sense to say "Cobbler supports
puppet 100% and support for other tools vary" instead of "Cobbler supports
configuration management 100%"? How many people use Cobbler with a config
tool that is not Puppet?
I only say this because I fear we're going in a direction with config
management that is no longer intuitive. How can I help?
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM, James Cammarata <jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:
The parameters go in the variables section of the mgmt class, not in
ksmeta (I will do variable substitutions from ksmeta in the future, but for
now it doesn't).
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
> I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc
> module from puppet forge which is declared like this:
>
> class { 'vnc':
> refresh => true,
> servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
> 'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16' ],
> service_ensure => true,
> xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
> }
>
> Via the Web console, I did the following:
>
> --------------------
>
> (1) Created management class "vnc":
> **** name: vnc
> **** class name: vnc
> **** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh
> servers
>
> (2) In system object:
> **** selected class "vnc"
> **** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:
>
> { service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh:
> True, servers: [{'user': 'pete'}, {'args': '-geometry
1920x1200 -depth
> 16'}] }
>
> --------------------
>
> However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:
>
> ~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local
> classes:
> site: {}
> vnc:
> refresh: '~'
> servers: '~'
> service_ensure: '~'
> xstartup_template: '~'
> environment: production
> parameters:
> from_cobbler: 1
> refresh: true
> servers:
> - user: pete
> - args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16
> service_ensure: true
> tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64
> xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb
>
> I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping
> the resultant breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such
> luck. I am stumped.
>
> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.
>
> --
> \*..+.-
> --Greg Chavez
> +//..;};
>
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+//..;};
3:28 p.m.
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ah ha. So for the time being I have to create a separate management
class
object for every unique declaration of a parameterized class.
At a certain point, doesn't it just make sense to say "Cobbler supports
puppet 100% and support for other tools vary" instead of "Cobbler supports
configuration management 100%"? How many people use Cobbler with a config
tool that is not Puppet?
I do. I've used Cfengine, Chef, Puppet, and now days I use Ansible.
Please do not cater only to Puppet.
I only say this because I fear we're going in a direction with config
management that is no longer intuitive. How can I help?
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM, James Cammarata <jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:
> The parameters go in the variables section of the mgmt class, not in
> ksmeta (I will do variable substitutions from ksmeta in the future, but for
> now it doesn't).
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc
>> module from puppet forge which is declared like this:
>>
>> class { 'vnc':
>> refresh => true,
>> servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
>> 'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16'
],
>> service_ensure => true,
>> xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
>> }
>>
>> Via the Web console, I did the following:
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> (1) Created management class "vnc":
>> **** name: vnc
>> **** class name: vnc
>> **** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh
>> servers
>>
>> (2) In system object:
>> **** selected class "vnc"
>> **** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:
>>
>> { service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh:
>> True, servers: [{'user': 'pete'}, {'args': '-geometry
1920x1200 -depth
>> 16'}] }
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:
>>
>> ~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local
>> classes:
>> site: {}
>> vnc:
>> refresh: '~'
>> servers: '~'
>> service_ensure: '~'
>> xstartup_template: '~'
>> environment: production
>> parameters:
>> from_cobbler: 1
>> refresh: true
>> servers:
>> - user: pete
>> - args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16
>> service_ensure: true
>> tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64
>> xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb
>>
>> I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping
>> the resultant breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such
>> luck. I am stumped.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.
>>
>> --
>> \*..+.-
>> --Greg Chavez
>> +//..;};
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cobbler mailing list
>> cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>> https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>>
>>
>
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>
>
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12:47 p.m.
David, that was a terrible post on my part. I've already apologized to
jimi_c on IRC. Was very frustrated that day.
For what it's worth, I too am trying to move toward Ansible, but it's hard
to get buy-in.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:28 PM, David Birdsong <david.birdsong(a)gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Ah ha. So for the time being I have to create a separate management
> class object for every unique declaration of a parameterized class.
>
> At a certain point, doesn't it just make sense to say "Cobbler supports
> puppet 100% and support for other tools vary" instead of "Cobbler supports
> configuration management 100%"? How many people use Cobbler with a config
> tool that is not Puppet?
>
I do. I've used Cfengine, Chef, Puppet, and now days I use Ansible.
