I would like to start the ball rolling on which document we should all
work together to get completed in order for the Docs Project to be a
In my mind, this would be the Install Guide?
What are your thoughts and how far along is this?
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Open Source. Open Solutions(tm).
How does http://ubuntuguide.org/ stack up against our fedorafaq.org?
I think ours is better.
Are we planning to freeze a version of fedorafaq.org and make an official
one, for every release?
I would like that and be happy to be part of the conversion.
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Open Source. Open Solutions(tm).
Full legal name: Michael Thomas Kearey
City, Country: Brisbane Australia
Profession or Student status: Employed by Red Hat Global Support
Company or School: Red Hat
Your goals in the Fedora Project
* What do you want to write about?: I want to write about anything and
everything involved with Fedora Core.
* What other documentation do you want to see published?: Details of
how HAL works, improved and definitive initscripts/fedora scripts
* Do you want to edit for grammar/writing and/or technical accuracy?: I
do want to edit for grammar/writing and technical accuracy.
* Anything else special?: Am greatly interested in how to make a new
user's experience less challenging through the use of good
* What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past?: Have
been writing Knowledge Base articles in my roll with Red Hat GSS, and
have written howto's and guides in my previous employment.
* What level and type of computer skills do you have?: I have
experience in the Telecommunications industry ( 14 years :0 ). Have also
completed a degree in Information Technology majoring in combined Data
Communications/Software Engineering. Have done my own project work in C,
C++, PHP, Perl, Java. Worked on iptables/firewall design, scripting,
some feeble RPM packaging, PAM custom modules, QoS configuration, and a
lot of System Administration. Am also playing with a home lighting
automation system, writing a little code to control the system from a
Linux machine but that is in early development.
* What other skills do you have that might be applicable?: I have
skills in sharing knowledge, am able to simplify and clarify complicated
technical issues. Being with Red Hat GSS I get to see first hand what
people really need to know. Out side of computing, I am currently
building a house, so have some skills in managing widely varying
Why should we trust you? <--- too blunt?:
I have do have a Red Fedora :). I am also all grown up and responsible.
GPG KEYID and fingerprint
$ gpg --fingerprint mkearey(a)redhat.com
pub 1024D/69052F83 2005-04-11 Michael T Kearey (Fedora Docs)
Key fingerprint = FB5D 45FF C9FB 7950 6741 FE8D 30DD 6DD6 6905
sub 1024g/15865663 2005-04-11
Michael Kearey Website: http://apac.redhat.com
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We've been trying to pull together the components to make the release
notes an effort of the Fedora community. This means developers
collaborating with writers.
This will not mean what it has in the past, with developers throwing
some bits over the wall for release notes and sometimes reading and
commenting on the drafts. When Fedora had someone paid to write
relnotes, this worked. If we can't make this work as a community effort
with resources from writers _and_ developers, we may not have any
The first pass at an idea is on this page, scroll down to Release Notes
Process - Iteration One, April 2005:
The basic idea is to break the relnotes down into modules for individual
or teams of writers to tackle. Then you would have one or more writers
dedicated to a project or subset of Linux, such as kernel, network
services, printing, UI/desktop, SELinux, etc. Then it is easier to keep
the dedicated writing resource informed throughout the development
Hopefully this makes it possible for a volunteer writer to actually have
a chance to write an accurate relnotes piece in time for test or
I'd like to keep this part of the discussion f-devel-l, but have Cc:'d
f-docs-l so everyone is aware it. Reply-to is set to keep the
discussion on f-devel-list.
We're also debating the merits of single source in Wiki or DocBook/XML.
Advantages of the former are the ease of collaboration and getting new
writers able to contribute sooner. The advantages of XML are too
numerous to mention, but it does suffer from a longer learning curve.
If you have any comments on that, the tool choice discussion is
happening on f-docs-l. Regardless, we'll make sure the release notes
are in the proper format on the file system for Anaconda to use.
Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/
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Red Hat SELinux Guide
This is probably well worhtwhile for the release notes
Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
I believe that I have gotten most of the "FIX ME's". I know that there
are still a couple left, but I will most likely be fixing those tonight
or tomorrow, so keep checking back if they aren't fixed by the time you
look at it.
I think I've also covered all the bases suggested by those that gave
feed back. Once I fix the last few things (and any new suggestions that
may come up) I'll repost it to the bug, and hopefully move on to formal
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On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:27 -0400, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:49 -0400, David Malcolm wrote:
> > Surely there must be a GPL-friendly PNG handler in Java somewhere? How
> > hard would it be to rewrite this part of FOP? What's the status of
> > getting a natively-compiled FOP into Fedora?
