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Renault's meeting titled "Fedora-fr" ended in #fedora-meeting-1

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============================ #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr ============================ Meeting started by Renault at 18:40:23 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-05-29/fedora-fr.2... . Meeting summary --------------- * Association Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 18:40:49) * Fedora-fr.org (Renault, 18:42:27) * Marketing (Renault, 18:43:22) * Documentation (Renault, 18:47:22) * Pour les rédacteurs / relecteurs de la documentation, merci de répondre au sondage : https://framadate.org/T7w4OgFQHMPbBoIQ et envoyez vos retours sur la liste, merci (Renault, 18:48:40) * Traduction (Renault, 18:49:51) * Projet Fedora (Renault, 18:52:44) * F26 Beta a été décalée d'une semaine, verdict final ce jeudi (Renault, 18:53:08) * Rencontres Fedora 26 (Renault, 18:54:38) * Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Renault, 18:57:30) * Discussions Générales (Renault, 19:01:21) * le stand pour les RMLL (en semaine) a été accepté (Renault, 19:01:35) * LINK: http://jm2l.linux-azur.org/ (Renault, 19:09:17) Meeting ended at 19:10:47 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Renault (52) * zodbot (10) * misc (5) * Nicosss (5) * kwizart (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-05-29/fedora-fr.2... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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mvollmer's meeting titled "meeting" ended in #cockpit

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================= #cockpit: meeting ================= Meeting started by mvollmer at 13:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2017-05-29/meeting.2017-05-29-1... . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda (mvollmer, 13:03:09) * Server Applications update (mvollmer, 13:05:51) * libvirt (mvollmer, 13:24:57) * Any other business (mvollmer, 13:42:43) Meeting ended at 13:44:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mvollmer (47) * petervo (43) * zodbot (9) * pitti (8) * dperpeet (5) * mlibra (3) * garrett (1) * larsu (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2017-05-29/meeting.2017-05-29-1... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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Fedora Latam Meeting Minutes 2017-05-27

by Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-27/fedora_lata... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-27/fedora_lata... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-27/fedora_lata...

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alexove's meeting titled "Fedora Latam Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting-2

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======================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Fedora Latam Meeting ======================================= Meeting started by alexove at 23:08:30 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-27/fedora_lata... . Meeting summary --------------- * rollcall (alexove, 23:09:08) * openfloor (alexove, 23:21:24) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=Meeting (alexove, 23:26:36) * ticket 377 (alexove, 23:27:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/377 (alexove, 23:28:05) * ACTION: alexove will close the ticket 377 (alexove, 23:34:53) * ticket 384 (alexove, 23:35:32) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/384 (alexove, 23:35:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/406 (alexove, 23:36:02) * ACTION: alexove will close ticket 384 (alexove, 23:38:04) * Ticket 390 (alexove, 23:38:28) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/390 (alexove, 23:38:37) * Ticket 402 (alexove, 23:42:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/402 (alexove, 23:42:24) * Ticket 406 (alexove, 23:59:13) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/406 (alexove, 23:59:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_latam (alexove, 00:04:05) * Ticket 407 (alexove, 00:15:46) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/407 (alexove, 00:15:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017 (alexove, 00:19:02) * 408 (alexove, 00:38:32) * LINK: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/408 (alexove, 00:38:36) * tickets 408, 409, 410, 411, 412 (alexove, 00:48:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Conecit:tingo_maria_2017 (alexove, 00:54:01) * AGREED: tickets 408,409,410,411,412 approved (4,0,0) (alexove, 01:04:13) * openfloor (again) (alexove, 01:04:26) Meeting ended at 01:05:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alexove will close the ticket 377 * alexove will close ticket 384 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alexove * alexove will close the ticket 377 * alexove will close ticket 384 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alexove (127) * juancarloslin (39) * x3mboy (37) * itamarjp (23) * zodbot (12) * porfiriopaiz (6) * alyaj2a (3) * douglax (2) * mayorga (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-27/fedora_lata... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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kevin's meeting titled "FESCO (2017-05-26)" ended in #fedora-meeting

