10:52 a.m.
iirc there was talk months ago about switching from moin moin to plone.
i wasn't privy to the discussions around that, i just heard it was
happening. is that still planned? do we need help with that? or, was
that idea scrapped?
sam
10:55 a.m.
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
iirc there was talk months ago about switching from moin moin to
plone.
i wasn't privy to the discussions around that, i just heard it was
happening. is that still planned? do we need help with that? or, was
that idea scrapped?
sam
We still need help.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PloneToDo
Rahul
11:04 a.m.
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 21:25 +0530, Rahul wrote:
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
> iirc there was talk months ago about switching from moin moin to plone.
> i wasn't privy to the discussions around that, i just heard it was
> happening. is that still planned? do we need help with that? or, was
> that idea scrapped?
>
> sam
>
We still need help.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PloneToDo
OK - reading that page brings me to another question I've had recently.
What defines the separation between fedora.redhat.com and
fedoraproject.org? I wonder if it's confusing to have both sites and if
fedoraproject.org shouldn't be the only/primary site here.
It sounds like the plan for plone is not to replace the wiki - i.e. we'd
still use moin-moin but some content would be in plone and some in moin
moin. Do we need further discussion around better defining the need for
plone, and what would be accomplished by having both systems in place?
Or how do we define what goes where? This could also be a good place to
discuss fedora.redhat.com..
Or maybe this is more of a mktg question. In any case, I can help with
the needed upgrades, etc.
Sam
Rahul
11:14 a.m.
Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 21:25 +0530, Rahul wrote:
> Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
>> iirc there was talk months ago about switching from moin moin to plone.
>> i wasn't privy to the discussions around that, i just heard it was
>> happening. is that still planned? do we need help with that? or, was
>> that idea scrapped?
>>
>> sam
>>
> We still need help.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PloneToDo
>
OK - reading that page brings me to another question I've had recently.
What defines the separation between fedora.redhat.com and
fedoraproject.org? I wonder if it's confusing to have both sites and if
fedoraproject.org shouldn't be the only/primary site here.
fedora.redhat.com is dying. It even says so in the frontpage of that
website that we are transiting into fedoraproject.org as the only site.
It sounds like the plan for plone is not to replace the wiki - i.e. we'd
still use moin-moin but some content would be in plone and some in moin
moin. Do we need further discussion around better defining the need for
plone, and what would be accomplished by having both systems in place?
Or how do we define what goes where? This could also be a good place to
discuss fedora.redhat.com..
Or maybe this is more of a mktg question. In any case, I can help with
the needed upgrades, etc.
We basically need to move off all the infrastructure stuff from
fedora.redhat.com, launch fedoraproject.org with Plone taking care of
the frontpage with a nice design and good content and then take it from
there. Detailed analysis of what is required in the wiki vs cms is *not*
something we need to do now. It just delays the process. Get the basics
then and we will figure out the rest later.
If you are going to interested in helping out, just talk to the people
referred to in that page. I dont want to see yet another long discussion
on this. Just do it.
Rahul
11:30 a.m.
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 21:44 +0530, Rahul wrote:
If you are going to interested in helping out, just talk to the
people
referred to in that page. I dont want to see yet another long discussion
on this. Just do it.
Alrighty then, will do. Like I said, I wasn't privy to earlier
discussions, so I apologize for bringing up discussion points that have
already been discussed.
Thanks for the info.
Sam
Rahul
4:21 p.m.
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 12:30 -0400, Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 21:44 +0530, Rahul wrote:
> If you are going to interested in helping out, just talk to the people
> referred to in that page. I dont want to see yet another long discussion
> on this. Just do it.
>
Alrighty then, will do. Like I said, I wasn't privy to earlier
discussions, so I apologize for bringing up discussion points that have
already been discussed.
No worries. :) And help is definitely the catching point; FC6 has been
distracting of late for many people, and we always decide to "wait until
after the release."
The deal with Plone + Moin is like this:
Plone -
* Gives us a nice front page that we cannot do with Moin (tried and
the best we have is on the front of fp.o currently)
* Gives us a way to publish formal documentation with a workflow to
ensure that it is properly written, edited, and so forth; current system
on f.r.c is too manual, requires too much training, is antiquated, and
based on PHP, which FInfrastructure does not support
Wiki -
* Project based documentation (most likely, since people just do it)
* FDP drafting (Docs/Drafts)
* Docs/Beats
So, Plone serves the front page, and the Wiki + Wiki content + Plone
content is linked from there.
- Karsten
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