> There's a gdk-pixbuf-based PNG decoder in libgcj's javax.imageio
> implementation. No encoder though.
How about the imageio stuff from the java-gui-branch? I've
successfully rendered PNG images using the java-gui-20050128-branch, so
this should be available in gcc4 as well.
> Probably the most efficient way to get a GPL-compatible Java PNG
> encoder is to package JMagick.
Before libgcj got imageio writing support, I also used PndEncoder,
which is a pure-java encoder (LGPL).
I've been looking into using Apache FOP to render PDF's, instead of the
buggy-as-a-summer-night PassiveTeX. While there is a FOP rewrite under
way, the latest public version has a show-stopper bug triggered by
DocBook projects larger than something trivial: the dreaded "duplicate
Riz Virk <Riz(a)cambridgedocs.com> kindly sent me a patch that appears to
eliminate the bug. I tried it out on a ~300 page document I'm writing
and it rendered PDF just fine. The patch is licensed under the Apache
license, so it should be OK for our use here.
The patch is attached.
Just download the FOP source from
Replace the file "src/org/apache/fop/datatypes/IDReferences.java" with
the attached file.
Go back to the top-level FOP directory and type:
You'll need to get "ant" and the "java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-126.96.36.199-11jpp"
packages from the "jpackage.org" YUM repository. You'll also need the
If you don't want to go to this trouble, the 1.5MB "fop.jar" file is
This, plus the modified "xmlto" I did earlier may be good enough
until the FOP rewrite is complete (no date for that, though).
Full legal name:
Philip (Matthew) Johnson
Manchester, United Kingdom
Profession or Student status:
To be honest, I don't have any sound qualifications as I've never
really needed any - I'm a freelance new media designer and developer
who tends to use LAMP across the board. In case anyones interested,
I've worked for big household names in the UK such as House of Fraser
(training presentations and other internal bits 'n' bobs) right down to
teensy weeny folk bands such as The Oldham Tinkers (NB: I did /not/
design The Oldham Tinkers website in case anyone goes searching for it
: o ) - Me no like myPHPNuke nor the design the website uses; I was
employed a couple of times to fix things server and database side).
I've also done a fair amount of Mac administration and Linux
administration (the latter more, a lot of the time it comes as part of
deploying and maintaining sites). The designing and developing I've
been doing for about 7 or 8 years now.
Company or School
I'm not going to be doing any of this Fedora Project work for either,
but in case thats not what you meant, as I said before I'm a freelance
new media designer and developer.
Your goals in the Fedora Project:
(in order of priority)
* The Hardware Compatibility Database (HCL), along with Doncho Gunchev
* Help out with other documentation (release notes etc.)
* Help out new users when (and if!) I have the time
What other projects have you worked on in the past?
I'm still quite new when it comes to contributing to oss, as I haven't
had the time in the past, but heres my extremely short list :)
* Mozilla.org Bug Hunting & Triaging
* Contributing (a little bit!) to the GNOME mailing list and the
discussions that go on there
* ^ Same again but for the various Fedora mailing lists
* This isn't open source, but I developed applications in flash for
the Pogo PDA/Phone which is now unfortunately no longer available
(except on ebay! - and then the internet doesn't work)
* I've also contributed miniscule amounts of things in various other
What computer languages and other skills do you know?
* I'm attempting to learn python properly (i.e - at the moment my
python knowledge is ****)
* Of course, HTML, PHP, Flash Actionscript etc. as goes with my job
* A bit of XML, I would have included this in the second bullet point
but tbh my knowledge of XML isn't that great
* Other skills: bits 'n' bobs here there and everywhere, I've dabbled
in practically everything (well thats a slight exaggeration, but seen
as you lot probably share the same passion for computers as I do I'm
sure you know what I mean :-D)
Why should we trust you?
* You shouldn't ;-) Like I said before I'm fairly new to contributing
(I've just observed and posted ideas, nothing else) so you're going to
have to give me a trial run and I'll have to bear in mind that you
only get once chance at a first impression :-D. Also, you'll find that
(well I hope so anyway) I'm generally a very friendly and considerate
Hope I've covered everything,
Philip Johnson (plasticmonkey(a)gmail.com)
> Um, yes, that's the plan.
There's been quite a bit
> of list traffic
> about this in the recent past. :-)
hmm. I wasnt reading through all of the mails. I will
check the archives
BTW, why does
> your MUA keep dropping
> thread information?
no idea. now that I have got my official email id I
can use that and this problem will go away
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