Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-03-13 17:00 - 18:55 UTC)
by James Antill
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by abadger1999 at 17:02:26 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-13/fedora-meeti...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (abadger1999, 17:02:32)
* #339 software collections in Fedora (abadger1999, 17:05:30)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339 (abadger1999,
17:05:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1066665
(abadger1999, 17:06:00)
* #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft (abadger1999, 17:07:13)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (abadger1999,
17:07:19)
* #385 workarounds for rpm symlink <-> directory issue
(abadger1999, 17:08:32)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/385 (abadger1999,
17:08:37)
* workaround for rpm symlink <-> directory issues approved (+1:7, 0:0,
-1:0) (abadger1999, 17:16:58)
* #391 Exception for bundled libraries in icecat (abadger1999,
17:17:15)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/391 (abadger1999,
17:17:19)
* #396 Reserve static UID/GID for OpenStack ironic daemon
(abadger1999, 17:18:55)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/396 (abadger1999,
17:19:01)
* #397 Please, choose an ID number for a new group called "input"
(abadger1999, 17:22:37)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/397 (abadger1999,
17:22:41)
* #398 Tilde in version (abadger1999, 17:32:28)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/398 (abadger1999,
17:32:45)
* #399 request for bundled library exception - clustal omega
(abadger1999, 17:56:58)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/399 (abadger1999,
17:57:04)
* Clustal omega allowed to bundle squid: (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0)
(abadger1999, 18:00:04)
* 392: bundling expception for greenmail (abadger1999, 18:00:51)
* greenmail's use of james considered a fork (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
(abadger1999, 18:01:52)
* 391 Exception for bundled libraries in icecat (abadger1999,
18:02:35)
* #406 How to handle Doxygen documentation with new jQuery
no-bundling rules? (abadger1999, 18:05:28)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/406 (abadger1999,
18:05:32)
* Temporary bundling of jquery through F21 (Packages need to unbundle
for F22) is at (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) voting to continue in ticket.
(abadger1999, 18:11:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517856#c15
(abadger1999, 18:14:46)
* #404 Update python packaging guidelines (abadger1999, 18:22:21)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/404 (abadger1999,
18:22:26)
* Python updates prposal from tyll (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) Will look for
the remaining vote in ticket. (abadger1999, 18:25:33)
* #402 Promote /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d over /etc/rpm (abadger1999,
18:25:37)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/402 (abadger1999,
18:25:45)
* Update rpm macros directory (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) Will seek additional
votes in the ticket. (abadger1999, 18:29:11)
* 403 Resolve conflict between libeio and eio (enlightenment library)
(abadger1999, 18:30:29)
* Allow passenger to bundle libeio (+1:0, 0:0, -1:3). Going to say
this is unlikely to pass in ticket; we should look at renaming.
(abadger1999, 18:43:08)
Meeting ended at 18:54:10 UTC.
Action Items
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* abadger1999 (166)
* geppetto (38)
* RemiFedora (25)
* Rathann (20)
* limburgher_ (8)
* limburgher (7)
* racor (6)
* sagitter (6)
* zodbot (5)
* tibbs|w (5)
* mattdm (3)
* rsquared (2)
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10 years, 1 month
Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-03-13)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-03-13)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-13/infrastructure...
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Meeting summary
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* welcome y'all (nirik, 18:00:08)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:01:59)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:03:28)
* LINK: https://admin.stg.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ <- for anyone who
wants to look at it. (nirik, 18:05:07)
* pkgdb2 is in staging now. (nirik, 18:06:42)
* new fedocal 0.6.0 in production (nirik, 18:06:50)
* mailman3 test list is very close to being ready to test. (nirik,
18:09:27)
* bugzilla -> fedmsg is moving slowly forward. (nirik, 18:11:42)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:12:02)
* netapp still slow, still waiting on moving storage to a new filer.
(nirik, 18:12:25)
* added another compute node to our cloud to help copr capacity
(nirik, 18:12:45)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:21:49)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
(nirik, 18:21:49)
* FAD (nirik, 18:26:47)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2014-February/01...
