2013-01-13 Fedora QA Devel Meeting Minutes
by Tim Flink
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#fedora-blocker-review: fedoraqa-devel
======================================
After much fun with finding an open channel for the meeting, we did get
through a bunch of stuff. At the moment, no more meetings are planned
and we will schedule more as needed/appropriate.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-01-13/fedoraq...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-01-13/fedoraq...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2014-01-13/fedoraq...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 17:12:50)
* Taskotron Status (tflink, 17:19:29)
* Taskotron Phase 1 is due to be delivered 2014-03-01 (tflink,
17:20:07)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/taskotron_development_plan#Pha...
(tflink, 17:20:35)
* phase 0 is mostly complete, tickets need a bit of updating, still
(tflink, 17:21:46)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T7 (tflink,
17:21:54)
* Depcheck rewrite status (tflink, 17:24:47)
* LINK: https://bitbucket.org/fedoraqa/depcheck-mk-2
(handsome_pirate, 17:25:30)
* initial depcheck scenarios have been coded up (tflink, 17:27:38)
* LINK: https://bitbucket.org/fedoraqa/depcheck_scenarios (tflink,
17:27:44)
* current depcheck-mk-2 code is passing some of the depcheck
scenarios, rest are being worked on (tflink, 17:29:58)
* Documentation (tflink, 17:35:32)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T39 (tflink,
17:37:11)
* roshi is looking into using dexy (tflink, 17:40:01)
* LINK: http://dexy.it (tflink, 17:40:09)
* ACTION: roshi to write up comparison between dexy and sphinx, send
out to list when complete (tflink, 17:55:38)
* Taskotron Tasks/Checks (tflink, 17:56:32)
* initial tasks will be the checks from AutoQA PUATP (minus depcheck,
which is being rewritten) (tflink, 17:57:18)
* the target checks for phase 1 are: rpmlint, upgradepath, depcheck
(mk 2) (tflink, 18:01:30)
* ACTION: tflink to move repoclosure to later phase in wiki docs
(tflink, 18:02:27)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T15 (tflink,
18:05:14)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T14 (tflink,
18:05:26)
* possible checks for a future phase: repoclosure, rpmguard, abicheck
(tflink, 18:10:25)
* Taskotron Runner (tflink, 18:11:11)
* demo code is public, but incomplete (tflink, 18:12:59)
* LINK: https://bitbucket.org/fedoraqa/libtaskotron-demo (tflink,
18:13:15)
* ACTION: tflink to move repo from libtaskotron-demo to libtaskotron
(tflink, 18:17:05)
* Fedora Beaker Installation (tflink, 18:20:56)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2014-January/013...
(tflink, 18:24:42)
* Devops and Infrastructure (tflink, 18:32:08)
* LINK: http://phabricator.org/ (tflink, 18:35:31)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ (tflink,
18:35:46)
* LINK: https://qadevel-stg.cloud.fedoraproject.org/builds/ (tflink,
18:37:16)
* LINK: https://bitbucket.org/tflink/fedoraqa-ansible (tflink,
18:41:22)
* ACTION: tflink to update playbooks and docs so that folks can setup
dev systems (tflink, 18:44:22)
* Coding Policy/Strategy Going Forward (tflink, 18:47:59)
* LINK: http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
(tflink, 18:50:25)
* LINK: https://github.com/nvie/gitflow (tflink, 18:50:35)
* LINK: http://python-future.org/index.html (tflink, 18:54:07)
* Short Term Plans (tflink, 18:56:12)
* get a new demo system up and running to start testing taskotron as a
whole (tflink, 18:56:39)
* get docs and planning done (tflink, 18:56:48)
* continue with the work described earlier (checks, runner etc.)
