2013-10-14 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131014
Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-10-21 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131021 . Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
* "adamw to co-ordinate with anaconda team to get a new anaconda
build done and roll TC2" - this was done, TC2 went ahead and
by meeting time we were on TC3/TC4
* "tflink and handsome_pirate to write up detailed proposals for
projects to be worked on in a possible longer f21 schedule and
post / link to them in the trac ticket" - tflink wrote up his
proposal[1] and submitted it to FESCo; viking-ice floated his
on anaconda-devel-list but had little response from
developers. tflink's proposal was viewed favourably by FESCo
and it appears[2] there will be at least some extension of the
F21 schedule in response to it and other considerations: F21
release no earlier than August 2014
TOPIC: Fedora 20 Beta status
=======================================================================
* TC2 was built and quite comprehensively tested, gave us a
good overview of current status
* TC3 was built but the DVD compose failed as the attempt to
remove gimp-help subpackages to save space[3] caused compose
problems.[4] TC4 was immediately built with the gimp-help
subpackage removal reverted to ensure a successful compose,
so TC4's DVD image is over-size, but it is otherwise fully
testable, and TC3 is a dead letter
* TC4 should work on the Beaglebone Black and ought to be
tested on it
* We agreed that in principle we would support a freeze
exception proposal for GNOME 3.10.1 to land just after Beta
freeze
TOPIC: Test Day result tracking
=======================================================================
* jskladan wrote a webapp for tracking Test Day results[5],
documented here[6]
* We agreed that the Test Day SOP[7] should be updated to
recommend use of the webapp for tracking Test Day results
(only), with the results to be copied into the Test Day wiki
page soon after the event ends (so as not to rely on the app
as a long term data store)
TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
N/A
Action items
=======================================================================
* roshi will update the Test Day SOP as agreed (encourage use
of webapp for tracking test day results)
1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/f21_delay_taskbot_development_...
2. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-09/fesco.2013-10-...
3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000891#c12
4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000891#c20
5. http://testdays.qa.fedoraproject.org/testdays
6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jskladan/Sandbox:TestdayApp
7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-10-10)
by Stephen John Smoogen
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-10-10)
============================================
Meeting started by smooge at 19:01:16 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-10/infrastructure...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* welcome to all and to all a welcome (smooge, 19:01:31)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (smooge, 19:03:19)
* Apprentices please email smooge@fedoraproject with ideas on what
apprenticeship means to them and what they want to do. (smooge,
19:09:24)
* Applications status / discussion (smooge, 19:10:54)
* LINK:
https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg/commit/c857d15f75736528c870a74a05e...
found it (ianweller, 19:19:56)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (smooge, 19:29:30)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (smooge, 19:41:21)
* Open Floor (smooge, 19:46:05)
Meeting ended at 19:58:08 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* smooge (90)
--
Stephen J Smoogen.
10 years, 6 months
Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-10-11)
by Alick Zhao
Hi all,
The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks
everyone for attending the meeting.
In the meeting we talked about FUDCon bid progress.
Please review the proposed ideas and actions.
The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-10-18). Please
come and join the discussion if you can!
[1]:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-10-11/fedora-zh.2013-10-1...
==================
#fedora-zh Meeting
==================
Meeting started by alick at 13:00:30 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-10-11/fedora-zh.2013-10-1...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* 点名 (alick, 13:00:44)
* FUDCon 申办 (alick, 13:08:41)
* 策划书可能下周完成 (alick, 13:11:07)
* LINK:
http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2012/05/fudcon-kuala-lumpur-2012-post.html
(alick, 13:12:38)
* As usual, 50% no-show rule applies for free event in Malaysia. We
had almost 500 registrants on the website, but only about 260-80
attended throughout the 3 days. (alick, 13:13:25)
* 2012 吉隆坡预先注册有将近 500 人，实到不到 300 人。 (alick, 13:14:15)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Budget
(alick, 13:16:03)
* ACTION: Kraks dongfengweixiao 查阅往年 FUDCon 人数、报销花费的信息
(alick,
13:20:27)
* 中文翻译 (alick, 13:50:01)
* Fedora 使用交流 (alick, 13:52:19)
* 自由讨论 (alick, 13:55:42)
Meeting ended at 14:01:08 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Kraks dongfengweixiao 查阅往年 FUDCon 人数、报销花费的信息
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Kraks dongfengweixiao 查阅往年 FUDCon 人数、报销花费的信息
People Present (lines said)
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* alick (78)
* zsun (29)
* tonghuix (28)
* tonghuix_ (12)
* zodbot (8)
* BadGirl (4)
* endle (2)
* tiansworld1 (1)
* chenchacha (1)
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Fedora ARM Status Meeting Minutes 2013-10-09
by Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below:
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-10-09/fedora-meeti...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-10-09/fedora-meeti...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-10-09/fedora-meeti...