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=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-05-26) =================================== Meeting started by nirik at 16:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-26/fesco.2017-05... . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 16:00:00) * #1708 - F27 System Wide Change: Arbitrary Branching (nirik, 16:12:15) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1708 (nirik, 16:12:16) * devel-announce post will go out soon with the proposed plan and timeline (nirik, 16:38:58) * will revisit next week (nirik, 16:39:13) * Next week chair (nirik, 16:39:34) * jforbes to chair next week (nirik, 16:40:42) * Open Floor (nirik, 16:40:46) Meeting ended at 16:52:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (56) * dgilmore (39) * threebean (28) * sgallagh (20) * mprahl (14) * zodbot (10) * jforbes (7) * jwb (2) * kalev (0) * Rathann (0) * jsmith (0) * maxamillion (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-26/fesco.2017-05... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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nitzmahone's meeting titled "Windows Working Group" ended in #ansible-meeting

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======================================= #ansible-meeting: Windows Working Group ======================================= Meeting started by nitzmahone at 16:30:23 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2017-05-26/windows_work... . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda at https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/153 (nitzmahone, 16:30:42) Meeting ended at 16:37:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nitzmahone (14) * jhawkesworth (7) * zodbot (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2017-05-26/windows_work... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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zsun's meeting titled "FZUG" ended in #fedora-zh

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================ #fedora-zh: FZUG ================ Meeting started by zsun at 13:02:20 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2017-05-26/fzug.2017-05-26-13... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (zsun, 13:02:26) * LinuxCon (zsun, 13:09:26) * ACTION: zsun figure out expenses for community meetup and file a ticket to request for budget (zsun, 13:46:54) * Open Floor (zsun, 13:56:52) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/ (lch[m], 14:00:40) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/wtop.git/ (lch[m], 14:03:28) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/wtop.git/tree/wtop.spec (lch[m], 14:03:42) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/wtop/ (zsun, 14:05:36) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983959 (lch[m], 14:06:48) Meeting ended at 14:07:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ * zsun figure out expenses for community meetup and file a ticket to request for budget Action Items, by person ----------------------- * zsun * zsun figure out expenses for community meetup and file a ticket to request for budget * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * zsun (80) * gbraad_ (50) * lch[m] (17) * zodbot (9) * BadGirl (7) * teleboto (5) * kaio (3) * bexelbie (1) * gbraad (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2017-05-26/fzug.2017-05-26-13... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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Editorial board recap 2017-May-25

by Paul W. Frields

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-25/magazine.2017... Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-25/magazine.2017... Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-25/magazine.2017... * * * ========================================= #fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board ========================================= Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:25 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-25/magazine.2017... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 21:00:30) * Last week in review (stickster, 21:03:16) * last week was 51K views, up over previous week's 46K views (stickster, 21:05:09) * IDEA: get through Pending Review and Drafts, then talk a bit about getting more contribution in (stickster, 21:12:05) * Pending Review (stickster, 21:12:35) * --- Certbot --- (stickster, 21:13:02) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17556&preview=1&_ppp=408dab9cb5 (stickster, 21:13:03) * ACTION: ryanlerch do image and push Certbot article 0800 UTC 2017-05-26 (stickster, 21:18:29) * Drafts (stickster, 21:18:36) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=... (stickster, 21:20:32) * --- F26 Beta --- (stickster, 21:21:08) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17583&preview=1&_ppp=a4b8e59a39 (stickster, 21:21:10) * --- RasPi --- (stickster, 21:22:27) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17440&preview=1&_ppp=59cfb58232 (stickster, 21:22:30) * ACTION: stickster write to list to explain next actions (stickster, 21:27:52) * --- Flock update --- (stickster, 21:28:15) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=17498&action=edit (stickster, 21:28:18) * ACTION: stickster finish article and set up for publication no later than Monday 2017-05-29 (stickster, 21:30:05) * ACTION: ryanlerch do image for Flock article (stickster, 21:30:12) * Nothing else has been touched in several weeks (stickster, 21:31:53) * AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri May 26 - Certbot; Mon May 29 - Flock; Wed May 31 - MacBook; Fri Jun 2 - either gTile or HDYF (stickster, 21:40:15) * LINK: https://twitter.com/fedora/status/867775770801786880 (ryanlerch, 21:42:23) * LINK: https://twitter.com/fedora/status/867362810208145408 (ryanlerch, 21:43:00) * MOAR CONTRIBUTORS (stickster, 21:47:03) * ACTION: cprofitt send "Ask F-Mag" idea to the list (stickster, 21:55:32) * ACTION: ryanlerch take low-hanging fruit series idea to the list (stickster, 21:55:44) * ACTION: stickster take pamphlet idea to the list (stickster, 21:56:09) Meeting ended at 21:59:44 UTC. Action Items ------------ * ryanlerch do image and push Certbot article 0800 UTC 2017-05-26 * stickster write to list to explain next actions * stickster finish article and set up for publication no later than Monday 2017-05-29 * ryanlerch do image for Flock article * cprofitt send "Ask F-Mag" idea to the list * ryanlerch take low-hanging fruit series idea to the list * stickster take pamphlet idea to the list Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cprofitt * cprofitt send "Ask F-Mag" idea to the list * ryanlerch * ryanlerch do image and push Certbot article 0800 UTC 2017-05-26 * ryanlerch do image for Flock article * ryanlerch take low-hanging fruit series idea to the list * stickster * stickster write to list to explain next actions * stickster finish article and set up for publication no later than Monday 2017-05-29 * stickster take pamphlet idea to the list * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (136) * ryanlerch (64) * cprofitt (27) * zodbot (13) * jhogarth (13) * jwf (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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pfrields's meeting titled "Magazine editorial board" ended in #fedora-meeting