(tflink, 18:57:07)
* Open Floor (tflink, 18:59:22)
Meeting ended at 19:04:11 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* roshi to write up comparison between dexy and sphinx, send out to list
when complete
* tflink to move repoclosure to later phase in wiki docs
* tflink to move repo from libtaskotron-demo to libtaskotron
* tflink to update playbooks and docs so that folks can setup dev
systems
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* roshi
* roshi to write up comparison between dexy and sphinx, send out to
list when complete
* tflink
* tflink to move repoclosure to later phase in wiki docs
* tflink to move repo from libtaskotron-demo to libtaskotron
* tflink to update playbooks and docs so that folks can setup dev
systems
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tflink (225)
* handsome_pirate (53)
* kparal (36)
* roshi (30)
* Viking-Ice (15)
* mkrizek (10)
* shisatum (5)
* zodbot (5)
* danofsatx (4)
* adamw (1)
* pschindl (1)
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10 years, 3 months
2014-01-13 - Fedora QA Meeting - minutes
by Adam Williamson
==================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==================================
Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:59 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-13/fedora-qa.2014...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (adamw, 16:01:09)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:09:13)
* "adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing" -
clearly, that happened:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-January/120006.html
(adamw, 16:09:36)
* EOL process handling (adamw, 16:12:48)
* there has been a bit of a debate about the EOL (end-of-life)
process, which is documented on the Wiki in a QA-ish space
(Bugzappers), but which in practice has been handled by the program
manager (adamw, 16:13:36)
* thread started at
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-December/193094.html
(adamw, 16:15:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP does list it
under Bugzappers, so we need to straighten that out whichever way it
goes. (adamw, 16:25:54)
* LINK: http://johnpoelstra.com/five-months-of-bug-triage/ is
interesting (adamw, 16:33:51)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP still shows the bug
closure to be the responsibility of 'Bugzappers' (adamw, 16:36:55)
* http://johnpoelstra.com/five-months-of-bug-triage/ implies the
history of the EOL process - it was developed as part of the
Bugzappers effort and originally done by poelcat with his Bugzappers
hat on, not his Program Manager hat (adamw, 16:37:34)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198 (jreznik,
16:39:17)
* EOL scripts are available at
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-project-schedule.git/tree/script...
(adamw, 16:40:06)
* viking-ice's suggestions that QA should own the process and perhaps
drop the closing of bugs on EOL releases is noted but not supported
by a consensus (adamw, 16:50:38)
* ACTION: adamw to summarize the discussion for a fesco ticket note on
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198 (adamw, 16:58:41)
* 10 year anniversary t-shirt (adamw, 16:59:09)
* open floor (adamw, 17:04:18)
* it's fine to propose blockers for f21 already (adamw, 17:07:55)
Meeting ended at 17:09:02 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to summarize the discussion for a fesco ticket note on
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to summarize the discussion for a fesco ticket note on
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (91)
* cmurf (51)
* jreznik (41)
* Viking-Ice (38)
* roshi (18)
* kparal (14)
* tflink (7)
* danofsatx (6)
* zodbot (4)
* jsmith (4)
* yachironi (2)
* mkrizek (1)
* pwhalen (1)
* pschindl (1)
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10 years, 3 months
Fedora Docs Meeting Summary 13Jan2013
by Pete Travis
====================================================================================================
#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
====================================================================================================
Meeting started by randomuser at 14:00:18 UTC. The full logs are
available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-13/fedora_docs....
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (randomuser, 14:00:18)
* Guide Status (randomuser, 14:07:19)
* pbokoc has updated IG for f20 and is prepping POTs now (randomuser,
14:07:53)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Docs_Project_tasks?rd=Docs_Projec...
(randomuser, 14:14:03)
* If you have or want tasks, use the tasks page (randomuser,
14:14:15)
* Capesteve is creating a Networking Guide, starting with Networking
content from Sysadmin guide (randomuser, 14:26:04)
* LINK:
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/power-management-guide.git/plain/p...
(pbokoc, 14:26:22)
* Publican4 thing (randomuser, 14:30:43)
* Docs FAD (randomuser, 14:36:40)
* nb nominates randomuser to continue as docs lead (nb, 14:48:09)
* ACTION: randomuser to send mail to list regarding 21MAR-23MAR FAD
scheduling (randomuser, 14:49:51)
* bz tickets (randomuser, 14:51:21)
Meeting ended at 15:00:17 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* randomuser to send mail to list regarding 21MAR-23MAR FAD scheduling
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* randomuser
* randomuser to send mail to list regarding 21MAR-23MAR FAD scheduling
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* randomuser (86)
* pbokoc (25)
* Sparks (19)
* yruseva (13)
* jjmcd (9)
* misc (7)
* lnovich (6)
* nb (6)
* zodbot (4)
* Capesteve (4)
* pkovar (2)
* gomix (1)
* jhradilek (1)
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10 years, 3 months
Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2014-01-13
by Dennis Gilmore
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Meeting started by dgilmore at 16:34:47 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-01-13/releng.2014-...
