adamwill's meeting titled "Fedora QA meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-07-20/fedora-qa.2015...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (adamw, 15:01:07)
* Fedora 23 status (adamw, 15:08:32)
* Alpha TC1 compose is currently blocked by
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208092 (adamw,
15:10:26)
* ACTION: adamw to notify list about SELinux bug in 07-17 and update
the 07-17 nightly instructions (adamw, 15:14:32)
* known issues with intel graphics in current kernels, upstream is
working on it (adamw, 15:24:56)
* Test Days (adamw, 15:26:30)
* Change owners have been contacted and we expect tickets for Test
Days shortly (adamw, 15:31:35)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:39:45)
* tflink is moving infra around, blockerbugs URLs may change (but
redirects will be in place) (adamw, 15:41:37)
Meeting ended at 15:47:20 UTC.
Action Items
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* adamw to notify list about SELinux bug in 07-17 and update the 07-17
nightly instructions
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to notify list about SELinux bug in 07-17 and update the 07-17
nightly instructions
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* (none)
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* tflink (9)
* brunowolff (9)
* roshi (9)
* garretraziel (7)
* nirik (6)
* randomuser` (6)
* satellit (6)
* satellit_e (6)
* danofsatx (5)
* zodbot (4)
* kparal (3)
* lbrabec (1)
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8 years, 9 months
randomuser`'s meeting titled "Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings" ended in #fedora-meeting
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#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by randomuser` at 14:01:06 UTC. The full logs are
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (randomuser`, 14:01:06)
* New Writers (randomuser`, 14:11:40)
* Release Notes Beats (randomuser`, 14:14:45)
* ACTION: randomuser to clear beats for F23 (randomuser`, 14:15:12)
* ACTION: randomuser to hand out badges for F22 beat writing, already
(randomuser`, 14:15:36)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/ChangeSet
(randomuser`, 14:16:47)
* F23 Alpha Freeze is in just over a week (randomuser`, 14:17:11)
* ACTION: zoglesby to send Change summary to list, ask for Docs
Contacts (randomuser`, 14:17:49)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-docs-tasks.html
(randomuser`, 14:18:47)
* LINK: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-docs.ics
(zoglesby, 14:19:49)
* ACTION: randomuser to make list of beat writers while assigning
badges and ask those people to keep beat writing (randomuser`,
14:22:00)
* ACTION: randomuser to mail devel (devel-announce) after clearing
beats (randomuser`, 14:23:48)
* Publishing (randomuser`, 14:26:47)
* Guide Status (randomuser`, 14:28:50)
* smccann is fedora-izing the VADG (randomuser`, 14:34:07)
* VDAG -Virtualization Deployment and Administration Guide (lnovich,
14:35:09)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virt_Deploy_Admin_Planning for
VDAG planning (smccann, 14:37:02)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser`, 14:39:27)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser`, 14:39:45)
* Open floor discussion (randomuser`, 14:43:54)
* - office hours at 9AM EST Wed (lnovich, 14:53:22)
* - same on thurs (lnovich, 14:53:38)
* - Wed office hours will discuss the VDAG (lnovich, 14:54:02)
Meeting ended at 14:57:05 UTC.
