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Meeting started by adamw at 17:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 17:00:36)
* Introduction (adamw, 17:06:06)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 17:06:06)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 17:06:06)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 17:06:08)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 17:06:08)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
17:06:10)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
17:06:12)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:06:14)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:06:18)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:06:20)
* kparal will secretarialize (adamw, 17:06:22)
* 4 Proposed Alpha Blockers, 2 Proposed Beta Blockers, 1 Proposed
Final Blocker, and 5 Proposed Alpha Freeze Exceptions (adamw,
17:06:58)
* 4 Accepted Alpha Blockers (adamw, 17:07:05)
* (1313098) liveinst does not work in Wayland (consolehelper) (adamw,
17:12:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313098 (adamw,
17:12:14)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 17:12:14)
* AGREED: 1313098 - AcceptedBlocker (Alpha) - as the bits currently
stand, this is a clear blocker. switching the lives back to X (as
will apparently happen) would be an acceptable resolution (adamw,
17:16:19)
* (1313957) anaconda prefers i686 PAE kernel to x86_64 for x86_64
install if it's available (adamw, 17:17:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313957 (adamw,
17:17:06)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:17:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313949 is coming
up next, that's the bug for pungi including the i686 kernels in the
trees (adamw, 17:17:29)
* we will return to this bug and its companion in a minute, when
dgilmore is available (adamw, 17:23:34)
* (1313085) Name resolution fails (resolv.conf is a broken systemd
symlink) on livemedia-creator live image (adamw, 17:23:39)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313085 (adamw,
17:23:39)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (adamw, 17:23:39)
* AGREED: 1313085 - AcceptedBlocker - clear violation of "It must be
possible to run the default web browser and a terminal application
from all release-blocking desktop environments." (footnotes) and any
other network-related criterion for both KDE and Workstation lives
(adamw, 17:28:53)
* moving onto Beta blockers for now, will still circle back to
remaining Alpha blockers when we have dgilmore (adamw, 17:30:23)
* (1314230) libvirt fails with undefined symbol (adamw, 17:30:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1314230 (adamw,
17:30:41)
* Proposed Blocker, libvirt, NEW (adamw, 17:30:41)
* AGREED: 1314230 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - as described this sounds
like a clear violation of Beta criterion "The release must be able
host virtual guest instances of the same release." (with footnote
describing the supported virt stack, including libvirt) (adamw,
17:34:19)
* circling back to Alpha blockers now (adamw, 17:34:26)
* (1313957) anaconda prefers i686 PAE kernel to x86_64 for x86_64
install if it's available (adamw, 17:34:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313957 (adamw,
17:34:33)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:34:33)
* SOOTHING LIGHT CLASSICAL MUSIC (adamw, 17:45:57)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1315434 (adamw, 17:50:05)
* (1315434) Fedora 24 x86_64 network installs get i686 kernel and fail
to boot (adamw, 17:50:37)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1315434 (adamw,
17:50:43)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 17:50:50)
* AGREED: 1315434 - AcceptedBlocker - whichever underlying bug we
decide to fix, this is clearly an Alpha blocker as it prevents
installed system boot after an x86_64 network install (adamw,
17:52:15)
* (1313957) anaconda prefers i686 PAE kernel to x86_64 for x86_64
install if it's available (adamw, 17:52:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313957 (adamw,
17:52:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:52:31)
* AGREED: we will drop the blocker nomination here as it has been
superseded by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1315434
(adamw, 17:54:05)
* (1313949) pungi includes i686 kernels in x86_64 trees (adamw,
17:54:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313949 (adamw,
17:54:13)
* Proposed Blocker, pungi, NEW (adamw, 17:54:13)
* AGREED: we will drop the blocker nomination here as it has been
superseded by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1315434
(adamw, 17:54:21)
* OK, let's get back to Beta blockers (adamw, 17:54:40)
* (1293055) Black screen after logout (adamw, 17:54:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1293055 (adamw,
17:54:50)
* Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:54:50)
* AGREED: 1293055 - punt (delay decision) - we still don't have
sufficient info to make a decision here. we will make a decision
next week; if there is not sufficient indication by that time that
this issue clearly affects a clean F24 KDE install, it will likely
be rejected as a blocker (adamw, 18:07:34)
* that's all the Beta blockers, onto final (adamw, 18:07:46)
* (1276251) SELinux is preventing spice-vdagentd from 'getattr' accesses
on the filesystem /sys/fs/cgroup. (adamw, 18:07:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1276251 (adamw,
18:07:57)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, NEW (adamw, 18:07:57)
* AGREED: 1276251 - AcceptedBlocker - clear violation of "There must
be no SELinux denial notifications or crash notifications on boot of
or during installation from a release-blocking live image, or at
first login after a default install of a release-blocking desktop."