.
Meeting summary
- ---------------
* , roll call (dgilmore, 16:35:03)
* tickets (dgilmore, 16:41:00)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/report/10 (dgilmore,
16:41:08)
* epel7 (dgilmore, 16:43:51)
* SCM admins (dgilmore, 16:50:26)
* LINK:
http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/scmadmin.txt
(abadger1999, 16:55:16)
* ACTION: dgilmore to reach out and invite scmadmins to join releng
(dgilmore, 16:57:24)
* rawhide changes (dgilmore, 17:06:44)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/releng-dash/ (nirik,
17:10:33)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meetbot/meetbot/meetbot/teams/discussion...
(nirik, 17:12:55)
* todo list (dgilmore, 17:18:34)
* please file tickets in trac for things that need doing (dgilmore,
17:21:23)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3358
(abadger1999, 17:21:36)
* open floor (dgilmore, 17:25:54)
* places for releng work (dgilmore, 17:28:49)
* open floor again (dgilmore, 17:35:23)
* LINK: http://209.132.184.188/ (nirik, 17:44:34)
Meeting ended at 17:48:44 UTC.
Action Items
- ------------
* dgilmore to reach out and invite scmadmins to join releng
Action Items, by person
- -----------------------
* dgilmore
* dgilmore to reach out and invite scmadmins to join releng
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
- ---------------------------
* dgilmore (128)
* nirik (49)
* abadger1999 (18)
* janeznemanic (14)
* masta (11)
* tflink (4)
* sharkcz (4)
* zodbot (3)
* tyll_ (3)
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10 years, 3 months
Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2014-01-10)
by Alick Zhao
Hi all,
The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the links below. Thanks
everyone for attending the meeting.
In the meeting we talked about FUDCon bid progress, F20 Release Party,
L10N, and others. Please review the proposed ideas and actions.
The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2014-01-17). Please
come and join the discussion if you can!
* Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-01-10/fedora-zh.2014-01-1...
* Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-01-10/fedora-zh.2014-01-1...
* Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-01-10/fedora-zh.2014-01-1...
==================
#fedora-zh Meeting
==================
Meeting started by alick at 13:02:53 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2014-01-10/fedora-zh.2014-01-1...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* 报到 Who's here? (alick, 13:03:09)
* FUDCON APAC 2014 Bid (alick, 13:09:47)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014
(alick, 13:09:58)
* zsun 帮忙更新了亚洲/大洋洲的机票信息 (alick, 13:12:47)
* 申办提交截止日期为 1 月中旬 (alick, 13:13:25)
* IDEA: 我们应该本周末提交申请。 (alick, 13:13:39)
* ACTION: alick push organizers to update hotel, budget info by this
weekend (alick, 13:19:49)
* F20 Release Party (alick, 13:20:33)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F20_Shanghai
(alick, 13:20:44)
* LINK: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/6NRZNYJ (alick, 13:23:52)
* ACTION: RobberPhex write event report for relparty Shanghai (alick,
13:23:59)
* 北京站活动的调查问卷将于几个小时后关闭，请还没填写的尽快填写！
(alick, 13:25:17)
* LINK: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/P96HCPM (alick, 13:25:25)
* 线下活动 (alick, 13:28:10)
* LINK:
http://huiyi.csdn.net/module/meeting/meeting/info/680/community?project_i...