Please do not cater only to Puppet.
>
> I only say this because I fear we're going in a direction with config
> management that is no longer intuitive. How can I help?
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM, James Cammarata <jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:
>
>> The parameters go in the variables section of the mgmt class, not in
>> ksmeta (I will do variable substitutions from ksmeta in the future, but for
>> now it doesn't).
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Greg Chavez
<greg.chavez(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc
>>> module from puppet forge which is declared like this:
>>>
>>> class { 'vnc':
>>> refresh => true,
>>> servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
>>> 'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth
16' ],
>>> service_ensure => true,
>>> xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
>>> }
>>>
>>> Via the Web console, I did the following:
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> (1) Created management class "vnc":
>>> **** name: vnc
>>> **** class name: vnc
>>> **** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh
>>> servers
>>>
>>> (2) In system object:
>>> **** selected class "vnc"
>>> **** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:
>>>
>>> { service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh:
>>> True, servers: [{'user': 'pete'}, {'args':
'-geometry 1920x1200 -depth
>>> 16'}] }
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:
>>>
>>> ~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local
>>> classes:
>>> site: {}
>>> vnc:
>>> refresh: '~'
>>> servers: '~'
>>> service_ensure: '~'
>>> xstartup_template: '~'
>>> environment: production
>>> parameters:
>>> from_cobbler: 1
>>> refresh: true
>>> servers:
>>> - user: pete
>>> - args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16
>>> service_ensure: true
>>> tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64
>>> xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb
>>>
>>> I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping
>>> the resultant breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such
>>> luck. I am stumped.
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.
>>>
>>> --
>>> \*..+.-
>>> --Greg Chavez
>>> +//..;};
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cobbler mailing list
>>> cobbler(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
>>> https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> \*..+.-
> --Greg Chavez
> +//..;};
>
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1 p.m.
Where can I download the proper rpm
(cobbler-2.0.7-5.el5sat.TEST.00387446.3.noarch.rpm) ?
- Pat somas
Pat Somas * Sr. Systems Engineer * SunGard * Financial Systems * 377 E. Butterfield Rd,
Suite 800, Lombard, IL 60148
Tel 630-850-5327 * Mobile 630-853-1091 * Fax 630-515-1913 *
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[mailto:cobbler-bounces@lists.fedorahosted.org] On Behalf Of Greg Chavez
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:48 PM
To: cobbler mailing list
Subject: Re: [cobbler] using parameterized mgmt classes
David, that was a terrible post on my part. I've already apologized to jimi_c on IRC.
Was very frustrated that day.
For what it's worth, I too am trying to move toward Ansible, but it's hard to get
buy-in.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:28 PM, David Birdsong
<david.birdsong@gmail.com<mailto:david.birdsong@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Greg Chavez
<greg.chavez@gmail.com<mailto:greg.chavez@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ah ha. So for the time being I have to create a separate management class object for
every unique declaration of a parameterized class.
At a certain point, doesn't it just make sense to say "Cobbler supports puppet
100% and support for other tools vary" instead of "Cobbler supports
configuration management 100%"? How many people use Cobbler with a config tool that
is not Puppet?
I do. I've used Cfengine, Chef, Puppet, and now days I use Ansible.
Please do not cater only to Puppet.
I only say this because I fear we're going in a direction with config management that
is no longer intuitive. How can I help?
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM, James Cammarata
<jimi@sngx.net<mailto:jimi@sngx.net>> wrote:
The parameters go in the variables section of the mgmt class, not in ksmeta (I will do
variable substitutions from ksmeta in the future, but for now it doesn't).
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Greg Chavez
<greg.chavez@gmail.com<mailto:greg.chavez@gmail.com>> wrote:
I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc module from puppet
forge which is declared like this:
class { 'vnc':
refresh => true,
servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16' ],
service_ensure => true,
xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
}
Via the Web console, I did the following:
--------------------
(1) Created management class "vnc":
**** name: vnc
**** class name: vnc
**** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh servers
(2) In system object:
**** selected class "vnc"
**** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:
{ service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh: True, servers:
[{'user': 'pete'}, {'args': '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth
16'}] }
--------------------
However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:
~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local
classes:
site: {}
vnc:
refresh: '~'
servers: '~'
service_ensure: '~'
xstartup_template: '~'
environment: production
parameters:
from_cobbler: 1
refresh: true
servers:
- user: pete
- args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16
service_ensure: true
tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64
xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb
I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping the resultant
breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such luck. I am stumped.