Action Items
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* randomuser to clear beats for F23
* randomuser to hand out badges for F22 beat writing, already
* zoglesby to send Change summary to list, ask for Docs Contacts
* randomuser to make list of beat writers while assigning badges and ask
those people to keep beat writing
* randomuser to mail devel (devel-announce) after clearing beats
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* zoglesby
* zoglesby to send Change summary to list, ask for Docs Contacts
* **UNASSIGNED**
* randomuser to clear beats for F23
* randomuser to hand out badges for F22 beat writing, already
* randomuser to make list of beat writers while assigning badges and
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* randomuser to mail devel (devel-announce) after clearing beats
People Present (lines said)
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* randomuser` (77)
* grundblom (22)
* lnovich (17)
* bexelbie (17)
* zoglesby (15)
* smccann (10)
* zodbot (6)
* Capesteve (5)
* jjmcd (2)
* pbokoc (1)
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8 years, 9 months
tflink's meeting ended in #fedora-meeting-1
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#fedora-meeting-1 Meeting
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Meeting started by tflink at 14:03:17 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (tflink, 14:03:17)
* kparal's status report (kparal, 14:04:49)
* mkrizek status update (mkrizek, 14:04:49)
* made final touches to latest stable build in the koji directive and
pushed it (mkrizek, 14:05:06)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T491 (mkrizek,
14:05:09)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D417 (mkrizek,
14:05:12)
* dev/stg machine artifacts deployment (mkrizek, 14:05:14)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T505 (mkrizek,
14:05:17)
* various infra fixes (mkrizek, 14:05:19)
* code reviews (mkrizek, 14:05:22)
* preparing for Flock (mkrizek, 14:05:24)
* set up a blog (mkrizek.wordpress.com) (mkrizek, 14:05:27)
* kparal's status report (kparal, 14:08:20)
* simplified development environment setup (kparal, 14:08:25)
* many reviews (kparal, 14:08:26)
* fixed artifact path url in resultsdb_directive (kparal, 14:08:26)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D443 (kparal,
14:08:26)
* other small fixes (artifact path url, libsolv deps, etc) (kparal,
14:08:26)
* jskladan status updates (jskladan, 14:11:37)
* resultsdb now auto-creates unknown testcases for create_result()
(jskladan, 14:11:37)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D431 (jskladan,
14:11:37)
* posted testday app's playbook up for a review (jskladan, 14:11:37)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D441 (jskladan,
14:11:37)
* changed the ugly font in Phab to something readable (jskladan,
14:11:37)
* reviews, Flock preparations, ... (jskladan, 14:11:38)
* jsedlak status update (garretraziel, 14:19:35)
* OpenQA: learning about Docker version tags (it's a mess and it
behaves weirdly) (garretraziel, 14:19:35)
* LINK:
https://medium.com/@mccode/the-misunderstood-docker-tag-latest-af3babfd6375
(garretraziel, 14:19:35)
* OpenQA tools: updated README and installguide (garretraziel,
14:19:35)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D427
(garretraziel, 14:19:36)
* OpenQA tools: added code for creating prebuild Fedora Workstation
disk image (garretraziel, 14:19:36)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D446
(garretraziel, 14:19:36)
* OpenQA tests: moved logging-in logic into parent class to be able to
use it from different places (garretraziel, 14:19:37)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D440
(garretraziel, 14:19:37)
* OpenQA tests: working on using fedfind to provide url for
downloading packages for fedup (garretraziel, 14:19:38)
* OpenQA tests: created fedup desktop (workstation) tests
(garretraziel, 14:19:38)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D451
(garretraziel, 14:19:38)
* "tflink - status report" (tflink, 14:29:31)
* attempting to improve packages for phabricator, need to get stuff
redeployed first (tflink, 14:29:31)
* preparing to migrate qadevel from cloud to actual infra machine
(tflink, 14:29:31)
* fixed strange issue on taskotron.stg after database outage (tflink,
14:29:31)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T527 (tflink,
14:29:31)
* helped a little with artifacts deployment (tflink, 14:29:31)
* lbrabec status report (lbrabec, 14:33:45)
* exitcode directive (lbrabec, 14:33:50)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T450 (lbrabec,
14:33:50)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D447 (lbrabec,
14:33:51)
* search fix and improvement in resultsdb frontend (lbrabec,
14:33:51)
* finished and pushed package installation from formulae (lbrabec,
14:33:53)
* finished and pushed new argument `--local` (lbrabec, 14:33:55)
* playing with pytest wrapper for arcanist (lbrabec, 14:33:57)
* LINK: https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T364 (lbrabec,
14:33:59)
* will continue to work on taskotron (lbrabec, 14:34:01)
* qadevel migration plans (tflink, 14:40:35)
* open floor (tflink, 14:50:41)
Meeting ended at 14:53:57 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (79)
* kparal (54)
* garretraziel (25)
* jskladan (18)
* lbrabec (17)
* mkrizek (15)
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* roshi (1)
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8 years, 9 months
Workstation WG Recap 2015-Jul-20
by Paul W. Frields
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-07-20/workstation.20...