(threebean, 18:26:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014
(nirik, 18:27:26)
* please invite and add anyone who would be good to have for the
bodhi2/taskotron fad to the wiki page. (nirik, 18:34:16)
* possibly a fas3 fad could also be done seperately. (nirik,
18:34:31)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:37:11)
* LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_Bar-B-Que (threebean,
18:39:14)
* remember github2fedmsg hack/virtual FAD next week (pingou,
18:43:01)
Meeting ended at 18:43:30 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (81)
* dgilmore (30)
* pingou (21)
* threebean (14)
* smooge (6)
* zodbot (4)
* danofsatx-work (3)
* tflink (2)
* lmacken (1)
* relrod (1)
* puiterwijk (0)
* abadger1999 (0)
* mdomsch (0)
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18:00:08 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-03-13)
18:00:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 13 18:00:08 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
18:00:08 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:08 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
18:00:08 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk
18:00:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:00:17 <smooge> here
18:00:18 <relrod> here
18:00:20 * lmacken
18:00:22 <nirik> hello everyone. Whos around for infra meeting time?
18:00:57 * pingou
18:01:59 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
18:02:13 * threebean is here
18:02:15 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with questions or comments?
18:02:37 * dgilmore is here
18:02:43 * tflink is lurking
18:02:43 <pingou> hi dgilmore
18:02:55 * danofsatx-work is present, grabbing PB&J.....
18:03:11 <nirik> FYI, I am gonna try and file some more easyfix tickets soon... get rolling on another round of ansible migrations most likely.
18:03:18 <dgilmore> hola pingou
18:03:28 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:03:39 <nirik> Any application side news or discussion?
18:03:50 <pingou> pkgdb2 made it to stg
18:03:58 <nirik> hurray.
18:04:02 <pingou> but I'm waiting still a little before announcing it :)
18:04:11 <threebean> :)
18:04:32 <nirik> pingou: so when we move that to prod, we still need it's cron jobs etc in puppet for bapp02? or does it have the same ones as pkgdb1? (I think i asked, but can't recall)
18:04:33 <pingou> and abadger1999 and I have been working on the pkgdb2 python module (and pkgdb-cli update), see results at https://github.com/fedora-infra/packagedb-cli/pull/1
18:04:40 * dgilmore needs to look at pingus questions
18:05:02 <dgilmore> I flagged the email for followup
18:05:07 <nirik> https://admin.stg.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ <- for anyone who wants to look at it.
18:05:21 <pingou> nirik: the cron needs to be adjusted a little (only from where it retrieves its data), otherwise it should work in the same way
18:05:40 <pingou> but I didn't test more than that, I hoped abadger1999 would take care of this part :]
18:05:57 <nirik> ok,we can look more. I need to figure out what to do with bapp02 as far as migration.
18:05:58 <pingou> (I just tried to check the data retrieved has the same structure)
18:06:20 <pingou> and there is a new fedocal in prod, 0.6.0
18:06:32 <nirik> cool.
18:06:42 <nirik> #info pkgdb2 is in staging now.
18:06:50 <nirik> #info new fedocal 0.6.0 in production
18:06:52 <threebean> some news: fedora-tagger got ported over to ansible, now on new nodes. fedora-packages is on the way, but I'm not quite done with it yet. rebuilding the xapian db a few times to make sure I get it right.. and its really time-consuming (many hours)
18:07:28 <nirik> threebean: oh you know there was a trac ticket on splitting tagger and packages in puppet. we can likely close that now.
18:07:39 <threebean> ooh, no. I'll look for it and handle it though.
18:08:13 <nirik> cool.
18:08:42 <nirik> I know abompard was working on mailman3 setup some more. We should have a live test list any day now. ;)
18:08:49 <threebean> \ó/
18:08:54 <pingou> \ó/
18:09:00 <nirik> and he wrote a migration script to help us when migrating lists
18:09:27 <nirik> #info mailman3 test list is very close to being ready to test.
18:10:22 <nirik> ok, anything else on application side of things?
18:10:43 <threebean> hm, maybe just what we talked briefly about earlier in fedora-apps
18:10:59 <threebean> we heard that there is motion on getting redhat bugzilla to produce messages we can use for fedmsg.
18:11:08 <threebean> so, expect more soon (next few months)
18:11:27 <nirik> yeah, early days, but something. ;)
18:11:36 * pingou can't wait!
18:11:42 <nirik> #info bugzilla -> fedmsg is moving slowly forward.
18:12:02 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
18:12:12 <nirik> lets see. On the sysadmin side...
18:12:25 <nirik> #info netapp still slow, still waiting on moving storage to a new filer.