============================================
#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM status meeting
============================================
Meeting summary
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* 1) Kernel Status Update (pwhalen, 20:03:37)
* kylem got the BBB working over the last week, commit forthcoming
(pwhalen, 20:05:31)
* 2a) Aarch64 - Status Update (pwhalen, 20:12:20)
* 2b) Aarch64 - Koji Update (pwhalen, 20:17:24)
* 3) F20 Beta TC2 Testing (pwhalen, 20:18:43)
* LINK: Installation:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
(pwhalen, 20:18:50)
* LINK: Base:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test
(pwhalen, 20:18:50)
* LINK: Desktop:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
(pwhalen, 20:18:50)
* 4) Open Floor (pwhalen, 20:23:46)
* AGREED: Next fedora-arm meeting on Nov 6 (bconoboy, 20:35:31)
* AGREED: ARM Status Meetings to be scheduled on the first Wednesday
of every month - next meeting Nov 6th (pwhalen, 20:35:32)
Meeting ended at 20:36:58 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* pwhalen (50)
* bconoboy (25)
* kylem (14)
* handsome_pirate (14)
* zodbot (8)
* ahs3 (4)
* dmarlin (4)
* dgilmore (3)
* jcapik (1)
* msalter (0)
* jdisnard (0)
* pbrobinson (0)
* ctyler (0)
* agreene (0)
* jonmasters (0)
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Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo Meeting (2013-10-09)
by Marcela Mašláňová
===================================
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-10-09)
===================================
Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:01:03 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-10-09/fesco.2013-10-...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* init process (mmaslano, 18:04:37)
* #1178 Fedora 21 scheduling strategy (mmaslano, 18:04:44)
* AGREED: schedule on hold by January, then no earlier than August
(+5,-1,0) (mmaslano, 18:29:36)
* #1179 Interactions of the various Products (mmaslano, 18:40:18)
* #1180 Build virt-preview in Koji (mmaslano, 18:42:41)
* ACTION: mmaslano will ask about arm in copr (mmaslano, 18:50:36)
* ACTION: mmaslano will ask about automatically produce repo config
files by copr (mmaslano, 18:54:35)
* Next week's chair (mmaslano, 18:56:28)
* ACTION: sgallagh will be chairman on 16th (mmaslano, 18:57:41)
* Open Floor (mmaslano, 18:57:48)
Meeting ended at 19:00:37 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* mmaslano will ask about arm in copr
* mmaslano will ask about automatically produce repo config files by
copr
* sgallagh will be chairman on 16th
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mmaslano
* mmaslano will ask about arm in copr
* mmaslano will ask about automatically produce repo config files by
copr
* sgallagh
* sgallagh will be chairman on 16th
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* sgallagh (83)
* mmaslano (64)
* mattdm (46)
* handsome_pirate (30)
* tflink (29)
* mitr (22)
* jreznik (20)
* pjones (17)
* notting (15)
* rwmjones (12)
* dgilmore (9)
* zodbot (7)
* mclasen (5)
* crobinso (3)
* nirik (0)
* abadger1999 (0)
* t8m (0)
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F20 Beta Blocker Bug Review #3 Minutes
by Tim Flink
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#fedora-blocker-review: f20beta-blocker-review-3
================================================
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-10-09/f20beta...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-10-09/f20beta...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-10-09/f20beta...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:25)
* Introduction (tflink, 16:05:45)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze
exception bugs. (tflink, 16:05:54)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:06:00)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(tflink, 16:06:00)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:06:05)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink,
16:06:05)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink,
16:06:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
(tflink, 16:06:12)
* Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:06:17)
* 6 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:06:26)