(alick, 13:28:35)
* EFD 活动时间 1 月 18 日，地点国科大中关村园区 (alick, 13:29:46)
* ACTION: dongfengweixiao recreate sticker design and share it
publicly (alick, 13:30:39)
* ACTION: tonghuix create localized sticker design (alick, 13:31:12)
* L10N 中文翻译 (alick, 13:32:05)
* TIP: IRC 中需要插话可以用 ! 号，有疑问可以用 ? 号，之后详细表达。
(alick, 13:33:13)
* IDEA: 保留 git 仓库的术语表，并继续维护，作为项目全局术语表，收录全
局性的、通用的条目。 (alick, 13:38:16)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/chinese-glossary/wiki/WikiStart
(alick, 13:40:27)
* ACTION: alick mail to list about idea on glossary updates (alick,
13:45:14)
* BUG 评选 (alick, 13:47:16)
* 自由讨论 (alick, 13:51:42)
* LINK: http://help.weibo.com/ask/q/20688669 (isyangxin1, 13:57:17)
Meeting ended at 14:04:47 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* alick push organizers to update hotel, budget info by this weekend
* RobberPhex write event report for relparty Shanghai
* dongfengweixiao recreate sticker design and share it publicly
* tonghuix create localized sticker design
* alick mail to list about idea on glossary updates
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* alick
* alick push organizers to update hotel, budget info by this weekend
* alick mail to list about idea on glossary updates
* tonghuix
* tonghuix create localized sticker design
* **UNASSIGNED**
* RobberPhex write event report for relparty Shanghai
* dongfengweixiao recreate sticker design and share it publicly
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* alick (76)
* isyangxin (14)
* zodbot (8)
* BadGirl (8)
* biergaizi (7)
* isyangxin1 (1)
* tonghuix (0)
* tiansworld (0)
* zsun_mob (0)
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2013-01-09 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Devel Meeting Minutes
by Tim Flink
=================================
#fedora-meeting-2: fedoraqa-devel
=================================
We didn't quite get through everything today, so we'll continue after
the QA meeting on Monday.
I'll be sending an announcement for that meeting shortly.
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2014-01-09/fedoraqa-dev...
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2014-01-09/fedoraqa-dev...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2014-01-09/fedoraqa-dev...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:31)
* Current Project Status (tflink, 16:06:34)
* Not much is going on with blockerbugs for the short term - we're
waiting to see how f21 and/or fedora.next shape out before working
on any new features beyond the small changes ready for review
(tflink, 16:08:54)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/project/view/1/
(tflink, 16:11:22)
* Current Status and Plans - resultsdb and testdays (tflink, 16:19:33)
* the reduced re-implementation for resultsdb is up and running at
http://resultsdb.qa.fedoraproject.org/resultsdb (tflink, 16:21:57)
* resultsdb browsing is available at:
http://resultsdb.qa.fedoraproject.org/resultsdb_frontend/ (tflink,
16:22:22)
* resultsdb API docs are at: http://docs.resultsdb.apiary.io/
(tflink, 16:22:45)
* the new resultsdb is (comparing to the old concept) quite simplified
on the data level - we stripped all the un-used tables from the old
concept, and adapted the data to what we actually used with the
autoqa reporting (tflink, 16:28:11)
* old and new resultsdb schema displayed at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AutoQA_resultsdb_schema (tflink,
16:29:18)
* Current Status - Testday App (tflink, 16:38:15)
* the testdays app is IMHO quite self-confined, and I have no
immediate goals for changing what it does (apart of bug-fixes). This
is because it's using the 'old' resultsdb, and uses TurboGears2
(tflink, 16:40:28)
* The plans for the future are to re-write it with Flask & New
Resultsdb but it is (at the moment) quite low-priority (tflink,
16:42:29)
* Current Status - Support Tools (tflink, 16:43:31)
* the main support tools that we have are phabricator (code review,
issue tracking etc.) and buildbot (in progress)/ jenkins (existing,
not quite working) for ci (tflink, 16:47:03)
* phabricator is deployed at
https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ (tflink, 16:47:22)
* LINK: http://phabricator.org/ (Viking-Ice, 16:47:46)
* ACTION: tflink to write up docs on code review with phabricator
(tflink, 16:49:01)
* buildbot for qa project CI is deployed to staging at
https://qadevel-stg.cloud.fedoraproject.org/builds/ (tflink,
16:51:59)
* there is still work to do on buildbot so that we have CI and
hopefully autogenerated and autodeployed docs for qa devel projects
(tflink, 16:56:57)
* Priorities (tflink, 17:00:36)
* AGREED: As we have a longer break between releases for now,
automation is a higher priority because it is more disruptive and
needs to be done soon (tflink, 17:16:42)
* Fedoraproject Beaker Instance Status (tflink, 17:17:26)
* we have a dev instance of beaker deployed at
https://beaker-dev.fedoraproject.org/bkr/ (tflink, 17:18:11)
* due to security concerns, it is currently locked down by IP
(tflink, 17:18:29)
* ACTION: kparal and tflink to sync up on beaker.fp.o status and come
up with some ideas on moving forward (tflink, 17:29:49)
* Taskotron status (tflink, 17:29:52)
* The hope was to have taskotron phase 0
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/taskotron_development_plan#Pha...)