18:12:45 <nirik> #info added another compute node to our cloud to help copr capacity
18:13:02 <nirik> we have new machines in various places that aren't racked yet...
18:13:49 <nirik> There's been some new ansible versions with some regressions... should be a new version out in the next day or so to address them.
18:14:24 <nirik> I had an idea about using rsync batch files for mirrors, but I don't know if it's enough win to bother with...
18:14:35 <nirik> dgilmore: ^ did you see my rsync batch file email on infra list?
18:15:18 <nirik> I was pointed to https://github.com/warthog9/syncdiff as a better solution down the road (but it's not ready yet at all)
18:16:18 <dgilmore> nirik: not yet
18:16:46 <nirik> it would only help mirrors that a) use it, and b) are up to date daily.
18:17:28 <nirik> anyhow, any other sysadmin type things? ansible migration is still moving along nicely.
18:17:29 <dgilmore> I would like us to trigger when mirrors pull
18:17:53 * threebean nods
18:18:04 <nirik> dgilmore: yeah, we could do that too with fedmsg or if we are doing batches, the existance of the batch file.
18:18:15 <threebean> well, hopefully, eventually.
18:18:35 <dgilmore> but yeah something needs to change
18:18:56 <smooge> I have done some statistics.. we have 390 mirrors checking the download servers. Most of them get epel and most of them aren't registered
18:19:05 <nirik> the biggest issue with our download servers is the non tier1 mirrors.
18:19:07 <nirik> yeah.
18:19:49 <smooge> I need to get a dump from mirror manager to double check as I was eyeballing the registered/non-registered part
18:20:41 <nirik> anyhow, we can work on ideas and hopefully throw netapp hardware at it soon. ;)
18:21:12 <nirik> anything else from the sysadmin side?
18:21:49 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:21:49 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
18:22:00 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to schedule or note?
18:22:19 <nirik> I'm going to be gone next thursday and friday.
18:22:26 <nirik> so, someone else will need to run the meeting next week. :)
18:22:28 <danofsatx-work> some more "easyfix" tickets for us apprentices to get spun up on would be nice....
18:22:30 <smooge> we will have an outage in 2 weeks that will be affecting ousosl servers
18:22:44 <nirik> danofsatx-work: yeah, gonna try and do some tomorrow. ;)
18:22:53 <nirik> smooge: did they pin down a date/time yet?
18:26:26 <threebean> nirik: hey, I'll run the meeting next week.
18:26:29 <nirik> anyhow, we can schedule that when it happens.
18:26:35 <nirik> threebean: cool. thanks.
18:26:47 <nirik> #topic FAD
18:26:57 <threebean> also, next week we're sprinting on a project in #fedora-apps monday-wednesday
18:26:58 <threebean> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2014-February/01...
18:27:02 <nirik> We have made a bit more planning progress on that bodhi2/taskotron fad. ;)
18:27:12 <nirik> nice. ;)
18:27:26 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014
18:28:05 <smooge> nirik just checked. no pin down yet.
18:28:26 <nirik> more releng and qa folks would be good to see about inviting... as well as any other python coders/infra folks...
18:28:39 <nirik> dgilmore / adamw ^
18:29:05 <nirik> looking like early june might be the best time?
18:29:11 <dgilmore> nirik: could be doable, might be going to Brazil in May
18:29:24 <dgilmore> nirik: only heard of it last night
18:29:31 <nirik> nice.
18:30:10 <tflink> nirik: a lot of the other qa folks are in brno, not sure how practical it would be
18:30:13 <nirik> anyhow, do mention it to anyone who could be good to contribute.
18:30:28 <nirik> tflink: yeah, not sure. Of course we can do remote/over the net work too...
18:30:39 <pingou> I have been wondering if we should make a FAS3 FAD about the same time (since the people involved in Bodhi2/Taskotron and FAS don't overlap too much), would it be an idea?
18:30:50 <dgilmore> could do a cohosted Brno/Denver thing?
18:30:54 <nirik> pingou: possibly.
18:31:37 <nirik> pingou: that would be: you, Smoother1rOgZ, abadger1999 ?
18:31:44 <pingou> could be in Paris, since I'm close, Smoother1rOgZ leaves there, puiterwijk is also close, and I guess abadger1999 would the only one to have to flight over
18:32:05 <nirik> might be worth looking into yeah. ;)
18:32:05 <dgilmore> pingou: if we are going to do a FAS3 id like to see us relook at how we issue certs/keys for koji
18:32:22 <nirik> yeah, would be nice to have that under fas...