* 12 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:06:26)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:26)
* 5 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:26)
* (1009809) KeyError: 'name' (tflink, 16:07:58)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009809 (tflink,
16:07:58)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 16:07:59)
* AGREED: 1009809 - RejectedBlocker - As stated in the F20 beta
criteria, only one of [nfs, nfsiso] is required to work for beta. As
nfs package sources have been confirmed to work, this is rejected as
a release blocking bug for f20 beta. (tflink, 16:11:08)
* (1013586) SizeNotPositiveError: spec= param must be >=0 (tflink,
16:11:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013586 (tflink,
16:11:16)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:11:16)
* AGREED: 1013586 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 beta
release criterion for partitions not created using parted: "When
using the guided partitioning flow, the installer must be able to
... Complete an installation using any combination of disk
configuration options it allows the user to select" (tflink,
16:18:06)
* (1015220) can't log in as ordinary user after text install unless
under user spoke, password field is last one filled out (tflink,
16:18:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1015220 (tflink,
16:18:32)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, VERIFIED (tflink, 16:18:34)
* AGREED: 1015220 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha
release criterion for text installs where the user password isn't
the last spoke entered: "A system installed without a graphical
package set must boot to a state where it is possible to log in
through at least one of the default virtual consoles." (tflink,
16:23:23)
* (1016927) Fedora 20 Beta TC2 Anaconda Netinstall gets error checking
software configuration (tflink, 16:23:36)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1016927 (tflink,
16:23:39)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:23:42)
* AGREED: 1016927 - This would be a blocker if the broken packages
were actually on any images but it was fixed quickly enough such
that it was never included. Thus, it is rejected as a release
blocking bug for f20 beta. (tflink, 16:34:11)
* (1016959) ValueError: Cannot remove non-leaf device 'btrfs.14'
(tflink, 16:34:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1016959 (tflink,
16:34:27)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:34:30)
* AGREED: 1016959 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 beta
release criterion, assuming that the disk layout in question is not
considered valid: "When using the custom partitioning flow, the
installer must be able to ... Reject or disallow invalid disk and
volume configurations without crashing." (tflink, 17:00:13)
* (1015234) F20 Beta TC1 ARM disk images unable to find root filesystem
(tflink, 17:01:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1015234 (tflink,
17:01:34)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 17:01:36)
* AGREED: 1015234 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha
release criterion for ARM images in virt and on bare-metal: "A
system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log
in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using
a user account created during installation or a 'first boot'
utility." (tflink, 17:09:19)
* (1011714) btrfs scrub finds csum corruption after btrfs balance
(tflink, 17:12:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1011714 (tflink,
17:12:45)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kernel, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:12:47)
* AGREED: 1011714 - We'd like to see more information on how
big/invasive/risky this patch is before making a decision on FE,
will ask relevant devs and revisit at the next review meeting
(tflink, 17:31:46)
* (1015731) netinstall f20 Beta TC-1 x86_64 of sugar-desktop boots to
console login (tflink, 17:32:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1015731 (tflink,
17:32:07)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar, NEW (tflink, 17:32:09)
* AGREED: 1015731 - AcceptedFreezeException - This prevents
sugar-desktop from booting or functioning properly after install. As
a secondary DE, a tested fix would be considered after freeze.