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========================================= #fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board ========================================= Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:25 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-25/magazine.2017... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 21:00:30) * Last week in review (stickster, 21:03:16) * last week was 51K views, up over previous week's 46K views (stickster, 21:05:09) * IDEA: get through Pending Review and Drafts, then talk a bit about getting more contribution in (stickster, 21:12:05) * Pending Review (stickster, 21:12:35) * --- Certbot --- (stickster, 21:13:02) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17556&preview=1&_ppp=408dab9cb5 (stickster, 21:13:03) * ACTION: ryanlerch do image and push Certbot article 0800 UTC 2017-05-26 (stickster, 21:18:29) * Drafts (stickster, 21:18:36) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=... (stickster, 21:20:32) * --- F26 Beta --- (stickster, 21:21:08) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17583&preview=1&_ppp=a4b8e59a39 (stickster, 21:21:10) * --- RasPi --- (stickster, 21:22:27) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=17440&preview=1&_ppp=59cfb58232 (stickster, 21:22:30) * ACTION: stickster write to list to explain next actions (stickster, 21:27:52) * --- Flock update --- (stickster, 21:28:15) * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=17498&action=edit (stickster, 21:28:18) * ACTION: stickster finish article and set up for publication no later than Monday 2017-05-29 (stickster, 21:30:05) * ACTION: ryanlerch do image for Flock article (stickster, 21:30:12) * Nothing else has been touched in several weeks (stickster, 21:31:53) * AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri May 26 - Certbot; Mon May 29 - Flock; Wed May 31 - MacBook; Fri Jun 2 - either gTile or HDYF (stickster, 21:40:15) * LINK: https://twitter.com/fedora/status/867775770801786880 (ryanlerch, 21:42:23) * LINK: https://twitter.com/fedora/status/867362810208145408 (ryanlerch, 21:43:00) * MOAR CONTRIBUTORS (stickster, 21:47:03) * ACTION: cprofitt send "Ask F-Mag" idea to the list (stickster, 21:55:32) * ACTION: ryanlerch take low-hanging fruit series idea to the list (stickster, 21:55:44) * ACTION: stickster take pamphlet idea to the list (stickster, 21:56:09) Meeting ended at 21:59:44 UTC. Action Items ------------ * ryanlerch do image and push Certbot article 0800 UTC 2017-05-26 * stickster write to list to explain next actions * stickster finish article and set up for publication no later than Monday 2017-05-29 * ryanlerch do image for Flock article * cprofitt send "Ask F-Mag" idea to the list * ryanlerch take low-hanging fruit series idea to the list * stickster take pamphlet idea to the list Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cprofitt * cprofitt send "Ask F-Mag" idea to the list * ryanlerch * ryanlerch do image and push Certbot article 0800 UTC 2017-05-26 * ryanlerch do image for Flock article * ryanlerch take low-hanging fruit series idea to the list * stickster * stickster write to list to explain next actions * stickster finish article and set up for publication no later than Monday 2017-05-29 * stickster take pamphlet idea to the list * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (136) * ryanlerch (64) * cprofitt (27) * zodbot (13) * jhogarth (13) * jwf (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-05-25/magazine.2017... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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jkurik's meeting titled "F26 Beta Readiness Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting-2