done by now (tflink, 17:30:47)
* task description format was proposed and sent out to qa-devel@.
response has been mostly positive and it is ready to start moving
forward (tflink, 17:31:36)
* initial fedmsg reliability investigation indicates that it will be
reliable enough to use for automation scheduling but we should
continue to keep an eye on it (tflink, 17:32:27)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T2 (tflink,
17:32:43)
* there was a proof-of-concept system running in the fedora cloud, but
it seems to be having issues ATM (tflink, 17:37:54)
* The big remaining task for phase 0 is discussion/investigation into
notifications (tflink, 17:39:25)
* the proof-of-concept runner does work locally and does produce
output to the console, it can't report to resultsdb (yet) and needs
some refactoring (tflink, 17:40:29)
* ACTION: tflink to finish notificaitons email and send it out to
qa-devel@ (tflink, 17:42:28)
* depcheck scenarios have been drafted up and fake rpms have been
coded up for testing (tflink, 17:45:34)
* LINK: https://bitbucket.org/fedoraqa/depcheck_scenarios (tflink,
17:47:26)
* Deadlines and Milestones (tflink, 17:49:04)
* Current deadline for taskotron phase 1 is 2013-03-01 (tflink,
17:49:25)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/taskotron_development_plan#Pha...
(tflink, 17:49:47)
* Meetings (tflink, 17:55:59)
* ACTION: tflink to schedule followup meeting after monday's qa
meeting (tflink, 17:58:37)
* Open Floor (tflink, 17:58:57)
Meeting ended at 18:06:44 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* tflink to write up docs on code review with phabricator
* kparal and tflink to sync up on beaker.fp.o status and come up with
some ideas on moving forward
* tflink to finish notificaitons email and send it out to qa-devel@
* tflink to schedule followup meeting after monday's qa meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* kparal
* kparal and tflink to sync up on beaker.fp.o status and come up with
some ideas on moving forward
* tflink
* tflink to write up docs on code review with phabricator
* kparal and tflink to sync up on beaker.fp.o status and come up with
some ideas on moving forward
* tflink to finish notificaitons email and send it out to qa-devel@
* tflink to schedule followup meeting after monday's qa meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (231)
* Viking-Ice (64)
* handsome_pirate (34)
* kparal (30)
* jskladan (23)
* zodbot (7)
* mkrizek (6)
* croberts (5)
* roshi (2)
* pschindl (2)
* nirik (1)
* satellit (1)
* danofsatx (1)
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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-01-09 17:00 - 18:35 UTC)
by James Antill
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
======================
Meeting started by abadger1999 at 16:59:29 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-01-09/fpc.2014-01-...
.
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (abadger1999, 16:59:35)
* #339 software collections in Fedora (abadger1999, 17:07:57)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339 (abadger1999,
17:08:03)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AToshio%
2FSCL_Guidelines_%28draft%29&diff=366334&oldid=364381
(abadger1999, 17:09:22)
* LINK:
https://bitbucket.org/osmanov/pecl-ev/src/30589504e7cbe14445053682e42c07f...
(RemiFedora, 17:27:23)
* #369 Guidance on dealing with the bundled libev in perl-EV
(abadger1999, 17:33:04)
* Proposal to allow libev-source (with conditions -- see summary in
ticket) approved. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 17:41:56)
* Proposal to allow libev-source (with conditions -- see summary in
ticket) approved. (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 17:43:13)
* #375 Update to the Addon Packages naming guidelines for Python 3
Modules (abadger1999, 17:43:22)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/375 (abadger1999,
17:44:09)
* 374 Ada guidelines changes for Comfignat and runpaths (abadger1999,
17:59:06)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/374 (abadger1999,
17:59:11)
* Latest GNAT_add_rpath changes approved (+1:6, 0:0, -1:1)
(abadger1999, 18:08:09)
* #377 tmpfiles.d guidelines update (abadger1999, 18:09:09)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/377 (abadger1999,
18:09:56)
* Proposal to use systemd-tmpfiles --create and not have packages
specify the directories under /var/lock in rpm's %files rejected.