(tflink, 17:37:05)
* (901917) rescue a fedora system mode doesn't recognize luks
installation (tflink, 17:40:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=901917 (tflink,
17:40:22)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:40:25)
* this has been verified, pushed stable and closed (tflink, 17:40:32)
* (986575) installer fails to apply lower bound to resize requests in
custom spoke (tflink, 17:41:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986575 (tflink,
17:41:17)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:41:19)
* no apparant movement on this bug yet (tflink, 17:42:23)
* devs are aware of the issue, proposed it as a blocker (tflink,
17:42:33)
* (1010495) Apple Mac EFI: you have not created a bootloader stage1
target device (tflink, 17:48:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010495 (tflink,
17:48:20)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:48:23)
* work on this has been moving along, doesn't appear as if anything is
needed from us at this time (tflink, 17:48:40)
* there is an updates.img, it has not been rolled into anaconda as of
20.23-1 (tflink, 17:49:31)
* (1012504) FSError: filesystem already exists (tflink, 17:49:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012504 (tflink,
17:49:52)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:49:52)
* this is no longer an issue and it can now be closed (tflink,
17:51:18)
* (1000891) DVD is oversized (larger than 4.7 GB) (tflink, 17:52:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000891 (tflink,
17:52:05)
* Accepted Blocker, distribution, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:52:05)
* F20 beta TC2 is still oversize (tflink, 17:52:19)
* a different fix is needed than the KS exclusion, looking for a
different method to exclude the gimp-help files (tflink, 17:53:07)
* devs are aware of the issue, looking for a fix (tflink, 17:53:55)
* (1013767) rootfs on thinp not found, startup failure (tflink,
17:54:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013767 (tflink,
17:54:49)
* Accepted Blocker, dracut, NEW (tflink, 17:54:49)
* work is progressing on this bug, nothing is needed from us at this
point (tflink, 17:55:32)
* (1009132) updates-plugin-WARNING **: failed to download: The backend
exited unexpectedly. (tflink, 17:57:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009132 (tflink,
17:57:48)
* Accepted Blocker, gnome-settings-daemon, ASSIGNED (tflink,
17:57:51)
* ACTION: pschindl to re-test #1009132 to make sure it's still an
issue (tflink, 17:58:42)
* there appears to have been no movement on this for weeks, we're not
even sure it's still an issue (tflink, 17:59:50)
* ACTION: pschindl to sync up with hughsie about this issue after
re-testing (tflink, 18:00:21)
* (1000893) Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1 GB) (tflink,
18:01:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000893 (tflink,
18:01:02)
* Accepted Blocker, LiveCD, NEW (tflink, 18:01:03)
* LINK:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-TC2/Live/x86_64/
(dan408-, 18:02:23)
* ACTION: dan408 to follow up with the gnome folks on getting the
desktop spin under size (tflink, 18:43:33)
* (1016842) devicetree.py:1293:handleVgLvs:DeviceTreeError: failed to
look up thin pool (tflink, 18:47:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1016842 (tflink,
18:47:52)
* Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:47:55)
* this is not actually a blocker, clone artifact (tflink, 18:49:31)
* (1013800) devicetree.py:1293:handleVgLvs:DeviceTreeError: failed to
look up thin pool (tflink, 18:56:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013800 (tflink,
18:56:55)
* Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:56:57)
* there is a fix available per c#7 but another issue was found during
development (tflink, 18:57:40)
* currently waiting on a fix for this new issue (tflink, 18:58:11)
* there was supposed to be more conversation with lvm folks by this
past monday, no update since then - ask for more information in bug
(tflink, 18:59:09)
* Open Floor (tflink, 18:59:42)
* next blocker review meeting will be on 2013-10-16 @ 16:00 UTC
(tflink, 19:00:57)
* if needed, another meeting will be scheduled for 2013-10-14
(tflink, 19:01:23)
Meeting ended at 19:01:38 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* pschindl to re-test #1009132 to make sure it's still an issue
* pschindl to sync up with hughsie about this issue after re-testing
* dan408 to follow up with the gnome folks on getting the desktop spin
under size
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* pschindl
* pschindl to re-test #1009132 to make sure it's still an issue
* pschindl to sync up with hughsie about this issue after re-testing
* **UNASSIGNED**
* dan408 to follow up with the gnome folks on getting the desktop spin
under size
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (285)
* cmurf (119)
* Viking-Ice (100)
* roshi (36)
* kparal (36)
* jreznik (21)
* satellit (18)
* pschindl (16)
* pwhalen (12)
* dan408- (7)
* zodbot (6)
* mkrizek (4)
* jreznik2 (4)
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