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation WG
======================================
Meeting started by stickster at 13:00:45 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-07-20/workstation.20...
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call! (stickster, 13:01:27)
* Thanks and gratitude (stickster, 13:05:30)
* ACTION: stickster follow up on mailing list about switching meeting
times, since this is the second time in three meetings we've had
trouble reaching quorum (stickster, 13:09:22)
* Flock presence (stickster, 13:10:14)
* stickster, cschaller, and mclasen should be present at Flock (and
jwb) (stickster, 13:10:37)
* LINK: http://flocktofedora.org (stickster, 13:11:15)
* otaylor also attending (stickster, 13:11:37)
* ryanlerch also attending, thanks to some last-minute budget
wrangling (stickster, 13:14:54)
* BZ 1241310 -- password strength (stickster, 13:16:51)
* Some libpwquality changes are being made to allow weaker passwords,
but it's not yet clear this solves Workstation case. (stickster,
13:20:28)
* AGREED: on initial password plan (see log for full details)
(stickster, 13:59:21)
* ACTION: mcatanzaro Pull the plan to the list and kickstart
discussion on item 4 for sshd strength (stickster, 14:00:12)
* F23 Alpha freeze coming! (stickster, 14:00:28)
Meeting ended at 14:00:51 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* stickster follow up on mailing list about switching meeting times,
since this is the second time in three meetings we've had trouble
reaching quorum
* mcatanzaro Pull the plan to the list and kickstart discussion on item
4 for sshd strength
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mcatanzaro
* mcatanzaro Pull the plan to the list and kickstart discussion on
item 4 for sshd strength
* stickster
* stickster follow up on mailing list about switching meeting times,
since this is the second time in three meetings we've had trouble
reaching quorum
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* stickster (98)
* mcatanzaro (41)
* Corey84 (30)
* mclasen (22)
* otaylor (15)
* jwb (10)
* randomuser` (9)
* zodbot (7)
* juhp_ (6)
* corey84__ (1)
* rtcm (1)
* cmurf (1)
* rdieter_work (0)
* juhp (0)
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8 years, 9 months
pfrields's meeting titled "Fedora Workstation WG" ended in #fedora-meeting
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Workstation WG
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Meeting started by stickster at 13:00:45 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-07-20/workstation.20...