18:32:26 <pingou> dgilmore: good idea
18:32:41 <pingou> Smoother1rOgZ: for your text notifs: dgilmore | pingou: if we are going to do a FAS3 id like to see us relook at how we issue certs/keys for koji
18:32:45 <dgilmore> existing setup is a bit clunky and a SPOF
18:33:18 <nirik> also, if we can make it so we can have reminders before expire, revoke cert on inactive accounts, etc.
18:33:34 <dgilmore> yep
18:33:43 <dgilmore> lots of area for improvement tehre
18:33:45 <dgilmore> there
18:33:52 * nirik nods.
18:34:16 <nirik> #info please invite and add anyone who would be good to have for the bodhi2/taskotron fad to the wiki page.
18:34:27 <dgilmore> maybe we could look at doing KRB now that you can have multiple realms easily
18:34:31 <nirik> #info possibly a fas3 fad could also be done seperately.
18:34:38 <dgilmore> and get rid of certs and keys
18:35:13 * nirik isn't sure that would still meet our needs. there were other issues too...
18:35:31 <dgilmore> nirik: right it may not
18:35:37 <nirik> but dunno.
18:35:41 <dgilmore> but it could be worth looking at
18:35:44 <nirik> sure.
18:35:55 <nirik> if it works for all we need, great... I just don't think it does...
18:35:55 <dgilmore> maybe in additon. i.e. you could choose which to use
18:36:12 <dgilmore> but it would be more to run
18:36:19 <dgilmore> kerberos server etc
18:36:46 <nirik> yeah. kerb server would be a SPOF... and we can't do our sponsor/admin model of groups I don't think...
18:37:06 <nirik> anyhow, it's fine to explore. Perhaps it does work for all we need now.
18:37:11 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:37:18 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor?
18:37:31 <nirik> questions, comments, favorite bbq?
18:37:36 <dgilmore> nirik: could be another option that we could move to easily also :)
18:37:59 <dgilmore> nirik: favourite bbq is all of them
18:38:07 <smooge> none of them anymore
18:38:11 <danofsatx-work> Rudy's BBQ : www.rudysbbq.com
18:38:25 * dgilmore should make some ribs :) yummy
18:38:49 * pingou knows only one kind of bbq, it involves friends and grilled meat
18:39:14 <threebean> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_Bar-B-Que
18:40:09 <nirik> nice.
18:40:16 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute.
18:40:29 <dgilmore> pingou: id want to be involved in FAS3
18:41:01 <dgilmore> but other than thatI have nothing
18:41:19 <pingou> dgilmore: sure, Smoother1rOgZ is the one leading the effort
18:41:36 <pingou> dgilmore: there is a FAS3 branch on the fas git, but nothing very advanced for the moment
18:41:52 <dgilmore> pingou: :) cool. is it on fedorahosted?
18:42:23 <pingou> dgilmore: I don't know if Smoother1rOgZ sync it there, I know he did, but I don't know how in sync they are these days
18:42:35 <pingou> hopefully from next week this will no longer be a problem
18:42:42 <dgilmore> my main are of interest is with managing koji auth
18:42:51 * dgilmore refuses to use github
18:43:01 <pingou> #info remember github2fedmsg hack/virtual FAD next week
18:43:26 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
18:43:30 <nirik> #endmeeting
10 years, 1 month
Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2014-03-13)
by Kevin Fenzi
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#fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2014-03-13)
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Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-13/irc-support-si...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 17:00:18)
Meeting ended at 17:04:12 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (6)
* zodbot (3)
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17:00:18 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-03-13)
17:00:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 13 17:00:18 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:18 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:00:18 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:00:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:00:18 <nirik> #topic init process
17:01:44 * nirik will wait around for a bit for more folks, then close out if no one else is around. :)
17:04:09 <nirik> alright then, will try again next week. ;)
17:04:12 <nirik> #endmeeting
10 years, 1 month
Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-12)
by Matthew Miller
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-03-12)
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Meeting started by mattdm at 18:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-12/fesco.2014-03-...