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============================================= #fedora-meeting-2: F26 Beta Readiness Meeting ============================================= Meeting started by jkurik at 19:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-25/f26-beta-re... . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (jkurik, 19:00:56) * Purpose of this meeting (jkurik, 19:02:30) * Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated. (jkurik, 19:02:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings (jkurik, 19:02:41) * Current status (jkurik, 19:02:48) * Fedora 26 Beta is No-Go (jkurik, 19:02:58) * The next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, June 1st (jkurik, 19:03:46) * Design (jkurik, 19:04:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1441844 (jkurik, 19:08:10) * There are some issues with background overlay plugin for the logo. These are not considered as blockers for Beta release however might affect Final release if not solved. (jkurik, 19:10:22) * The bug 1441844 already have AcceptedFreezeException to get into the F26 Beta RC compose. (jkurik, 19:11:34) * ACTION: mizmo to describe details of these issues in the refferenced bug (jkurik, 19:12:00) * Infrastructure (jkurik, 19:12:34) * Infrastructure team is experiencing ongoing slowdown in storage thats making things slower than normal. People from the team are already looking into the issue. (jkurik, 19:14:21) * This is not considered as a blocking issue for the F26 Beta (jkurik, 19:14:41) * Ambassadors (jkurik, 19:15:07) * Ambassadors are up to date; there are no blocking issues from the ambassadors side. (jkurik, 19:17:09) * Documentation (jkurik, 19:17:39) * Branching and generation of POT files is delayed, however these issues are not considered as blockers for Beta release. These issues will concern for Final release if not fixed. (jkurik, 19:19:48) * FESCo (jkurik, 19:22:42) * There are no blocking issues FESCo is aware of. (jkurik, 19:24:54) * There are concerns about https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1707 - we need to watch this, however this is not considered as a blocker for Beta atm. (jkurik, 19:28:30) * Marketing (jkurik, 19:29:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F26_Beta_release_announcement (jkurik, 19:29:20) * The Marketing is working on Beta Release announcement. There are no know issues that can be considered as blockers. (jkurik, 19:31:18) * The Beta Release announcement is going to be publised in as an article Fedora Magazine. A help to review it is appreciated. (jkurik, 19:32:22) * Fedora Engineering Manager (jkurik, 19:32:52) * QA (jkurik, 19:37:34) * QA is ready to test F26 Beta RC compose once it is ready. Test coverage on nightlies is looking decent at a glance. (jkurik, 19:39:58) * Release Engineering (jkurik, 19:40:35) * Other than no RC Release Engineering dont have exactly anything else blocking. (jkurik, 19:42:35) * Websites (jkurik, 19:43:02) * Websites are ready for the F26 Beta release, no issues so far (jkurik, 19:44:45) * Translations (jkurik, 19:45:21) * Translation team is fine with the F26 Beta release (jkurik, 19:46:02) * ACTION: jkurik to help the Translation team with takeover of noriko’s work (jkurik, 19:46:04) * CommOps (jkurik, 19:47:07) * Community blog publishing issues are being worked on, however there are no blockers. (jkurik, 19:49:17) * Fedora Project Leader (jkurik, 19:49:52) * FPL is good to go; will have even better annoucnements ready for after a week's slip, so that's not all bad (jkurik, 19:51:33) * Open floor (jkurik, 19:51:58) Meeting ended at 19:57:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mizmo to describe details of these issues in the refferenced bug * jkurik to help the Translation team with takeover of noriko’s work Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jkurik * jkurik to help the Translation team with takeover of noriko’s work * mizmo * mizmo to describe details of these issues in the refferenced bug * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jkurik (112) * zodbot (22) * mizmo (21) * adamw (19) * bexelbie[m] (18) * veon (15) * x3mboy (13) * nirik (12) * sgallagh (6) * jwb (5) * roshi (5) * jonatoni (4) * mailga (3) * mboddu (2) * mattdm (1) * dgilmore (1) * jflory7 (0) * stickster (0) * paragan (0) * bexelbie (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-05-25/f26-beta-re... -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorap...

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