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call! (stickster, 13:01:27)
* Thanks and gratitude (stickster, 13:05:30)
* ACTION: stickster follow up on mailing list about switching meeting
times, since this is the second time in three meetings we've had
trouble reaching quorum (stickster, 13:09:22)
* Flock presence (stickster, 13:10:14)
* stickster, cschaller, and mclasen should be present at Flock (and
jwb) (stickster, 13:10:37)
* LINK: http://flocktofedora.org (stickster, 13:11:15)
* otaylor also attending (stickster, 13:11:37)
* ryanlerch also attending, thanks to some last-minute budget
wrangling (stickster, 13:14:54)
* BZ 1241310 -- password strength (stickster, 13:16:51)
* Some libpwquality changes are being made to allow weaker passwords,
but it's not yet clear this solves Workstation case. (stickster,
13:20:28)
* AGREED: on initial password plan (see log for full details)
(stickster, 13:59:21)
* ACTION: mcatanzaro Pull the plan to the list and kickstart
discussion on item 4 for sshd strength (stickster, 14:00:12)
* F23 Alpha freeze coming! (stickster, 14:00:28)
Meeting ended at 14:00:51 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* stickster follow up on mailing list about switching meeting times,
since this is the second time in three meetings we've had trouble
reaching quorum
* mcatanzaro Pull the plan to the list and kickstart discussion on item
4 for sshd strength
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mcatanzaro
* mcatanzaro Pull the plan to the list and kickstart discussion on
item 4 for sshd strength
* stickster
* stickster follow up on mailing list about switching meeting times,
since this is the second time in three meetings we've had trouble
reaching quorum
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* stickster (98)
* mcatanzaro (41)
* Corey84 (30)
* mclasen (22)
* otaylor (15)
* jwb (10)
* randomuser` (9)
* zodbot (7)
* juhp_ (6)
* corey84__ (1)
* rtcm (1)
* cmurf (1)
* rdieter_work (0)
* juhp (0)
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8 years, 9 months
tuanta's meeting titled "APAC 2015-07-18" ended in #fedora-meeting
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#fedora-meeting: APAC 2015-07-18
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Meeting started by tuanta at 04:00:39 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (tuanta, 04:00:48)
* Agenda Item: Tickets (tuanta, 04:03:53)
* Agenda Item: FUDCon Pune Financial quick update (tuanta, 04:05:54)
* FUDCon Pune Financial quick update (tuanta, 04:06:35)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2014-April/001525.html
(siddhesh, 04:14:30)
* ruth's budget email from last year does not put the FUDCon as a
different cost head (kushal, 04:15:01)
* Ticket #194 (tuanta, 04:20:58)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/194 (tuanta,
04:21:22)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F22_Pune is what
I am working on for Pune. (kushal, 04:28:19)
* AGREED: Approved ticket #194. (tuanta, 04:32:36)
* Ticket #205 (tuanta, 04:33:12)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/205 (tuanta,
04:33:18)
* AGREED: Approved ticket #205 (tuanta, 04:37:51)
* ACTION: tuanta to update tickets #194, #205 (tuanta, 04:38:14)
* Ticket #204 (tuanta, 04:38:38)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/204 (tuanta,
04:38:54)
* AGREED: Approved ticket #204 (tuanta, 04:47:49)
* ACTION: tuanta to make changes on APAC trac (tuanta, 04:48:15)
* Ticket #197 (tuanta, 04:49:17)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/197 (tuanta,
04:49:25)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2016
(tuanta, 04:52:35)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/196 (tuanta,
05:09:31)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/199 (tuanta,
05:09:40)
* AGREED: Approved to support tickets #196, #197, #199; the amount is
$350 for each of thee, $500 for each of two (if one refuse partially
subsidy) and $1,000 for one (if two refuse) (tuanta, 05:29:34)
* ACTION: tuanta to change ticket #196, #197, #199 for this approval
(tuanta, 05:32:08)
* ACTION: tuanta and siddhesh to update the budget wiki to the current
situation (tuanta, 05:37:26)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/202 (hanthana,
05:54:33)
* Ticket #202 (hanthana, 05:55:04)
* AGREED: Approved ticket #202 (hanthana, 06:04:59)
* Ticket #203 (hanthana, 06:07:12)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/203 (hanthana,
06:07:53)
Meeting ended at 06:28:04 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* tuanta to update tickets #194, #205
* tuanta to make changes on APAC trac
* tuanta to change ticket #196, #197, #199 for this approval
* tuanta and siddhesh to update the budget wiki to the current situation
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* siddhesh
* tuanta and siddhesh to update the budget wiki to the current
situation
* tuanta
* tuanta to update tickets #194, #205
* tuanta to make changes on APAC trac
* tuanta to change ticket #196, #197, #199 for this approval
* tuanta and siddhesh to update the budget wiki to the current
situation
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tuanta (152)
* siddhesh (104)
* gnokii (83)
* hanthana (58)
* adimania (38)
* pravins (36)
* somvannda (30)
* kushal (20)
* zodbot (18)
* rtnpro (15)
* ksopheaktra (8)
* pjp (8)
* nangthang (5)
* hieuhoang (3)
* leap (3)
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8 years, 9 months
EPEL Steering Committee 2015-07-17
by Stephen John Smoogen
17:00:07 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
17:00:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jul 17 17:00:07 2015 UTC. The
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17:00:11 <smooge> #meetingname epel
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17:00:22 <nirik> morning
17:00:22 <smooge> #topic Meat and Greets
17:00:46 <smooge> Hello I am Stephen Smoogen and I am your majordomo
for today. Please say hi and hello.