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Meeting summary
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* init process (mattdm, 18:00:50)
* Followups (mattdm, 18:04:58)
* #1178 Fedora 21 scheduling strategy (mattdm, 18:05:01)
* AGREED: accept provisional schedule with "no earlier than" labels;
will make firm after change submission deadline. (+8,0,0) (mattdm,
18:12:50)
* proposed schedule does cut things close with expected new upstream
kernel release (mattdm, 18:13:45)
* FESCo is fine with shipping at-the-time current kernel, which will
be then updated as normal (mattdm, 18:15:08)
* #1243 Consider release blocking status of KDE spin(?) for Fedora 21 in
.next decision-making (mattdm, 18:16:06)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2014-02-19-18.00.log.h...
<-- see again (pjones, 18:36:11)
* AGREED: defer 1-2 weeks for KDE Product Proposal. If we don't
approve that in two weeks we can revisit whether to make the KDE
spin release-blocking. (+7,0,0) (mattdm, 18:43:35)
* #1230 Requesting FESCo address Cherokee logo issue (mattdm, 18:45:13)
* #1240 taking ownership of packages fityk and sundials (mattdm,
18:46:02)
* AGREED: Packages will be reassigned (+6,0,0) (mattdm, 18:49:56)
* New Business (mattdm, 18:51:15)
* #1252 mesa 10.0.3 updates exemption for F20 (mattdm, 18:51:17)
* when filing an update exception request with fesco, please make sure
you turn off autokarma (mattdm, 19:09:00)
* ACTION: mattdm to update policy with autokarma note (mattdm,
19:14:19)
* AGREED: libxatracker soname bumps are considered an exception from
the updates or a a case where the policy is not applicable, given
the unique situation (a library with a single intended user) as long
as the user of that library is updated in sync. (+6,0,0) (mattdm,
19:16:52)
* #1244 F21 System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units (mattdm,
19:17:09)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units
(mattdm, 19:17:10)
* AGREED: cron to systemd time units change accepted (+7,0,1)
(mattdm, 19:21:24)
* #1245 F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy (mattdm,
19:22:42)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy (mattdm,
19:22:45)
* notting is +1, but strongly suggests rewriting the proposed security
levels to something that does not require a t8m/sgrubb translator
for the common sysadmin (mattdm, 19:29:02)
* AGREED: system-wide crypto policy change accepted (+6,0,1) (mattdm,
19:31:45)
* #1246 F21 System Wide Change: Access control in PCSC (mattdm,
19:31:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PcscAccessControl
(mattdm, 19:31:57)
* AGREED: access control in pcsc system-wide change accepted (+6,0,1)
(mattdm, 19:33:57)
* #1247 F21 System Wide Change: Remove python-setuptools-devel (mattdm,
19:34:09)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_Python-setuptools-devel
(mattdm, 19:34:13)
* AGREED: remove python-setuptools-devel system-wide change is
accepted (+7,0,0) (mattdm, 19:35:12)
* #1248 F21 System Wide Change: Ruby 2.1 (mattdm, 19:35:24)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_2.1 (mattdm,
19:35:28)
* this requires a mini-mass rebuild for native ruby extensions so
schedule needs to account for that. (mattdm, 19:36:45)
* AGREED: ruby 2.1 system-wide change is accepted (+7,0,0) (mattdm,
19:37:42)
* #1249 F21 System Wide Change: Lohit Odia Gurmukhi font naming
(mattdm, 19:37:50)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes//Lohit_Odia_Gurmukhi
(mattdm, 19:37:53)
* AGREED: Lohit Odia Gurmukhi font naming system-wide change is
accepted (+8,0,0) (mattdm, 19:40:36)
* #1250 F21 Self Contained Changes for week 11 (mattdm, 19:40:51)
* Allwiner sunxi ARM SoC support (mattdm, 19:40:55)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllwinnerSunxiSupport
(mattdm, 19:40:57)
* OpenCL (mattdm, 19:40:59)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpenCL (mattdm,
19:41:01)
* AGREED: OpenCL self-contained change accepted. Deferring another
week on Allwinner ARM for status update. (+5,-2,0) (mattdm,
19:51:57)
* Next week's chair (mattdm, 19:52:45)
* nirik to chair next week (mattdm, 19:54:19)
* Open Floor (mattdm, 19:54:27)
Meeting ended at 20:02:02 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* mattdm to update policy with autokarma note
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mattdm
* mattdm to update policy with autokarma note
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* mattdm (188)
* nirik (80)
* abadger1999 (59)
* mitr (58)
* pjones (50)
* jreznik (34)
* notting (33)
* jwb (29)
* drago01_ (27)
* t8m (25)
* Viking-Ice (23)
* adamw (20)
* zodbot (19)
* Kevin_Kofler (4)
* ltinkl_ (1)
* sgallagh (0)
* mmaslano (0)
* dgilmore (0)
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FAmNA Meeting minutes (11 March 2014)
by Dan Mashal
======================
#fedora-meeting: FAmNA
======================
Meeting started by dan408- at 01:15:05 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-12/famna.2014-03-...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (dan408-, 01:15:20)
* Announcements (dan408-, 01:16:41)
* Tickets (dan408-, 01:17:26)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (dan408-, 01:17:38)
* Tickets (dan408-, 01:19:37)
* ACTION: ParadoxGuitarist will handle the west coast box and try to
contact the current holders of the other 2 event boxes (dan408-,
01:28:19)
* ACTION: masta to confer with famsco to see if RH can make the
ambassador program more rewarding (dan408-, 01:36:27)
* ACTION: jsandys to discuss with rbergeron further details (dan408-,
01:47:44)
* Open Floor (dan408-, 01:50:18)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/250 ?