Vote to approve the proposal was (+1:0, 0:0, -1:5) (abadger1999,
18:30:53)
* Open Floor (abadger1999, 18:31:04)
Meeting ended at 18:36:47 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* abadger1999 (100)
* geppetto (30)
* tibbs|w (18)
* limburgher (14)
* RemiFedora (14)
* racor (10)
* Rathann (10)
* Rombobeorn (8)
* zodbot (7)
* SmootherFrOgZ (5)
* tibbsphone (1)
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10 years, 3 months
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2014-01-09)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2014-01-09)
=============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-09/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 18:00:22)
* Week(s) in review (nirik, 18:03:52)
* ticket #165: EvilBob excessive complaining about my away nick changer
(nirik, 18:06:30)
* revisit 'excessive' nick change policy (nirik, 18:09:22)
* ACTION: nirik to write up new plan for nick change policy (nirik,
18:17:31)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:17:36)
Meeting ended at 18:24:26 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* nirik to write up new plan for nick change policy
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* nirik
* nirik to write up new plan for nick change policy
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (33)
* Khaytsus (10)
* zodbot (3)
* kc8hfi (3)
* triad (1)
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18:00:22 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-01-09)
18:00:22 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 9 18:00:22 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:22 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:22 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
18:00:22 <nirik> #topic init process
18:00:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
18:00:45 <nirik> any folks around for a irc support sig meeting?
18:01:14 * Khaytsus burps
18:01:21 <kc8hfi> i'm here, watchin
18:01:50 * nirik will wait a few min for folks.
18:03:39 <nirik> ok, I guess lets go ahead
18:03:52 <nirik> #topic Week(s) in review
18:04:18 <nirik> anything to bring up from over the holidays or recently?
18:04:24 <nirik> common bugs, issues, etc?
18:04:44 <nirik> it seemed overall pretty quiet.
18:04:56 <nirik> f20 went out pretty smoothly aside from a few hiccups right at release.
18:06:30 <nirik> #topic ticket #165: EvilBob excessive complaining about my away nick changer
18:06:32 <triad> hanging around; don't know what the topic means exactly
18:06:54 <nirik> this ties into the next topic as well somewhat
18:07:45 <nirik> triad: well, this group organizes support and management of #fedora... so the previous topic was to see if anyone had issues to bring up that they had seen a lot of recently.
18:08:57 <nirik> anyhow, I spoke my thoughts in this ticket already... I think we just close it at this point peding changes in the overall policy
18:09:03 <Khaytsus> The noise _from_ nick chnages has exceeded the actual nick changes recently.
18:09:14 <nirik> Khaytsus: yeah, thats the next topic.
18:09:22 <nirik> #topic revisit 'excessive' nick change policy
18:09:31 <Khaytsus> Some common sense needs to be employed when giving warnings
18:09:34 <nirik> so, our current policy is somewhat vuage and subjective.
18:09:55 <nirik> in particular some folks feel 'once' is 'excessive and anoying
18:10:17 <nirik> I think thats crazy. :)
18:10:33 <nirik> so, I guess we should draft a change and get folks to discuss/agree with it.
18:10:57 <Khaytsus> If it's happpening frequently, sure, put an end to it. If it happens once or once a day. It's noise, disruption, and just plane looks bad to yell at the user about it.
18:11:02 <nirik> we don't really have enough of us here today to change anything now, but I would like to soon.
18:11:11 <Khaytsus> plain.. ahem
18:11:25 <kc8hfi> plane, plain!
18:11:26 <nirik> I was thinking... 5 times in an hour
18:11:34 <nirik> the plane! the plane!
18:11:43 * Khaytsus walks on his knees
18:11:54 * Khaytsus coughs
18:12:18 <nirik> 5 times -> warn/tell them to stop, another time, kick/temp ban
18:12:59 <nirik> but I can file a ticket on it.
18:13:09 * kc8hfi doesn't see anything wrong with that
18:13:59 <Khaytsus> Everyone 20 minutes seems like it's condusive to auto away nick changes, which we'd ideally avoid. But otherwise tracking frequency isn't easy I suppose.
18:15:04 <nirik> yeah.
18:16:45 <Khaytsus> I'd +1 5/hr over 1 ever, no question :)
18:17:05 <nirik> yeah,
18:17:31 <nirik> #action nirik to write up new plan for nick change policy
18:17:36 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:17:42 <nirik> any items for open floor?
18:19:44 <nirik> alright then... will close out in a minute if nothing else.
18:20:38 <Khaytsus> :)
18:24:26 <nirik> #endmeeting
10 years, 3 months