17:00:54 <smooge> We will do a roll call to see if we have quorum
17:00:54 * nirik needs coffee... back in a min. ;)
17:01:04 <nirik> hello and hi smooge. :)
17:01:07 <Evolution> hi and hello
17:01:22 <smooge> bstinson, are you available?
17:01:29 <smooge> dgilmore, are you available?
17:01:36 <smooge> avij, are you available?
17:01:53 <bstinson> o/
17:01:56 <smooge> My apologies for not sending out an email about the
meeting this week.
17:02:31 <smooge> We have minimal quorum. I don't have an agenda so we
will just go over a couple of points.
17:02:36 <smooge> #topic Minimal agenda
17:02:59 <smooge> #info Other architectures for EPEL
17:03:32 <smooge> #info Python34 is in EPEL7
17:04:08 <smooge> #info Open Floo(d)r
17:04:32 <smooge> #topic Other Architectures for EPEL
17:04:52 * nirik is back from the coffee machine
17:04:58 <smooge> #info s390 request for builds in EPEL.
17:05:08 <smooge> #info i386 via CentOS i386
17:05:27 <smooge> #info ppc64le/arm64
17:06:07 <smooge> The s390 item I believe will have to be discussed
better at FLOCK?
17:06:51 <smooge> Evolution, bstinson what is the status of CentOS
i386 for EL-7?
17:07:15 <Evolution> smooge: it's built and in beta for feedback. it
will likely be gold soon
17:07:30 <Evolution> barring a blocker bug, it'll be gold shortly
17:09:07 <smooge> ok cool
17:09:26 <smooge> I guess at that point we would look at how we are
going to import and build against it.
17:10:24 <Evolution> from reading the notes of the last minutes, that
might be tricky
17:12:18 * nirik nods
17:12:30 <Evolution> smooge: there was something about koji-shadow not
being an option iirc
17:12:35 <Evolution> or am I mis-remembering.
17:12:55 <Evolution> some of this can hopefully be addressed at flock
when folks (lookin at you bstinson!) are face to face.
17:13:27 <smooge> I don't know myself. That is definately a
releng/koji developers in a cage match thing
17:13:46 <smooge> I just sit outside and wait for the match to be over
17:13:48 <nirik> I don't think koji-shadow will work, but I don't
recall the specific reason why. ;)
17:14:24 <Evolution> aarch64 will also be up on that list.
17:14:32 <Evolution> we'll be coming out of beta with it quite soon
17:15:13 <smooge> nirik, is there a non-koji shadow?
17:15:17 <Evolution> the testing is done, and essentially it's just
the signing/distribution mechanics to be fiddled with.
17:15:26 <nirik> yeah, and there's at least some interest in s390 and ppc64le
17:15:29 <smooge> I mean koji-public
17:15:54 <smooge> cool
17:16:00 <nirik> smooge: not sure what you mean... we could run
seperate kojis for things, but then the trick is keeping them all in
sync
17:16:29 <nirik> oh yeah, thats it. koji-shadow doesn't work with
external repos (which we use in epel)
17:16:36 <smooge> nirik, so I thought koji-shadow was basically the
mechanism to allow for the RHEL bits to be seen by koji but not the
rest of the world
17:16:41 <nirik> no
17:16:45 <smooge> ah ok
17:16:51 <smooge> so never mind what I was saying
17:16:53 <nirik> koji-shadow is a set of scripts secondary arches run.