(threebean, 01:55:07)
Meeting ended at 02:00:32 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* ParadoxGuitarist will handle the west coast box and try to contact the
current holders of the other 2 event boxes
* masta to confer with famsco to see if RH can make the ambassador
program more rewarding
* jsandys to discuss with rbergeron further details
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jsandys
* jsandys to discuss with rbergeron further details
* masta
* masta to confer with famsco to see if RH can make the ambassador
program more rewarding
* ParadoxGuitarist
* ParadoxGuitarist will handle the west coast box and try to contact
the current holders of the other 2 event boxes
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* dan408- (108)
* masta (35)
* ParadoxGuitarist (28)
* jsandys (19)
* wrnash1 (13)
* zodbot (8)
* threebean (4)
* adamw (2)
* kk4ewt (0)
* nb (0)
* Southern_Gentlem (0)
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Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-03-11)
by Marcela Mašláňová
============================================
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-03-11)
============================================
Meeting started by mmaslano at 16:04:33 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-11/env-and-stacks...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* init process (mmaslano, 16:04:57)
* April 7th is deadline for Change proposals, no new big changes which
means interaction of more projects/people or more releng work can be
added (mmaslano, 16:14:42)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1221#comment:28 <=
that's what I was remembering... not sure it's the right ticket.
(abadger1999, 16:15:09)
* AGREED: Playground repo: mirroring - no mirroring at start accepted
(+5,-0,0) (mmaslano, 16:21:07)
* Playground repo: mirroring
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2014-March/00028...
(mmaslano, 16:21:22)
* AGREED: Playground repo: self-hosting - Playground must be
selfhosted (passed, no-one objected on mailing list) (mmaslano,
16:22:32)
* Playground repo: self-hosting
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2014-March/00028...
(mmaslano, 16:22:53)
* deltarpms for the Playground repo (tjanez, 16:23:48)
* AGREED: deltarpms are Optional but nice to have. (mmaslano,
16:33:15)
* signing packages for Playground (mmaslano, 16:34:00)
* implemenation of signing will take probably 4 monts (mmaslano,
16:34:14)
* ACTION: mmaslano will investigate with msuchy if it can be signed
outside of COPR, why it takes 4 months, how to sign only some
packages, .... (mmaslano, 16:40:21)
* will fedup support upgrades with packages there? (mmaslano, 16:41:28)
* AGREED: encourage packagers (via documentation) to take care that
their packages properly survive Fedora upgrades (mmaslano,
17:10:01)
* we'll also implement a way to automatically notify the package
owners about broken dependencies, etc. (tjanez, 17:11:40)
* multilib support in Playground (mmaslano, 17:12:31)
* AGREED: multilib is nice to have, just document it (mmaslano,
17:26:12)
Meeting ended at 17:33:48 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* mmaslano will investigate with msuchy if it can be signed outside of
COPR, why it takes 4 months, how to sign only some packages, ....
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mmaslano
* mmaslano will investigate with msuchy if it can be signed outside of
COPR, why it takes 4 months, how to sign only some packages, ....
