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--- Comment #1 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-07 04:06:31 EST --- (In reply to comment #0)

Probably I don't understand your problem.

Do you use the latest ibus? Currently ibus-1.4.0-11 or ibus-1.4.0-14 is available. # yum install ibus % rpm -q ibus ibus-1.4.0-11.fc16.x86_64

Did you configure the system keyboard settings using 'systemsettings' command?

If you run '/usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get' when ibus-daemon is running, what is shown?

% /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --help % /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get layout: in,us,jp model: eng,euro, option: ctrl:swapcaps,grp:shift_caps_toggle,compose:rctrl

Actually ibus runs 'ibus-xkb -l ${layout} -m ${model} -o ${option}' internally.

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--- Comment #3 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-07 05:09:13 EST --- (In reply to comment #2)

...

/usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get

/usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get layout: fi model: option: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

With xev I can see that input is correctly öä when I press those keys, but what actually appears everywhere is ;' just like what would be there in US keyboard.

Hmm.., I cannot reproduce your problem. I can show 'öä' with ;' keys.

ibus just gets the current system keyboard layouts. 1. Enable 'Use system keyboard layout' and close ibus-setup. 2. Choose [Quit] menu item on ibus status icon menu and exit ibus at once. 3. Set 'fi' layout. % /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb -l fi -o terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp 4. Check the current layout. % /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get layout: fi model: option: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp 5. Run ibus-daemon % ibus-daemon --xim & 6. Check the current layout again. % /usr/libexec/ibus-xkb --get layout: fi model: option: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

How is the result about 'öä'?

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--- Comment #5 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-07 20:07:39 EST --- (In reply to comment #4)

(In reply to comment #3)

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1. Enable 'Use system keyboard layout' and close ibus-setup.

I don't want to enable that! With that setting I'm unable to type Russian properly. If I can't type other languages, I might as well not use ibus in the first place.

Can you explain what is your problem with detail when you type Russian? Probably I'd think the system keyboard needs to be enabled in your env.

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--- Comment #7 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-08 05:14:35 EST --- (In reply to comment #6)

It is impossible to type ю with the "Use system keyboard" setting enabled. On US keyboard it comes from the key before "1" which makes "`". On Finnish keyboard that comes from a key between "?" and question mark. Even if that wouldn't be a cumbersome place to type ю, it doesn't even work since it is a dead key, meaning that I have to press space to get plain `, otherwise I get something like à depending which key I press. It just doesn't work with ibus.

I don't understand how you need to type 'ю'. I checked Finnish keyboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Finnish_multilingual It seems it has no 'ю' key. Also I don't understand a key between "?" and question mark. "?" is not a question mark?

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--- Comment #9 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-08 05:36:28 EST --- (In reply to comment #8)

I'm trying to tell you that ibus is useless with the "Use system keyboad" setting, because I cannot use other input methods like Russian properly with Finnish keyboard mapping.

So I don't understand how you type 'ю'. Why don't you add Russian layout? It seems you configure 'fi' only with KDE systemsettings. You could set XKB two layouts 'fi' and 'ru' with XKB options.

On the other hand I cannot use my regular keyboard layout without the "Use system keyboard" setting if ibus is running. In F15 I just used ctrl+space to turn ibus off, but that is not possible anymore, even the xkb layouts go through ibus, which takes the "Use system keyboard" setting into account.

Yes, now we try to integrate both XKB and input methods in one place.

question mark should have read backspace.

Did you mistake?

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--- Comment #11 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-08 05:51:52 EST --- It seems the bug report is not good for me since it doesn't give the basic information. I will read this tomorrow again.

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--- Comment #13 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-12 05:31:02 EST --- When I investigated the case of enabled 'Use system keyboard', I found another problem.

I still think the solution in enabled 'Use system keyboard' but now I need to know what is the problem when 'Use system keyboard' is disabled.

I use an 'us' physical keyboard. When the keymap is 'fi', 'Use system keyboard' is disabled and m17n:ru:phonetic is enabled, I can type almost Russian keys.

Which keys cannot be typed in your environment?

The following is my result: ю1234567890+ч явертыуиопшщэ асдфгхйклöä зьцжбнм,.-

I noticed the '+' and '-' are wrong but I could type 'ю'.

Is this your problem?

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--- Comment #15 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-12 20:28:43 EST --- (In reply to comment #14)

• I use fin/swe physical keyboard.
• "Use system keyboard" is checked
• System keyboard: fi

Using phonetic russian from m17n:

§1234567890Ч´ явертыуиопå¨ асдфгхйклöä' <зьцжбнм,.-

Yes, I know this problem. I'm asking the disabled 'Use system keyboard' instead.

As you can see many letters are missing. ´¨' are the dead keys and what they print if I press them twice.

If I disable the "Use system keyboard" I get:

ю1234567890+ч явертыуиопшщ асдфгхйклöäэ <зьцжбнм,.-

There are probably also differences in shift and altgr states.

So are your problems that '+', '-' and shift and altgr states?

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--- Comment #17 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2011-12-30 00:26:09 EST --- Niklas Laxström:

Can you confirm my question?

(In reply to comment #15)

(In reply to comment #14)

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There are probably also differences in shift and altgr states.

So are your problems that '+', '-' and shift and altgr states?

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--- Comment #19 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2012-01-04 22:59:06 EST --- (In reply to comment #18)

The problem is that with the "Use system keyboard (fi)" setting, when I try to type with ru-phonetic, I get the first of the keyboard listings, which does not have ю, ш or щ.

But I obviously need to have that setting enabled, or I can't type Finnish because the default US layout that is used when that setting is disabled does not contain letters ö,ä, or å.

This is still valid with ibus 1.4.0.

You didn't reply my question yet. I understood the problem when the system keyboard is enabled. You don't have to repeat the same problem.

I'm asking the problem when the system keyboard is disabled because if the only enabled problem is fixed, you will see the same disabled problem again even if you enable the setting.

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Niklas Laxström:

Can you confirm my question?

(In reply to comment #15)

...

(In reply to comment #14)

...

There are probably also differences in shift and altgr states.

So are your problems that '+', '-' and shift and altgr states?

So are your problems that '+', '-' and shift and altgr states?

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--- Comment #21 from fujiwara tfujiwar@redhat.com 2012-01-13 01:19:48 EST --- (In reply to comment #20)

I don't quite understand what you are asking. If the system keyboard is disabled, I can't type Finnish with the default xkb layout, because then it acts like an US keyboard which doesn't have å, ä or ö.

Can you explain the problem exactly when the system keyboard is disabled. I'm thinking to downgrade this priority as I didn't get the reply.

When the system keyboard is disabled and Finnish XKB layout is used, I think you can type all chars on Finnish keyboard if ibus-m17n ru input method is disabled. So I think it acts Finnish perfectly but does *not* act likes US keyboard.

When the system keyboard is disabled and Finnish XKB layout is used, I think you *cannot* type some Russian chars if ibus-m17n ru input method is *enabled*.

So I have the different behavior with yours.

There is no problem typing Russian if the system keyboard layout setting is disabled, because those input methods usually expect US keyboard layout.

I don't think so.

If the US xkb layout is used: ю1234567890-ч явертыуиопшщэ асдфгхйкл;' зьцжбнм,./

If the Finnish xkb layout is used: ю1234567890+ч явертыуиопшщэ асдфгхйклöä зьцжбнм,.-

I thnk you cannot type ;'/ with Finnish keyboard + ibus-m17n ru. Also the position of '-' is different.

And I'm asking the problem in this case the system keyboard is disabled.

(In reply to comment #17) So are your problems that '+', '-' and shift and altgr states?

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