17:17:05 <nirik> it watches the primary builds and tries to do them the same way
17:17:20 <nirik> same versions/buildroot, etc
17:17:40 <nirik> but with epel, all the rhel stuff is in external
repos, so it could not tell when a rhel thing changed.
17:17:59 <nirik> we could switch x86_64/ppc64 over to just using centos... ;)
17:18:12 <nirik> but some people might not like that
17:18:41 <bstinson> another win would be some sort of thing that
watches external repos (we need to work on something like that on the
CentOS side anyways)
17:18:53 <bstinson> but that's not a short-term solution
17:18:57 <nirik> yeah
17:20:27 <nirik> so, put on those thinking caps and perhaps we will
come up with some plan. ;)
17:22:12 <smooge> nirik, so what makes a repository external versus
internal to a koji-shadow
17:22:17 <Evolution> see, this is why I like bstinson....
17:22:26 <Evolution> he just keeps signing himself up for more work
17:22:35 <bstinson> heh, you have no idea...
17:22:40 <nirik> smooge: external repos are listed in koji as just
https://whateverhost/repo
17:22:41 <bstinson> some day i'll learn
17:22:45 <smooge> Evolution, I actually heard him say "Evolution
can... " when he said that
17:22:51 <nirik> internal repos are ones it builds itself out of local packages.
17:23:34 <smooge> ah ok so the koji would need to be able to build all
of "CentOS i386 7" for it to work.. or am I jumping to the wrong
conclusion too
17:23:44 <nirik> so if foo was rebuilt for say epel7, koji knows it
needs to make a new repo with that package in it... but with external
it just loads those when doing builds, it has no way to know or care
whats in them
17:25:22 <nirik> well, the issue with arches is that koji doesn't know
how to get different stuff from different places.
17:25:42 <Evolution> in the case of x86, there would be collisions as well.
17:25:56 <nirik> if 'foo' is in rhel x86_64, and centos i386 and
wherever s390, it can't get the right foo from all of those, it has to
have 1 place it knows foo
17:26:37 <nirik> koji wasn't really setup with this case in mind. ;)
17:27:23 <Evolution> the 'rebuild' usecase is a bit of a snowflake for
a variety of reasons...
17:27:59 <nirik> yeah
17:28:19 <smooge> I say we just move epel to coprs and be done with it.
17:28:41 <Evolution> smooge: you can't joke about that stuff. someone
will hear it and then it'll happen
17:28:44 <Evolution> :-P
17:28:55 * smooge should stop drinking Bourbon and Mylanta before noon
17:29:17 <Evolution> hey, that's my 'building golang for aarch64' cocktail
17:29:48 <smooge> I call it Creme De Minthhhh
17:30:03 <smooge> so anything more on this until Flock?
17:30:32 <Evolution> I don't think so. most all the secondary arch
bits have some sticking point that require releng folks to curse.
17:30:38 <smooge> #topic Python34 in EL7
17:31:17 <smooge> OK this looks like it went golden and now it is a
matter of doing the many packages just so we can start the dance again
with python35 at Xmas
17:31:19 <nirik> I think the main thing to talk about here is the
packages in rhel already that are python2 only
17:31:42 <smooge> sounds good
17:31:45 <smooge> or bad...
17:32:07 <nirik> I am leaning toward suggesting new packages... python3-foo
17:32:18 <nirik> will require reviews, but will just be a lot less messy
17:32:31 <bstinson> do we need the FPC to comment on that?
17:32:34 <nirik> and then versions won't be tied to rhel versions
17:33:00 <nirik> I don't think so... it's just a epel
preference/policy. I guess it might not hurt tho
17:33:04 <Evolution> nirik: I like/hate that approach.
