Greetings Project Leader, Sir,
I do see your points and I agree that it's all a bit of a confusion
as to
where new users should be directed to.
Actually, I myself joined only a month ago and I must admit the
Fedora Join
SIG did actually get me confused at first.
The link to the Fedora Join SIG Docs:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
I think should be moved to :
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join-sig
instead which may ease the confusion a bit.
Finallly, I am all for having a user-focused "Join Fedora '' docs
section on
docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join SIG
docs.
Maybe we could rename the Fedora Join SIG, "Fedora Mentors" as it is
essentially what they do. When helping out new contributors. This
will
allow us to further avoid confusion.
Mentoring newcomers is one of the TEAM activities.. amount others....
we organize classroom session, contribute in askfedora/discussion site,
write quick-docs, etc...
I don't know this name will be confusing with other activities in
mentoring which fedora has.
Also I felt a little nervous writing an email to the big project
leader.
Thanks,
Ahmed Almeleh
He / Him / His
Fedora QA
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 18:01, Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
wrote:
> I often want to send people to Join Fedora, to, you know, Join
> Fedora. :)
>
> But I'm actually a little confused where to start.
>
>
> Héctor is re-doing
https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/, and that's
> going to
> be
> nice, but I don't think it's ready and also I don't necessarily
> think it's
> the right path for everyone.
>
> The first google hit that comes up is
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join,
> but ... that's pretty old, not very well maintained, and doesn't
> really
> represent current activities in the project very well. Plus, I do
> not want
> to send new folks into the minefield that is the wiki right away.
>
> Also, "join.fedoraproject.org" currently links there.
>
>
> Then, there's this:
>
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/
>
> which I _think_ is helpful, but I find somewhat confusing because
> it mixes
> up the business of the Join SIG (that is, all the helpful people
> working to
> provide a nice onboarding process) with the onboarding process
> itself.
>
> That page points to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Welcome,
> which...
>
> 1. Is frighteningly bare-bones.
> 2. Has the "it's the wiki" problem again
> 3. Points to Telegram — I don't have a problem with that as a
> platform to
> bring people on, but as a service outside of project control,
> shouldn't
> be where we start. (If people are on and comfortable with
> Telegram,
> cool,
> let's meet them there. But I don't want to give the impression
> that
> signing up for telegram is a first step to
> 4. Also IRC; that's a temporary problem until we get
>
chat.fedoraproject.org
> officially launched, though.
>
>
> Anyway, in short, what's the link I should use for someone who
> wants to get
> involved?
>
> And, leading question: should we have a user-focused "Join Fedora"
> docs
> section on
docs.fedoraproject.org that is separate from the Join
> SIG docs?
>
>
> --
> Matthew Miller
> <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Fedora Project Leader
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