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* mmaslano (71)
* abadger1999 (68)
* tjanez (65)
* hhorak (25)
* zodbot (5)
* pkovar1 (4)
* drieden (4)
* tflink (3)
* pingou (1)
* bkabrda (0)
* samkottler (0)
* juhp (0)
* pkovar (0)
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Fedora Server WG Meeting Minutes (2014-03-11)
by Stephen Gallagher
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#fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2014-03-11)
===================================================================
Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:02:08 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-11/fedora-meeti...
.
Meeting summary
- ---------------
* roll call (sgallagh, 15:02:18)
* Firewall (sgallagh, 15:07:05)
* AGREED: If the user hasn't specified firewall status explicitly,
interactive role deployment will inform the user whether the
service's ports have been opened by default" to either the 2nd or
the 3rd paragraph of the Firewall section of the tech spec. It must
be possible to query the API for the required state of the firewall
to support the role, which can then be compared to the active
firewalld state. (sgallagh, 15:23:59)
* ACTION: sgallagh to update the Technical Specification with this
phrasing (sgallagh, 15:24:12)
* Implementation of Roles (sgallagh, 15:25:00)
* For Fedora 21, we address upgrade compatibility through policy
rather than enforcement. Any core piece of a Role is expected to
coordinate with that Role before upgrading (the responsibility is on
the package maintainer, not the Role owner). (sgallagh, 16:04:21)
Meeting ended at 17:00:25 UTC.
Action Items
- ------------
* sgallagh to update the Technical Specification with this phrasing
Action Items, by person
- -----------------------
* sgallagh
* sgallagh to update the Technical Specification with this phrasing
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
- ---------------------------
* sgallagh (150)
* mizmo (90)
* simo (78)
* adamw (77)
* mitr (54)
* nirik (32)
* zodbot (8)
* tuanta (7)
* Evolution (0)
* davidstrauss (0)
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2014-03-10 - Fedora QA Meeting - minutes
by Adam Williamson
==================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==================================
Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-10/fedora-qa.2014...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (adamw, 15:00:14)
* previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:05:06)
* roshi is a charlatan (adamw, 15:05:41)
* "adamw and cmurf and anyone else interested to keep watching and
driving the product WG discussions on filesystems" - that one was
just a sort of watching brief, more solid info coming up (adamw,
15:06:07)
* "adamw to ask fesco to consider KDE release blocking status" - I've
done that, https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1243 - FESCo punted
for now but will discuss it when appropriate (adamw, 15:07:02)
* "adamw to propose disabling of autokarma on depcheck fail (to FESCo)
as a stopgap till more reliable depcheck with taskotron" - I did
that, https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1242 , and the proposal
was accepted, just need lmacken and tflink to do it now :) (adamw,
15:07:54)
* KDE SIG will discuss a KDE Product at meeting tomorrow (adamw,
15:08:13)
* kparal notes that the autokarma change may annoy some maintainers,
we will keep an eye on feedback and taskotron readiness and stand
ready to try and make adjustments if it seems necessary (adamw,
15:10:58)
* Fedora.next plans (adamw, 15:13:31)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification
(adamw, 15:13:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Technical_Specification
(adamw, 15:14:00)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Plasma_Product/Technical_Specification
(Martix, 15:14:49)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178#comment:31
(jreznik, 15:17:57)
* ACTION: adamw to come up with another new draft storage test matrix
based on new-new storage UI (no filesystem dropdown) and product
filesystem choices (adamw, 15:29:51)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:50:27)
* jreznik points out a draft F21 schedule he'd like comments on:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178#comment:31 (adamw,
15:51:04)
* adamw, cmurf and handsome_pirate thought the schedule looked good -
plenty of time before Alpha, but still a decent Alpha->Beta gap
(adamw, 15:57:23)
Meeting ended at 16:00:12 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to come up with another new draft storage test matrix based on
new-new storage UI (no filesystem dropdown) and product filesystem
choices
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to come up with another new draft storage test matrix based on
new-new storage UI (no filesystem dropdown) and product filesystem
choices
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (94)
* cmurf (27)
* kparal (16)
* jreznik (15)
* tflink (10)
* Martix (10)
* roshi (10)
* zodbot (4)
* satellit (3)
* danofsatx-work (2)
* handsome_pirate (2)
* sgallagh (1)
* brunowolff (1)
* mkrizek (1)
* pwhalen (1)
* pschindl (1)
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