17:33:30 <Evolution> it makes this simpler in a number of ways, but
the review process will be fun
17:33:32 <nirik> well, if we don't do that, it means we will have to
keep packages lower than or the same as their rhel versions
17:33:49 <Evolution> no, I totally agree it's the way to go.
17:33:58 <Evolution> but the reviews...
17:34:22 <nirik> well, we don't need to do every package out there,
only ones people are actually interested in and willing to maintain
17:34:56 <bstinson> MUST: be a new package named python3-<foo>,
SHOULD: rebase from fedora's master to make review easier
17:35:19 * nirik nods.
17:35:47 <smooge> speaking of reviews.. do we have a backlog of ones?
How do we tell
17:36:38 <nirik> http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/EPEL.html
17:39:23 * nirik closes some of those
17:39:40 <Evolution> I need dgilmore to finish up the review of mine.
17:39:53 <Evolution> or transfer it to someone else. unsure how that
works exactly
17:40:23 <smooge> I am not sure myself
17:41:03 <smooge> that was what I was wondering was how many
'outstanding' reviews might be there that are in a mixed state..
started but not finished as I would like to figure out how to clean
that house also.
17:41:40 <nirik> not easy to tell. ;)
17:42:21 <nirik> some/many are in the general review queue.
17:42:45 <smooge> ah ok.. I guess it is a time to dive in and do some things
17:42:51 <smooge> in my copious spare time.
17:42:57 <bstinson>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_stalled_package_reviews
17:42:58 <smooge> I will do it while you guys are at flock
17:43:30 <bstinson> looks like we need a comment in the bug for a
weeks time before it can be reassigned
17:44:45 <smooge> so back to the topic at hand. I think there is
general agreement that packages for python3 will need a 'new' package
and review or EPEL
17:46:00 <bstinson> +1 (with the expectation that i'll have to take a
few reviews)
17:46:04 <nirik> +1
17:47:03 <Evolution> +1
17:47:04 <smooge> Evolution?
17:48:14 <smooge> sorry
17:48:17 <smooge> irc puked on me
17:48:25 <Evolution> no worries. I delayed a bit.
17:48:30 <smooge> #agreed python3 packages will need new package
python3-foo which will require a review but if based off existing
fedora package should be 'faster' to review than from scratch.
17:48:50 <smooge> #topic Open Flood
17:49:19 <smooge> OK 12 minutes to the top of the hour. Any open
items, complaints, witch burnings, or drinking tips?
17:50:35 <smooge> .... puts away his lit torch and kerosene
17:50:50 <smooge> .... closing in 2 minutes
17:50:59 <nirik> toss the drinks on the complaining witches and burn them?
17:52:03 <smooge> #endmeeting
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* Meat and Greets (smooge, 17:00:22)
* Minimal agenda (smooge, 17:02:36)
* Other architectures for EPEL (smooge, 17:02:59)
* Python34 is in EPEL7 (smooge, 17:03:32)
* Open Floo(d)r (smooge, 17:04:08)
* Other Architectures for EPEL (smooge, 17:04:32)
* s390 request for builds in EPEL. (smooge, 17:04:58)
* i386 via CentOS i386 (smooge, 17:05:08)
* ppc64le/arm64 (smooge, 17:05:27)
* Python34 in EL7 (smooge, 17:30:38)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/EPEL.html
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* LINK:
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* AGREED: python3 packages will need new package python3-foo which
will require a review but if based off existing fedora package
should be 'faster' to review than from scratch. (smooge, 17:48:30)
* Open Flood (smooge, 17:48:50)
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* topic: Offline events (zsun, 13:09:58)
* Offline Events 线下活动 (zsun, 13:15:35)
* still no reply for F22 DVDs from Fedora APAC. (zsun, 13:16:28)
* Call for Fedora 22 Release Parties (zsun, 13:18:47)
* No updates for Packaging FAD (zsun, 13:20:29)
* Fedora 23 tasks (zsun, 13:25:23)
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* uboot dir changed in Fedora 23, as well as the fedora-arm-installer
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