(adamw, 18:10:32)
* that's all the proposed blockers: as we're freezing this week, let's
go to proposed Alpha freeze exceptions (adamw, 18:10:56)
* (1298126) Devel subpackage of kernel should require versioned main
package (kernel-devel >> kernel) (adamw, 18:11:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1298126 (adamw,
18:11:09)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, dnf, NEW (adamw, 18:11:10)
* AGREED: 1298126 - RejectedFreezeException (Alpha) - there doesn't
seem to be anything here which would actually be helped by a freeze
exception. It can be re-proposed with a clearer justification.
(adamw, 18:17:49)
* (1307633) icu: Many essential codes are missing in i386, such as
almost all international latin encodings (adamw, 18:17:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1307633 (adamw,
18:18:00)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, icu, NEW (adamw, 18:18:00)
* AGREED: 1307633 - punt (delay decision) - everyone on the bug seems
to be in agreement that something is wrong, but it is not obvious to
us idiots exactly what the practical consequence of this is, so we
cannot make a decision. we will request a more understandable
summary of the practical impact of the bug and revisit this at the
next meeting (adamw, 18:25:52)
* (1299210) No initial-setup on Fedora Rawhide 20160115 (qemu-kvm)
(adamw, 18:26:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1299210 (adamw,
18:26:03)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, initial-setup, MODIFIED (adamw,
18:26:04)
* AGREED: 1299210 - close bug - per bug discussion it seems the issue
filed here is fixed, we think the bug should be closed. if other
initial-setup issues persist, they should be filed separately and
nominated as blockers or freeze exceptions as appropriate (adamw,
18:29:42)
* (1312675) Please disable fatal warnings in dbus user session, dbus
must guess about Qt5 applications (adamw, 18:29:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1312675 (adamw,
18:29:58)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, qt5-qtbase, NEW (adamw, 18:29:58)
* AGREED: 1312675 - RejectedFreezeException - for now this is rejected
as there is not yet a clear indication that this causes practical
issues in a context that would be affected by an FE (e.g. use of the
KDE live image). it can be reproposed if such an impact is
demonstrated (adamw, 18:35:43)
* (1302153) f24 rawhide rendering of sugar-desktop is missing icons and
shows bad rendering of desktop (adamw, 18:35:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1302153 (adamw,
18:35:52)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar-toolkit-gtk3, NEW (adamw,
18:35:52)
* AGREED: 1302153 - AcceptedFreezeException - Sugar desktop rendering
is clearly incorrect and this affects the SoaS live, thus merits a
freeze exception (cannot be fixed with update) (adamw, 18:42:44)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:43:57)
* Alpha blockers are mostly being taken care of, the big issues will
be the i686 kernel on x86_64 install issue and the live image
network issue (adamw, 18:44:15)
* ACTION: adamw to send out a blocker status mail (adamw, 18:44:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1303334 looks to
be the current bug (adamw, 18:45:26)
Meeting ended at 18:54:41 UTC.
Action Items
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* adamw to send out a blocker status mail
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to send out a blocker status mail
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (224)
* kparal (57)
* kalev (39)
* lupinix (30)
* handsome_pirate (24)
* dgilmore (20)
* pschindl (8)
* RaphGro (6)
* zodbot (5)
* maxamillion (5)
* rdieter_work (4)
* pwhalen (3)
* mclasen___ (2)
* tflink (2)
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