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.
--
\*..+.-
--Greg Chavez
+//..;};
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+//..;};
1:02 p.m.
The proper RPM is available in EPEL, and is currently version 2.4.0-1.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM, <pat.somas(a)sungard.com> wrote:
Where can I download the proper rpm
(cobbler-2.0.7-5.el5sat.TEST.00387446.3.noarch.rpm)
?****
** **
**- **Pat somas ****
** **
** **
Pat Somas • Sr. Systems Engineer • SunGard • Financial Systems • 377 E.
Butterfield Rd, Suite 800, Lombard, IL 60148****
Tel 630-850-5327 • Mobile 630-853-1091 • Fax 630-515-1913 •
www.sungard.com****
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**
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*From:* cobbler-bounces(a)lists.fedorahosted.org [mailto:
cobbler-bounces(a)lists.fedorahosted.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Chavez
*Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:48 PM
*To:* cobbler mailing list
*Subject:* Re: [cobbler] using parameterized mgmt classes****
** **
David, that was a terrible post on my part. I've already apologized to
jimi_c on IRC. Was very frustrated that day.****
** **
For what it's worth, I too am trying to move toward Ansible, but it's hard
to get buy-in.****
** **
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:28 PM, David Birdsong <david.birdsong(a)gmail.com>
wrote:****
** **
** **
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com>
wrote:****
Ah ha. So for the time being I have to create a separate management class
object for every unique declaration of a parameterized class.****
** **
At a certain point, doesn't it just make sense to say "Cobbler supports
puppet 100% and support for other tools vary" instead of "Cobbler supports
configuration management 100%"? How many people use Cobbler with a config
tool that is not Puppet?****
** **
I do. I've used Cfengine, Chef, Puppet, and now days I use Ansible.****
** **
Please do not cater only to Puppet.****
****
** **
I only say this because I fear we're going in a direction with config
management that is no longer intuitive. How can I help?****
** **
** **
** **
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:50 PM, James Cammarata <jimi(a)sngx.net> wrote:**
**
The parameters go in the variables section of the mgmt class, not in
ksmeta (I will do variable substitutions from ksmeta in the future, but for
now it doesn't).****
** **
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Greg Chavez <greg.chavez(a)gmail.com>
wrote:****
I suspect I am being obtuse here. I'm trying to use the arusso/vnc module
from puppet forge which is declared like this:
class { 'vnc':
refresh => true,
servers => [ 'user' => 'pete',
'args' => '-geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16' ],****
service_ensure => true,
xstartup_template => 'myclass/xstartup.erb',
}
Via the Web console, I did the following:****
** **
--------------------****
** **
(1) Created management class "vnc":****
**** name: vnc****
**** class name: vnc****
**** parameters/variables: service_ensure xstartup_template refresh servers
****
** **
(2) In system object:
**** selected class "vnc"****
**** Added yaml to management parameters which was converted to:****
** **
{ service_ensure: True, xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb, refresh:
True, servers: [{'user': 'pete'}, {'args': '-geometry
1920x1200 -depth
16'}] }
--------------------****
** **
However, this is what cobbler-ext-node returns for the system:****
** **
~> cobbler-ext-nodes pete.local****
classes:****
site: {}****
vnc:****
refresh: '~'****
servers: '~'****
service_ensure: '~'****
xstartup_template: '~'****
environment: production****
parameters:****
from_cobbler: 1****
refresh: true****
servers:****
- user: pete****
- args: -geometry 1920x1200 -depth 16****
service_ensure: true****
tree: http://@@http_server@@/cblr/links/centos-6.4-x86_64****
xstartup_template: vnc/xstartup.erb****
** **
I didn't think that this would work the way I did it, but I was hoping the
resultant breakage would give me a clue as to how to fix. No such luck. I
am stumped.****
** **
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Mahalo in advance.****
** **
--
\*..+.-
--Greg Chavez
+//..;};****
** **
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